how me play the bonelady fight game?

Playing as Fukua is rewarding, and I seriously enjoy it, but it was just such a pain for me leaping into a game when the person I usually play against is miles ahead of me in skill level. So imagine my absolute glee when other friends get the game and they're new! Sort of like me!

So I played with them, and I wasn't getting smashed immediately like a small ant. That's when I really noticed things started to pick up for me. I was learning with others, I had a chance to try things out--sure, my friend is rad and playing with him is usually, but it was disheartening to constantly lose without feeling like I ever improved.

It was originally in one of the lobbies with my other newbie friends that I threw together a sloppy combo sort of thing. Ever since then, I've refined it and reworked it to something that looks like it could actually be useful rather than being j.HK spam thrown in the middle of a cluster of controller slapping and screaming.


Instead of Baby's First Button Mash, I now know it warmly as Baby's First Combo. Using it against my more experienced friend proved ... well, fruitful! Hell, I won 2 matches! ... out of how many? Irrelevant (17, shut up). I really do feel like I'm improving. I'd like a little recognition from said friend, who would rather get all salty and mad at me when I win, rather than going "hey look at you, doing some big girl combos there!"

But, there are things I know I need to get better at. A lot better at.

Defense - Ill-timed blocks, incorrect block types ... I need to learn to watch out for those sneaky little attacks that throw me straight into a hellish array of death and tears.

Actually DO my combos - I panic. I hit a move and go "YEAH IT HIT". Then I forget to continue hitting. I get annihilated. I'm getting better at it, though, because I'm starting to really memorise what I need to do.

B8ED - I need to stop being baited into stuff. I need to get it in my head that oh my god, Parasoul is throwing that Egret out because the player wants me to run towards them so I shouldn't run, throw vomit goop balls instead or just watch out for an attack! rather than being like oh man an Egret! Don't run! WHY ARE YOU RUNNING FUKUA? WHY. STOP IT. NO! WHY.

Git Gud - Long term goals, amiright?

EDIT: need to get a video of me in game, in an actual fight hohoho.

Colossi said:

Most of the things you listed are things you learn from playing. You'll eventually learn how to confirm, how to defend yourself, how to bait and avoid being baited and this all will lead to your long term goal.

One thing you should know, tho, is that every hit that you perform in a combo scales its damage. This means that the more hits you do in the beginning of a combo, the less damage it'll deal.
The idea here is to use powerful moves with low amount of hits on the beginning of the combo and use multihits at the end to get maximum damage. The scaling is capped at 15 hits. After this, it won't scale anymore, so multihit as you will.

Good luck.

Ah, thank you!
I always had a problem understanding scaling, so having it explained that way really helps.
Man, I hate the saying practice makes perfect but I know it's true in regard to so many things.

gllt said:

I think you're using too many multihit moves early in your Fukua combo which is driving the damage down hard. The cMK at the start is fine because it's a good confirm, but you could do something like

cLK cMK sHP jHK cLK sMK sHP jHP jHK etc you can eliminate a lot of multihits from that series.
Oh, and

cLK cMK sHP jHK cLK sMK sHP jHK jHP (the jHK will trigger IPS, the jHP will help you dodge it) then don't move/duck and if they burst, jump and punish with jHK into a full combo

if they don't burst, I usually do a low/throw mixup

I'll give that combo a shot--the multihits were mainly there because I couldn't figure out a way to jam all that stuff in without messing up and failing miserably. Nice to have some help figuring a way around the mess of jabbing and punting.

I've gotten the hang of the first combo, @gllt, and I'm practising to improve how quickly I can pull it off!
But I'm having trouble timing when to dash-run on the second one. Is there a specific point that I should start moving forwards? I presume it's just after they bounce off the "wall".

This is an attempt at a combo. My mum would be so proud.


I realise I slipped up by putting in LP cLP. I'm also having a liiiittle bit of trouble with that section anyway. Sometimes, they're too far away for me to get into cMK and sometimes I just goof it up entirely. Gotta keep working on it, though, and figuring out when to land the punches so people don't bounce away from me.

gllt said:

It took me a while to learn when to run after LVL 3 too, I sometimes still goof it, just gotta find the timing on your own! I can't quite explain it..

I think, for me, it's kinda just after they bounce off the wall. Definitely. It's a really thin line though, huh?

Colossi said:

One good thing to practice combos is putting the enemy to block after the first hit. You'll notice better where you're dropping and you can try to improve it. You may also find moves that don't connect in any way and you need to find a replacement.

Helping a lot with combos--helping to find timings, too, which is really what I need atm.

gllt said:

If you hold left or right in the moment after picking a stage, you will spawn in the respective corner. I usually pick training mode, hold left, walk my opponent to the chair/desk and hit select to save a state, and then practice my combo from there (for midscreens.) For corner combos, hold right on load, ta-dah! You're in the corner. Magic!

I remember the first time I did it, it was an accident. I was so confused.
Now I know how to recreate it. B)

Been fiddling around with Eliza in Beta for some reason, decided that I feel she and Fukua would make a decent-ish team if I took a shine to her. So far, I have this:


Fukua, I'm starting to feel confident enough in that I can develop and work on things in an experimental way. So! I need some help or just a guide to Eliza combos. What I know so far is kinda slapped together real quick. Not bad (?), but sloppy-ish.

A double post to simply say:


O~hohoho!

gllt said:

Here's an Eliza combo that works on everyone but Double IIRC

cLK cMK2 cHP2 jMP jHP adc (very slight delay, do it all as fast as possible first to see why, if you don't make the slight delay, no restand) jLK jMP jHP cLP2 cMK2 sHP2 LSpiral (this is a tight link you have to learn!) sLK cMK2 sHP2 HTwirl Slaughter

Here's one that works on everyone, Double included.

cLK cMK2 cHP2 Divekick IAD jMP jHP (gotta delay until this restands) cLP2 cMK2 sHP2 LTwirl sLK cMK2 sHP2 HTwirl Slaughter

I'll try and hook you up with some vids at some point.

Yeah, I think those videos are gonna be super helpful because the timing is something I'm struggling with a little bit. Once I get a visual idea of when to do it, I'm usually able to pick t up pretty quickly considering.

Ah, thanks a bunch dude!
I'll give these a real look tomorrow when it's not ... 2:40am.

It is no longer 2:30am, yesterday. It is 1am today.
@gllt, I sent a friend request to you on Steam--not sure if it went through or not. Hmm.