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Indivisible: Lab Zero's Action-RPG! (General Discussion)

Well given the fact that there's fans helping with the Skullgirls' translations, I'm sure fans will help out here too.
Although I'm sure there's significantly more text....
 
I don't think they've said anything about what lagauges the finished game will be in? They were only talking about the indiegogo page.
 
The game needs to be in Latin. That way we can all be miserable together.
 
Indivisibilis IndeIreIre expeditionis paginae translatio

don't worry I just used google translate and an online dictionary of declensions
 
For real why not a polish translation
Lab Zero Games prezentuje
Podróż Ajny ku odkryciu
Całkowicie nowa przygoda RPG akcji!
NIEPODZIELNA
Grywalny prototyp i kampania Indiegogo już wkrótce

 
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I hate to be that guy but lurn english skrubz

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English isn't a global language... Every area has it's own. It's rude af to demand that..
 
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English isn't a global language...

As much as I understand, it's pretty damn close to being global and knowing it is becoming almost as expected as knowing basic math.

Though that's coming from a Polish guy who loved every minute of learning english and seeing just how superior he was in it compared to his classmates.

So I might be a tiny-teensy bit biased.
 
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Learning a second language envolves time, patience and some sort of dedication.

Is not like learning basic math, at all. And while i understand the importance of english, i always hate this speech of: you need to learn english because reasons.

When i was a kid, i suffered because i couldn't understand the pokemon games i would play, and i would research walktroughs in my language, and they weren't that good.
 
Damnit kit I thought you attached the screencap of you getting the early proto
 
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Damnit kit I thought you attached the screencap of you getting the early proto
Wouldn't that be som'in... then I wouldn't have to wait the whole day to download the game on Friday lol

On the subject:
Yeah, I know English is taught in many places, but it's also vise versa (I learned Japanese when I was in an American school in Japan), but thing is, not everyone can, or has the ability too, learn the Language. Hell, English is the toughest to learn. Some are better off just Sticking with their own language.

I really need to get back into Japanese classes. Rather miss it, and need to relearn it for games I've always wanted to play from Japan x,x
 
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I'll be honest - the PT localization of SG didn't even break even, which is why I hadn't really considered PT this time around.

After all, it's an RPG so there's going to be a LOT more text.

505 is currently down with the languages we're talking about in the campaign, and I'll see if we can get them to research if the PT loc is worth doing. Because, ultimately, they are the ones paying for all of this stuff.
 
English is considered to be difficult to learn because it draws upon a ton of other languages and has some of the least-consistent rules for grammar and pronunciation of any language.
Hey, at least we're not wasting time deciding if the chair is male or female.
 
and is not like you need to use this-> é, á, í, ó, ú, ã, â, etc. =P

But seriously, stuff like do, did, were, was, is, am, will, etc are very confusing... =P
 
English is considered to be difficult to learn because it draws upon a ton of other languages and has some of the least-consistent rules for grammar and pronunciation of any language.
By whom? How many other languages have those people tried to learn?.?
In the first place language difficulty is a murky field, but I have never really seen anyone (other than a few native speakers) claim that English is particularly hard in any capacity;
Both from my personal experience and that of a variety of other people from a bunch of different countries, the general consensus is much closer to the exact opposite - with English ranking amongst the top of the easiest possible languages to pick up.
.. Of course this could have many reasons unrelated to the raw difficulty of English itself (eg it is potentially easier to pick up for Germans than other languages due to better teachers, earlier education, and many words or even idioms being taken straight from English - which creates a sense of familiarity), but it would still leave English as comparably easy to learn.

Just looking at some basic grammar rules, I fail to see how English would ever count as more complex than .. basically any other European language;
and while it is grammatically rather simple, a language such as Mandarin Chinese obviously has its own share of hurdles.

Every country (ok, only ones which have been in contact with other countries at some point) has its language massively influenced by other languages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denglisch
 
Yes, let's continue to decide which language is the worst. It's a truly riveting and worthwhile discussion in this context.

Apologies if this has been answered previously, but are Lab Zero retaining the rights to this IP even though you're running with a publisher again?
 
Yes, let's continue to decide which language is the worst. It's a truly riveting and worthwhile discussion in this context.

Apologies if this has been answered previously, but are Lab Zero retaining the rights to this IP even though you're running with a publisher again?

I remember them saying that they own the Indvisble IP. I think it was either said in this fourm or on the Twitter. Maybe both. Although I might be remembering wrong.
 
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I hate to be that guy but lurn english skrubz
Yeah. Tell this to people who already learned English as 2nd language and came to this English-speaking forum >_>
Also English is pretty easy.
 
Its funny this changed to the language thread
 
It's not too much to ask to talk about Indivisible, is it?

