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Project Annie...In Motion!

Skullmageddon said:
Ugh, I've been meaning to respond to everyone's work and thoughts, but I've been really busy all week. I'm going to try to jump back into this conversation sometime this weekend when I have more time.

Also, I'm pretty sure Sagan doesn't have swirly eyes. Even if he did, the picture you referenced doesn't even show a swirl in his eye, it looks more like a circle. It's hard to tell since we don't have a lot of artwork pertaining to the matter, but the general consensus seems to be that his eyes are buttons (since he's a doll). The black lines in his eyes are often drawn as an X, to convey the yarn that's threaded between the button holes.
Hes a parasite all parasites have swirl eyes and those are swirls look closer or turn up your brightness i thought they where circles two until i focused
 
Skittylover228 said:
Hes a parasite all parasites have swirl eyes and those are swirls look closer or turn up your brightness i thought they where circles two until i focused

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dear me, however did I miss all those swirl eyes before
 
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We'll worry about Sagan later. Besides, he'll probably turn out to be an elastic mess in a good amount of frames when he's animated. Now that THE BEOS is released, I think there are a few more intricacies that should be duly noted about Annie's design.....but I'm not sure I can post stuff like that here since that would lead to potential spoilers that would not be in the spoiler story thread. Err....I'm not sure when I'll get around to this though since the learning experience is coming down on me like a ton of bricks. IUNNO WHAT TO DO
 
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Actually y'know what....

@Cellsai

Is the above acceptable to post about today on this thread? And if not, when is an acceptable time to post about this?
 
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Everyone knows at this point that Annie and Sagan show up in Beo's story, but some have still not seen it. Don't mention any specifics, or post any screengrabs of what either of them may or may not have done for a while yet please. I've attached a couple below. Please try to make do with talking about these until we've lifted the ban.

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Sagan's eyes appear to actually just be holes - not buttons or swirls. The interior of his mouth (where Annie's yellow eye is) is fleshy.
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About the eyes... seems to be like a revelation to us.
About the mouth... aparently not everyone knew about it being fleshy.
 
Cellsai said:
Everyone knows at this point that Annie and Sagan show up in Beo's story, but some have still not seen it. Don't mention any specifics, or post any screengrabs of what either of them may or may not have done for a while yet please. I've attached a couple below. Please try to make do with talking about these until we've lifted the ban.

Thank you Cellsai.

My time frame for explaining everything I noticed throughout the story is limited at this point but I will go over two things I consistently noticed. If I show my inner idiot at anytime throughout this post feel free to skin me alive and dump me in a sauna. And I apologize if my explanations sound cryptic.

1. Her Belt

When I looked at her initial design, I perceived the waistband along with the pouch as somewhat of a fanny pack. This was an incorrect assumption. If you look at the picture Cellsai posted, the "waistband" looks to be more like a thick belt which could compare to the durability of thick leather belts. This also looks like it could disconnect from the pouch itself (which I may add should now always be on the opposite side of the eyepatch on her right eye as Tank pointed out before). I think all of this shouldn't be news to anyone at this point but I've noticed in other screenshots that the belt is flapped under and over the skirt leading me to believe that the belt along with the pouch have some notable physics to them, traveling up the torso a fair amount to plunge back into it's initial hip point since the rest of the outfit doesn't restrain the belt and pouch. I think it would be important to emphasize this aspect more if my assumption is correct. I might go more in depth on that but I think I listed the main jist of it. So far I've completely offended this newfound realization by drawing it as a waistband.....whoops. maybe it could have a a drooped slant sometimes:
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2. Cuffs

Also something that shouldn't need to be said but the cuffs look like they are fanned out a little bit like a drooped sleeve that can't choose a side of the arm to rest on. It may be important when doing squash/stretch frames with her arms to think of her arm hitting the inside of the cuff before considering the effect. Something like this but not as obvious:
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Anyway, I hope this was informative and helpful despite me still retaining my noob status. I'll post more when I have the time. Alas I am chained to the shackles of higher education. Goodbye for now.
 
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Well.. I was already taking account all this when I made the 3d model. (but since it's very small to notice and time consuming, the 3d model doesn't have belt and cuffs physics). Physics will come into play once we clean up animations.

We finally got official high resolution art from her.. A LOT OF IT.
Other things that are worthy of notice (for updating the 3d model and animation) are some folds on annie's clothing, her eyelashes, eyepatch details, sagan's hollow eyes, sagan's closed mouth, details on her sword (the little star is actually bumping out), detail on the other side of her head (what's under the main hair bang).

