tossles' training thread

Some suggestions after watching those matches:

You gotta work on converting off your assists. When Double M Bomber or Big Band L Beat Extend assists hit, you don't usually get a combo off them. I'd practice that more and get more comfortable doing it in matches. You're taking a risk every time you call an assist, so you want to make sure you can get a big enough reward to make the risk worth it.

When your characters are low on life you don't prioritize getting them out enough, and when you do, you do it in an unsafe way that puts you in an even worse situation. Game 3 Valentine is low on life and you want to get her out, so from full screen you tag to Double. omg don't do this. You have better options to get the next character in safely. You're full screen so throw some scalpels then DHC to monster. This isn't really punishable by Parasoul in this situation. The worst thing she can do is Sniper on reaction to the scalpels, but as long as you wait until she's actually in blockstun from scalpels before you DHC, you're fine. If you DHC after she blocks, she can't sniper. If she tries to sniper before blocking the scalpels, you can DHC to car to counter her sniper. The other good option you have to change team order with this team is hard knockdown with either Valentine s.HK or Double s.HP, then tag cancel to Big Band (won't work with your other characters because they have awful tags but it'll work with Big Band).

You do Giant Step at the end of Big Band blockstrings 100% of the time. Try doing other things. If you get people scared of the threat of Giant Step, you can end your blockstring with Emergency Brake > throw. This is negative but if people are respecting your other options they might not react to it. You could also try ending with L A Train or M A Train; you don't get anything off this other than a hard knockdown, but it's better than having your Giant Step blocked and dying.

You need to recognize when you're hitting their assist and not their point. If the point character isn't being hit they can do anything they want to you while you're hitting their assist. If you notice you're only hitting the assist, try chaining into your launcher and jump backwards and block. This can keep you safe.

If Valentine dies and Double comes in, you stop calling assists completely. Why? You still have L Beat Extend, it's the same assist, it's still good.

Aside from what peanuts said, which is all really good, I'm just nitpicking on some shit:

-You have a tendency to not try and cover your blocked heavies with Val with assists or dead cross. Dead Cross is still punishable with jabs at point blank, but not everyone knows and it's not as punishable as a blocked c.hp or s.hp.
-You don't call bomber assist when you have Val out. It's great for extended block strings and good to call in neutral. Just throw it out sometimes to get in, as long as you cover it right.
-Val combo. Get good with it. You dropped it at some points and you don't vary up your resets. Throw more cuz Val's throw is really good.
-You had situations where you poked, hit a happy birthday and didn't hit confirm.
-Practice recognizing situations where you can score a double snap.

tossle said:

-Should probably stop ending most of my val blockstrings with L bypass. works sometimes, but dead cross would probably be a better general solution

Dead cross isn't safe point blank, but the pushback from s.hk(x2) makes it safe. Still, ending blockstrings with bypass isn't bad if you call bomber assist to keep the pressure.

I think your team is really good for Val so you're off to a good start.

All i can say is, From when i played you, it seemed like you didn't really finish a combo. I'd say work on landing all your combos.
Learn combos using M bomber assist that allow you to load vial mid-combo and continue (in the corner), It's really helpful, it gives you obviously more damage off the vials, but also more reset/burst bait opportunities.

-Instead of EKG>dhc car, dhc cat heads. More damage and more reset opportunities.
-Noticing a lack of air grabs
-Practice picking up after Beat Extend assist with c.mk, or s.mk to save the otg. You're scaling the hell outta the damage with s.mp.
-Learn to counter call assists. like when they call copter from a useless distance, always have bomber ready to punish, and toss dead crosses to cover your assist. Or just hit the assist with dead cross or whatever just to lock out the assist.
-Punish squigs full screen lvl3 with car if it can kill.
-Same thing with Bella lvl3 where the first hit whiffs. Car punish.
-Reset characters that have no air reversals in the air. (Parasoul, Wulf, Bella, Double, Robo, Squigs, Fukua, peacock...)
-Don't call Val assist after all the resources spent to get her out of there
-ALWAYS pushblock bella
-16:34 if you have the chance to make Val NOT achor, do it.
-16:40 any one of those j.lks coulda been an air grab into combo.
-as soon as you snag 2 characters in the corner, snap them out. Don't risk air combos and having one of them drop out.
-Stop throwing out A Trains when you're not even in range.
-31:00 why.
-You need to ground tech every time you get swatted by parasoul's j.hp. You're just giving the other guy a free combo otherwise. The only time Parasoul can get a guaranteed OTG off her j.hp is when she chains into it.
-Round start Parasoul vs Val, just hold back. If the Parasoul dashes in or jump in at you, s.HP > call bomber > HCH combo. The step back Val takes during start up beats all of her rushdown options at that range.
-You also have a hard time reacting to really punishable things and capitalizing on it with a combo.

Ultimately I'd say your Val isn't doing any damage. S.mp scales the crap out of her combos, you're not doing any air bypass combos, and you're not landing any resets cuz your timing and/or execution is off. Or if you do land a reset, you drop your combo.