Diary of a Harmonica

Might as well keep some things sorta organized cus I keep forgetting shit.

General:
- PBGC into Not-DPs and their applications (into jump, into jab, etc)
- "Reversaling" on landing
- Reversaling on Incoming / after getting knocked down
- Incoming Mixups
- Calling assist without getting accidental normals without using macro buttons
- (More active?) defence that doesn't just get rolled over
- Gameplan against chars I can't zone / patient players (how to hit people who don't hang themselves?)
- Less obvious pressure with fewer stupid holes
- Keep shutting down stupid autopilot, try to actually notice what the opponent is doing
- Punishes on dumb things (Tags, whiffed moves, opponent comboing my assist right above me, etc)
- PB into Upback (4PP-7 to not be stuck in backdash for ages; Peacock can't do it QQ)
- Fix Upbacks on both the bad habit and the accidental ones (genius placement for this after the note above)
- Midscreen Assist kills (and punishes in general)
- Actually l2 punish bursts
- Practice blocking / countering reactable mixups to up consistency (headless rekka overhead etc)
- Punishes with s.LP/c.LP rather than LK

Parasoul:
- 2149K Tosses and their applications
- Keeping placed tear near me + Detonate usage
- Spacing with backdashes, l2use ground buttons that aren't c.MP
- Actually use Ground Tear toss with a brain rather than "L H look good here uuh what do I even use these tears for??" < j.HP with tears nearby!
- Check for Minifloat applications, on backjump even??
- Combo after Throw (Backthrow xx Toss!)
- Combo after Airthrow
- Corner Combo with s.HK cus cool
- Less obvious Burstbaits
- Setup after untechable j.HP beyond "Bike"
- Recognize airblocked j.LP>j.HP and go into xx L.Toss j.LP or something
- Confirm distance / airblocking opponent / what char they are for Pillar xx Bikes rather than doing it by 'feel'
- Combo after Sniper
- CH Combo
- Tearjumps

Bella:
- LnL into 360 instead of Dynamo
- Get a feel for cMP: It hits surprisingly often, so heyy. Maxrange cMP combos into sHP RS cLK cMP etc
- Get a feel for MGR-Range: When to MGR, when to cMP-MGR
- Get consistent on MGR followups

Fortune:
- All the combo things (combo after AirSuper, AirThrow, Throw)
- Learn to AA people by whatever means (jMP, L.Axekick, cMP, cHP, dashunder cLK/cLP, Fiber, Fiber into attackfromabove, jumpback jHK, etc)
- Any headless gameplan idea

Will add a lot more things later that I keep forgetting
And hopefully remove some of those things ever

### Combo Post

Fortune:

cLK

Low Airthrow

- Throw-Copter-Combo
- Corner Throw
- Airsuper (+ after Throw-Fiber-Airsuper)
- Everything Headless need to work on a lot
- CH Combo

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Cerebella:

cLK

MGR

Airthrow

360-Horns

Kanchou

Lv3

Notes for all:
Skip sHP xx Pummel if the opponent got happy birthday'd
Can end with Sweep xx Run after Dynamo if OTG not yet used up
In corner, end with Ram instead

- CH Combo?

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Parasoul:

cLK Midscreen

cLK Corner

cLK Happy Birthday

jLP-jHP Air-to-Air

Throw Midscreen

Throw Corner

Airthrow Midscreen

Airthrow Corner

- 4HK Combo?
- Lvl3 Combo?
- CH Combo?
- Combo with Sniper at the start?
- Combo without L.Egret for 6LP/2LK Resets after Egret in first chain?

IsaVulpes said:

- Tearjumps

2147LK, j.MK looks pretty great in training mode

IsaVulpes said:

- Get a team (Eliza pls??)

No Eliza, but I still think I got one. Woo~

Saving for later use, thanks @gllt @zeknife

Thanks to @gllt @zeknife @severine I got some Para-Pea Tagcombo stuff

Storing the stuff here so I don't forget it myself

cLK

Air-to-Air jLK-jHP

Airthrow

Throw
- I figure just bike into dash dash things 4HK Tag?

4HK
- Mhhhh

Other Combos:

Parasoul
- Freestyling atm, will figure something out at some point

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Cerebella:

cLK

MGR

Airthrow

360-Horns

Kanchou

Lv3
Note for all: Skip sHP xx Pummel if the opponent got happy birthday'd

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Peacock:

Main Route:

DHC into 360 (For Now)

Time 2 Update the starting post after ages

IsaVulpes said:

- 5HP + Dart H > Item drop H > plane bomb > repeat

Dropped Fukua but hated using Dart anyway

- PBGC into QCB moves

Screw learning, Beta did this for me!