And things that I learned that might come to play later:.. In story mode there were almost no "pantie shots" which means that most of the thorical animations that we're planning could be following that pattern. We learned about a lot about how the special effects of her star like powers might look in movement.
We learned a lot about Annie´s personalitie and change of moods (she is pretty much a 200+ year old child), as well about her facial expression range.

Whoa.. Beo's story mode actually gave us a lot information.
 
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Whoa.. I missed a lot of progress this past 2 weeks, I need to go back and take a more carefull look at all the animations that you all did.
 
Karlaaldana said:
In story mode there were almost no "pantie shots" which means that most of the thorical animations that we're planning could be following that pattern.

dem bloomers dough. I won't be able to resist.
 
All those action shots and the biggest bloomershot was probably her just standing still.
 
DDB said:
All those action shots and the biggest bloomershot was probably her just standing still.
It's probably very contradictive... but I think there was only one time where the bloomers were shown were at this moment [that was deleted by Cellsai]

All content from the story mode is restricted to this thread until further notice.
http://skullheart.com/index.php?threads/super-spoilers-beowulf-story-mode-and-other-lore.6768/

Please stop discussing it and posting stuff from it, everyone. Yes, I'm being obsessive, but not every region has access to the story mode yet.
 
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FullmetalDuck said:
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dear me, however did I miss all those swirl eyes before
They do somtimes (sorry for the exageration ) but samson does and its swirly sorta in the filia action pose :3 and im sory i said swirly i ment more of a circuler motife but sagain did have swirls in that picture of annie (before beos story) forget i said anything
 
Right so since some peeps are talking about "clean hits" in the Annie Redux Genesis 32x Beta Max Laser Disc thread I thought it would be appropriate to draw up some concepts

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Please excuse my terrible shading.....and doodling........and existence............anyway, the idea on the left is supposed to be what happens on hit impact. A multicolred shifting explosion happens (with effects similar to double's rainbow palette) with cartoonish stars plonking out of it like it's from a Kirby game. The idea on the bottom is for sword swings. It's rainbow ghosting along with sparkles. I personally think that would make more sense but I dunno. Just something I wanted to work on amidst the eye of the storm.

And yea Karla makes a good point. I did happen to reiterate already existing knowledge in my last post so I won't point out anything else I noticed throughout the story since it seems like a waste to post at this time.

See ya later. I'm still working on the two normals I did roughs for btw.
 
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I was thinking Clean hits would make her sword sparkle, not necessarily her or the opponent, maybe make it shine, or leave a trail, or throw of little stars and star dust on a hit. Something obvious, but more subtle than a lot of what we've been suggesting so far.
 
Clean Hits could also make her sword make that sickass SCHING sound Strider Hiryu's sword made.
 
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Is there a way to look only at the image posted on an entire thread? I don't want to have to search through 40 pages of stuff If i need to find a particular image in the thread.
 
I feel bad for Annie and Umbrella fans, they were gimped what, 4 or 5 times in a row?

And I'm still confused how Robo-Fortune won ANY kind of vote...
 
TechPowah said:
She didn't, she was added as a last-minute stretch goal because cheap

That makes some sort of sense, but wasn't Umbrella in the original roster? I figure they got at least a little work done on her to just finish her up and give us what apparently would be the "canon ending".

Well, here's hoping for SG2 with all current cast members, plus a boxing character. For me. And only me.
 
Shorydouken said:
I feel bad for Annie and Umbrella fans, they were gimped what, 4 or 5 times in a row?

And I'm still confused how Robo-Fortune won ANY kind of vote...

Annie fans weren't really gimped at all, considering she was never confirmed to be playable during development.

Robo Fortune wasn't voted in. She's more of a bonus than anything.
 
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Shorydouken said:
That makes some sort of sense, but wasn't Umbrella in the original roster? I figure they got at least a little work done on her to just finish her up and give us what apparently would be the "canon ending".
Umbrella was only in the default roster as in "these are who we want to put in". Once they realized they wanted villains, they replaced Umbrella and Squigly with Double and Val. No actual work on any other characters beyond the first 8 we got was until Squigly started production.
 
Robo was cheaper because she's recycled fortune + robooty.

New hotness made of the old hotness.

On attacks with impact, annie'd probably shoot out colorful stars akin to Marisa (one of her planned inspirations, see IN/soku/Iamp/GFW) and beo's story. So probably more like the first one.
 
And.. Here we go again about Annie not being playable.
In this thread we do our best to make a fan made Annie with the hope of being picked up and supported by L0, so far mike has shown interest but no official sources has confirmed or denied permission to keep making progess on her..

Let's talk about another thing... how about the announcment that storymodes will be fully voice acted, wich means..... ANNIE's voice will be heard.
 
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anyone else feel like once they hear her voice the animations will be easier?
 
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