Thanks vad :) Ok so, to get this ball rolling, does anyone have any advice on taking on parasoul and/ or Eliza? Watching dekillsage play against heavy projectiles he seems to always go chair off, then use armor sweep. Then if he gets a chance, he picks the chair up again and tosses it at the projectile user. My question is: Is it even possible to take on say a shot spamming parasoul consistently, using chair on (without using gigantic arm)? Seems pretty damned hard to me. The second question is Eliza. She out prioritises my beowulf air to air and that makes approaching her very hard. Unlike the parasoul matchup though, wulf blitzer seems much more useable in this matchup since Eliza's projectile travels so close to the ground and most don't throw them much anyways. So what is the best way to take on these matchups?