I don't think that call out is in your favor, just for the record.
 
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English is considered to be difficult to learn because it draws upon a ton of other languages and has some of the least-consistent rules for grammar and pronunciation of any language.
Aka it's the most bullshit love-craftian thing on this earth.
I learned this while I was making comparison with English and Japanese grammar.
 
I believe Peter commented that Lab Zero did, in fact, own this IP, but I can't for the life of me remember where.
 
I believe Peter commented that Lab Zero did, in fact, own this IP, but I can't for the life of me remember where.

I guess I'll get into this...

We don't own the IP outright. The deal is pretty good from the get-go, but it gets better the more we raise. There are three major IGG dollar milestones in our contract: two where the back-end revenue increases, and a third on where the IP goes to us.

I think going into the exact numbers is probably a bit much, but that's the general gist of our contract with 505: if we hit our goal and end up between the IP number, 505 owns the IP and we have right of first refusal on a developing a sequel, etc. If we go above that number, we own the IP and 505 has right of first refusal on publishing a sequel.

There are some other wrinkles that could also result in us getting the IP back even if we are funded, too, but I won't get into those.


By whom? How many other languages have those people tried to learn?

I think it was a linguisitcs class and Japanese class where the teachers told us that.

And I don't think your case is really indicative - you're coming from an advanced western country that already has a high percentage of English speakers. When I was there for Gamescom, I was surprised how pretty much everyone knew English. And there is ample access to English media. And getting to a place where English is natively spoken is much easier than, say, from anywhere in Asia. And let's definitely not forget David Hasselhoff.

So I feel like Germany is one or two steps away from immersion, just be default.

Also, English does draw a fair amount on German. So there is probably some overlap there that makes it easier for Germans and other Europeans, too.

Pronunciation does impact learning and retention, too. Japanese people tend to have a harder time learning other languages because Japanese has the fewest number of phonemes of any language in the world, tied with Spanish. Japanese students pretty much take English their entire student career and can barely string a sentence together after all of that.

Meanwhile, English is easier to pronounce than German... with the possible exception of Vs and Ws, if my HS exchange student friend was any indication.

So just imagine you're in bumfuck Japan, and have never heard English outside of hilariously dubbed anime white people. The grammar is basically 100% the opposite of how you normally think, you can barely pronounce the words, and your teacher doesn't actually know it and is just reading the katakana because they don't have access to swarthy Irish imports.
 
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In the battle trailer it's written at the end "(c) Lab Zero Inc. All Rights Reserved".

Doesn't that mean they own the IP?

EDIT: Ravi ninjad me.
 
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In the battle trailer it's written at the end "(c) Lab Zero Inc. All Rights Reserved".
Doesn't that mean they own the IP?
We own it now, because the game hasn't been funded yet. And I think if it fails we own it then too.
 
In the battle trailer it's written at the end "(c) Lab Zero Inc. All Rights Reserved".

Doesn't that mean they own the IP?.


We own it now, because the game hasn't been funded yet. And I think if it fails we own it then too.

Correct.

It's ours until it's funded and 505 gives us their contribution, which is about 50% higher than what we need to raise including the prototype development costs.

That's why the copyright is currently listed with us.
 
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Correct.

It's ours until it's funded and 505 gives us their contribution, or if we exceed that dollar amount.
Oh, so in other words, you will sign agreement with 505 only after the end of the campaign?

Also from your post on 505 site I understood that 505 will double the amount you get through backers. Is it right or did I get it wrong?
Here's the quote:
Ravidrath said:
If we meet or exceed our goal, 505 will contribute the remaining development budget, and full production will begin in earnest.

So, up until the initial goal, 505 Games will effectively be matching your contributions. And the more money the Indiegogo campaign raises, the better the game gets, and the better the deal is for Lab Zero.
 
Oh, so in other words, you will sign agreement with 505 only after the end of the campaign?

Also from your post on 505 site I understood that 505 will double the amount you get through backers. Is it right or did I get it wrong?
Here's the quote:

The agreement is signed, just nothing kicks in until we hit our goal. Well, beyond them funding the prototype, that is.

If we were to somehow land exactly on our goal, your contribution to the development budget is effectively doubled-and-then-some by 505. But their contribution is fixed, so anything after that for stretch goals is not matched.

It's a complicated-ish deal, but it's very progressive. I really don't think anything like this has been done before, and it's really a testament to 505's management that they were open to it at all.

That, and we paid a lot for the best lawyer in the industry.
 
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If we were to somehow land exactly on our goal, your contribution to the development budget is effectively doubled-and-then-some by 505. But their contribution is fixed, so anything after that for stretch goals is not matched.
Oh. So if goal is $X, and extra IGG money is $Y, then your toral budget would be $X + $Y + $(~X from 505)?