- Combo into Fukua Tag

Dropped Fukua but have a combo into Peacock Tag which is kinda the cooler thing

- Find a palette that doesn't make you cry

LPMP looks okay for now

- Figure out reliability of Backthrow > Pillar + Combo after, else Backthrow > Bikes + Combo after

Backthrow > Toss is kinda easier..

- Punishes with s.LP/c.LP rather than LK

Moved to general

Fukua:
- Combo after BFF
- Combo after Armor Grab
- Combo after M.Shadow
- BFF timing on DHC after Bikes
- Get a feel for c.MP and c.HP and s.HP AA and when to use which
- Actually learn her butttttonnnns other than j.HK
- Combo into Parasoul Tag (c.HP bounce should do the trick, it did with Filia)
- Less obvious Burstbaits
- Setup after Airthrow
- CH Combo

Nyope
Only keeping this here in case I pick her up again, which hopefully doesn't happen

Not really good enough with Bella to know what I'm missing but some things were glaring so those are there

Properly test Peacock

sLP sMP sHK xx M.SoID
sLP sMK
- jMP ad jLP jMP
sHP xx M-L.George, Jump
- jMK jHP ad jLK
cLK sMP cHP xx H.SoID xx Argus

On Peacock; also remember to test Filia/Fukua on PC/Beta once that's a thing again

fenster said:

Here's a timestamp of the cHK thing that I think you were talking about btw

Aye I found it myself, but thanks!

IsaVulpes said:

MGR
- !! Combo doesn't work on PW, need2learn something different there

Combo does work on PW, what was I smoking..
Just a bit harder, but should still be feasible

Minidash cLP cHP is doable on everyone and easier, so I might learn that anyway

dragonos451 said:

I probably smoked the same thing you did. I just checked.

Are you trying to say it doesn't? Can't follow

Don't even need to dash, mgr c.lp c.mp c.hp works on everyone.

Yeah but that's an extra hit, wouldn't that reduce damage
Or do Meds increase it mhhhhh maybe they do

Just so I don't forget overnight, more tomorrow:

Airthrow jlk
Clp cmp chp
Jlpmash jhp
Clk cmk
Jmp jhk
Minidash smp shk (whiff) xx tag

Rather solid

Need to figure out a way to combo out of that when i still got the otg

Sigh

cLK sMK(1) sHP L.Rekka Rekka Slide
sLP cHP
- jHP ad jLK jHP
sMK sHK xx L.Fiber
- jLP jHP
cLK sMP sMK sHP xx H.Rekka Rekka Rekka

Yes maybe

Fortune v Filia

Fort
- cLK Range
- sHP Poke (easier to convert from, little risk in doing so, pressure on block with xx Fiber to stay in)
- Headless fun
- Doublejump
- Fiber Movement
- Rekka
- Meterbuild
- Overall more interesting

Fil
- cHP Poke (outranges Fort sHP + has 2f faster startup // actually only 1f faster or even 0, since shit hitbox start)
- Horizontal Speed (easier time chasing down ppl)
- sHP Antiair
- Ringlet
- Updo Assist
- Gregor DHC
- Superior Sweep

Mhh

Sticking with Fortune for now, just the more interesting/fun character

Have to figure out whether Para assist of choice is M or H Tearshot or Pillar
Also Copter vs M/H LnL, though I think I much prefer Copter here?

Updated 2nd post with Combos will keep updated

IsaVulpes said:

- Learn groundteching forwards, rather than always holding back while mashing a button

Doing this

- Remember to do more earlier resets

Doing this

- Midscreen Assist kills (and punishes in general)
- Actually l2 punish bursts
- Practice blocking / countering reactable mixups to up consistency (headless rekka overhead etc)
- Punishes with s.LP/c.LP rather than LK

Parasoul:
- Setup after untechable j.HP

Just Bike is an option

- Alternate Airstrings more

Lel doing this too much

- Standard combo without L.Egret, to actually benefit from my starter

Default combo doesnt have Egret anymore

E: Updated Bella Combo a bit

Mostly posting so I don't have to open this thread from Page 2

Oh yeah I need a satisfying gameplan against Big Fuck, especially if he is supported by some kind of make-moves-safeish-assist

Other notes
- Blockstring better, too susceptible to PBGC currently
- More erratic stuff on offence, rather than always cLK-cMK or jLK-Axekick fishing for the confirm, just cLK jLK cLK and see what happens
- Actually use Fiber in neutral to move with a purpose rather than shoot it out randomly and then fall down with jHK xx Axe and hope something happens
- Learn something to bring Fortune back in, she often goes out via Super DHC and then I sit on bleh assist I never call cus Pillar
- Too many canned responses still (Auto-cLK after LnL hit, DJ back never neutral/forward out of resets, not enough dash low with soul (mostly dashjump jlp as approach, espec after teching an airthrow), Autopunishes on things that can be cancelled into shit (Filia sHK delay Updo hits me 100%))
- Too many difficulties fighting people who just do random shit