All IAD + Similar Overhead Move's Speeds

Would you count instant Parasoul jdMK?

 

Big Band's j.mk

 

Squiglys jlp

Also painwheels overheads change frame data depending on if they were canceled into from a special move and what exactky that special move was.


Regular flight into df jlk is 25 frames, and 1 frame faster if using jlp.

 

Fortune's iad jLK is 18f(?) (I don't know if frameskip is goofing on me or not)
Headless iad jLK is 20f

I've only been re-recording the iad jLK and comparing each video and 18f seems to be the most common recording I get.

(also according to the way I do it filia's iad jLK is 16f so take this with a grain of salt)

edit: also this can probably help?
http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Skullgirls/Game_Systems/Movement#Air_Dash

 

Oh it seems I miscounted on Filia's jLK it's actually 17f. I did further testing and it's 16f for sure and I'm counting before it's active. That's the right way to do it right?

Fortune's is still 18f and headless' is 20f I went ahead and recounted those too I can also just upload each frame now that I think of it

Edit: here's the gallery for filia's jLK frame skip was the least mean to this one. I also got like one extra frame of airdash there.

but what's been the most consistent is that filia always airdashes 5 frames after pre jump which is 4f and jLK is 7f so mathematically it has to be 16f. unless we're counting to active frames then it's 17f.

 

Yep! That makes it 19f and 21f.

That's even if I understood what you mean by 'until first active hitbox' because I read it as 'before you see the red hitboxes show up' and on fortune it doesn't go red until frame 19 for head-on and frame 21 for headless so red on 19 and 21

 

Why, we've kept away from SF notation all this time, why are we changing now

 

How about eliza instant jHP?

 

No, seriously, it should work the way it works in game on the frame data display.
Having it be different here would be to confusing.

 

Is it? I need to check this out when I have time.


All else being equal if my old times are correct then flight is 15 frame startup from the ground (10 frames if being canceled into from stinger, iirc)

And jlk hits on the tenth frame. Which is 25 frames... To hit.

Iirc this can be checked via the green frame counter at the top of the advanced data ticker since you can count every frame of startup and the first active.

 

Oh ok then. Yes it is 24 frames of startup not counting the first active.

 

I figured that the extra 1 frame (4f jump start + 7f normal + 5f IAD limit would only be 16f) was 1f of Dashing, since you can't cancel the Airdash on frame 0
So the 17f Filia IAD jLK would hit on the 18th frame

IF it's 17f with SF notation and Mike just mangled up, then say it's 16 and adjust everything else accordingly
Would be exceptionally stupid to use one kind of notation for IADs and another for everything else.

 

It's 4 frames of prejump then 4 of the jump animation then 1 of the dash then the normal itself in this case jLP so 7 and that makes 16. But it's okay it's already been edited.

Also if anyone is really good at beo hopdash jLP could you verify that the fastest time to get is 13f? I'm not very good at this and can't manage anything faster.

Edit: Doesn't Big Band instant jMK have to wait for prejump to end in order to even do a normal? 'Cause that would make it 15 not 11.

 

Thank you for this information, it is very useful!

 

Also @Skarmand
Painwheels flight cancels get 5 frames quicker when canceling from m or h stinger. So 18 frame startup is her fastest overhead from the ground.

 

Valentine's backdash seems to be airborne on frame 7, air action cancellable on frame 8, so if my SG math doesn't suck & my test methods aren't flawed IAD jLP has 7(bd) + 1(ad) + 7(jLP) frames of startup, making her BD~IAD jLP hit on Frame 16, with 15 frames of startup.
Keep in mind that IAD jLP is kind of finicky to hit on some shorter crouchers, where it may hit on its later active frames (adding up to 3f startup), or not at all. Also keep in mind that its more complicated input Here's all her air normals assuming my BD~IAD math is right

IBD~AD jLP: 15f, can whiff depending on spacing
IBD~AD jLK: 17f, short range & tends to hit on later active frames
IBD~AD jMP: 18f, arguably most stable option
IBD~AD jMK: 20f, lands before 2nd hit with perfect timing
IBD~AD jHP: lands before hitting with perfect timing
IBD~AD jHK: 25f, lands before 2nd hit with perfect timing