Double Tips and Tricks

Discussion in 'Double' started by Dynablade, Sep 2, 2013.

  1. joshb911

    joshb911 Well-Known Member

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    Next level tech indeed
     
  2. Receita Federal

    Receita Federal 300ms Member

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    Is this any good? Aside from the crossunder which doesn't work on bb/double, it's all universal

     
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  3. joshb911

    joshb911 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah that's a really solid vortex. You could also use teacup as an over head. Did you test if you can mash out of this setup
     
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  4. Receita Federal

    Receita Federal 300ms Member

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    yep it's possible to mash out of the resets with air super but not the burst bait, so if you are expecting a mash, you can go for the bait
     
  5. joshb911

    joshb911 Well-Known Member

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    Also you can cross under double with this setup
     
  6. Receita Federal

    Receita Federal 300ms Member

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    guess i was lazy, tried sometimes and it did look like it would not work, and since it didn't work on band i assumed it would not cross
     
  7. Receita Federal

    Receita Federal 300ms Member

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    here is another, with some resets that i forgot to put in the first video

     
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  8. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

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    Those resets are cool and nice
     
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  9. joshb911

    joshb911 Well-Known Member

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    But are they nice and cool??
     
  10. Pickles

    Pickles VT scene?

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    you're just saying words
     
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  11. Dime

    Dime The power of BEAT EXTEND

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    Yeah it works well. It's the same mixup I outlined here, the main difference being that you use the first hit of jmk and I use the first hit of jmp. But besides that they are the same mixup, it's great :)

    Use jump back j.lk as a burst bait, it works better than j.lp because it works on all 3 hits of jlk and gives waaaay more hitstun. One of the great things about this reset is that when you crossup you gain back the ability to use assists. So doing the reset into crossup cr.lk, then cancelling the cr.lk into call assist and command dash crossup... Makes for a double crossup mixup.. Which basically hits near everyone the forest few times and keeps people very honest when dealing with this mixup along with the burst bait.

    It is my primary double midscreen mixup. I only use certain others when I want to throw people off visually.
     
  12. Receita Federal

    Receita Federal 300ms Member

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    I only didn't use j.mp because it makes the opponent stay lower so it's harder to crossunder
     
  13. Dime

    Dime The power of BEAT EXTEND

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    Also, using jmk allows for airthrow unlike the jmp version, but I dont have a problem crossing under with j.mp version.

    Ambiguous airthrow/burst bait is one of the games best mixups so double having one would make her go up in the tiers in my mind.
     
  14. joshb911

    joshb911 Well-Known Member

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    J.mp is easy to cross under if you use j.hk.
     
  15. Receita Federal

    Receita Federal 300ms Member

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    but it is slower and more predictable imo
     
  16. joshb911

    joshb911 Well-Known Member

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    Only if you cross under every time. It's a similar setup to yours but is less timing intensive. You can do all the same resets but it's a bit easier IMO
     
  17. Receita Federal

    Receita Federal 300ms Member

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  18. joshb911

    joshb911 Well-Known Member

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    On the over head reset did you check if it worked if BB crouched after the hit?
     
  19. Receita Federal

    Receita Federal 300ms Member

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    checked and confirmed, it works
     
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  20. hilaryyy

    hilaryyy Active Member

    Big Band deserves every bad thing that ever happens to him for his size/hurtbox, but I'd be super conservative about going for crossunder left/right mixups that depend on having conditioned someone to block.

    Big Band players do not pick this character or add him to their team because they have any intention of blocking.
     
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  21. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

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    Wow. Rude
     
  22. Receita Federal

    Receita Federal 300ms Member

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    [​IMG]
     
  23. Mike_Z

    Mike_Z Defender of the Night Lab Zero

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    Correct, we add him to the team because he's awesome and we can do Lv5 solos.
     
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  24. Receita Federal

    Receita Federal 300ms Member

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    i added him to my team because he's big
     
  25. hilaryyy

    hilaryyy Active Member

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  26. Receita Federal

    Receita Federal 300ms Member

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  27. pegglefrank

    pegglefrank I am 5000lbs of folded diamonds and sex appeal!

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    You can fake out a crossup with a midscreen tag-in, too. Double spawns up and slightly to the right, then moves down and slightly to the left, causing the enemy to temporarily face the other direction.
     
  28. Fumako

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    Wasn't this intentionally patched out
    because I never get cross-up double tag-ins anymore.
    I know it doesn't happen anymore because the enemy'll raw tag into double and I'll sit there blocking the wrong way. THANKS MUSCLE MEMORY

    The one in the video's probably thanks to wonky painwheel hitboxes.
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2016
  29. pegglefrank

    pegglefrank I am 5000lbs of folded diamonds and sex appeal!

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    I'm not sure?

    Just to clarify, I mean that it looks like it's a crossup, but you never actually get crossed up. If you're not paying attention, you can get tricked into thinking that it's a crossup because your character faces the other direction, but if you do that then you'll just get hit.
     
  30. Receita Federal

    Receita Federal 300ms Member

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    oh yea that's right, i think it happens to me sometimes
     
  31. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

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    I was messing around in training mode this morning and apparently max range c.HP xx M gun xx Monster is like +20 on hit. Anyone know if there's anything you can do with this? Cilia Slide isn't fast enough to convert, dash c.LK is too slow, a second c.HP doesn't reach (which makes sense, you did a max range c.HP then did something that causes pushback on hit), s.HP is just barely not fast enough at 21 startup frames, and then I didn't have time to try anything else cause I had to go to work.
     
  32. joshb911

    joshb911 Well-Known Member

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    if you want to use more meter you might be able to car the opposite side of monster, knock them into monster and convert off that
     
  33. zarkingphoton

    zarkingphoton Amateur Proctologist

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    What if you call a super slow assist during the c.HP? L George, a charged item, or Kitten Missiles?
     
  34. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

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    Oh yeah I also tried calling L George during the c.HP, I forgot to mention that. Anyways that doesn't work. Other assists might work, but the reason I find this interesting is maybe there's some way for Double to convert off max range c.HP xx M gun without an assist, which I don't believe anyone's found a way to do. +20 is a lot of +.
     
  35. zarkingphoton

    zarkingphoton Amateur Proctologist

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    Can you at least hit with fugazi?
     
  36. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

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    I said s.HP doesn't work come on man
     
  37. zarkingphoton

    zarkingphoton Amateur Proctologist

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    Right, right. Sorry.
     
  38. Pickles

    Pickles VT scene?

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    at max c.hp range c.hp m gun monster I can get to be +21 or +22 on hit, so while extremely tight fugazi would be possible...except they're too far away. Max range c.hp m gun leaves the opponent at basically fullscreen which is well out of the range of any move double has. You must not be at max range if they're even in range for fugazi to hit let alone being + enough. (BTW car doesn't work either, this might not be possible)
     
  39. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

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    Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame. I guess you do need an assist to convert off it. Oh well, thanks for checking!
     
  40. hilaryyy

    hilaryyy Active Member

    cHP xx Slide is confirmable on hit, M-Gun on block.

    Unless there's something with Car > Lenny that's worthwhile for your team I'm not sure why you wouldn't do this since cHP Slide is a really good starter. I did find that cHP M-Gun + L-Shot assist let me dash and launch, so maybe Pea sHP assist or M-Item assist at certain ranges?
     

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