Eliza Setups and Tech Thread!

Discussion in 'Eliza' started by Woofly, Jun 8, 2014.

  1. Woofly

    Woofly Sekh em boys!

    Steam:
    Woofly
    PSN:
    Wooflyples
    Post your setups and such here!

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    Why are you even reading this, combo thread is up there ^.
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2014
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  2. LordSpectreX

    LordSpectreX New Member

    Oh jeez, when I saw a Setups and Strategy thread for a Skullgirls character, I thought it was going to be a joke. Good thing it wasn't.
     
  3. Colossi

    Colossi THE ONE THAT DODGES

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    Colossi
    Fukua
    Cerebella
    Unknown
    is this the tech thread?
    because I've got tech
     
  4. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

    Steam:
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/moon_cadenza
    Parasoul
    Filia
    Double
    how do you do the taunt?

    btw fast fall is after your adc from j mp > j hp > do jmp > j hk and it fast falls
     
  5. Colossi

    Colossi THE ONE THAT DODGES

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    Colossi
    Fukua
    Cerebella
    Unknown
    :KK: is the taunt
    j.HK is shitty midscreen, avoid at any cost, throws the enemy so fucking far
     
  6. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

    Steam:
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/moon_cadenza
    Parasoul
    Filia
    Double
    no no the j hk won't connect it fast falls
     
  7. CaioLugon

    CaioLugon It's an alpaca Gameplay Mod

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    CaioLugon
    PSN:
    O3366-2020O
    Ms. Fortune
    Cerebella
    Big Band
    @Woofly Is this the tech thread? If so could add it to the title?

    either way, here:

    launch, j.hp, adc, j.lp, crosses under

    you can do IAD, j.hp, to get a double cross after
     
  8. DesertACU

    DesertACU Member

    Steam:
    DesertACU
    Painwheel
    Cerebella
    Here's a thing that works on most of the characters when you're next to your opponent

    instant air backdash j.lk, j.hp

    Doesn't work on Painwheel, often misses on Peacock, works on Valentine only when ground dashing into the corner beforehand.
     
  9. Nuuance

    Nuuance Level 51 Pastrymancer Beginner Mod

    Location:
    Toronto
    Steam:
    Nuuance
    Squigly
    Valentine
    Eliza
    Could you call it the tech thread?
     
  10. Ninja

    Ninja [Jazzy Diamonds]

    Location:
    Unknown
    Big Band
    Cerebella
    Don't go crying to Mike Z asking why these things won't work in later updates due to changed hitboxes cause I'm not going to bother the man personally.

     
  11. Colossi

    Colossi THE ONE THAT DODGES

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    Colossi
    Fukua
    Cerebella
    Unknown
    Not only hitboxes, but the grab will be like Val's Air Bypass. You can't take any action until you land.
     
  12. Ninja

    Ninja [Jazzy Diamonds]

    Location:
    Unknown
    Big Band
    Cerebella
    True, so no super fancy air combos off of air resets for you people.

    so lets waste some meter here.

     
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  13. Ninja

    Ninja [Jazzy Diamonds]

    Location:
    Unknown
    Big Band
    Cerebella
    Here just take it, it might just stay till the final build of Eliza.

     
  14. Woofly

    Woofly Sekh em boys!

    Steam:
    Woofly
    PSN:
    Wooflyples
    Just something I came up with this morning, not sure how useful they are/will be but the st.mp and their follow ups lead into some interesting reset points and stuff so....yeah, video.

     
  15. Tomo009

    Tomo009 Well-Known Member

    Eliza
    Robo Fortune
    Beowulf
    j.LK IOH after the patch does NOT work on:

    Filia/Fukua
    Valentine
    Cerebella

    Kinda sad about it not working on Valentine.

    I'm trying to figure out the point of Scythe Spin other than using the HK one as a sort of close range doom rocks assist.
     
  16. infected melon

    infected melon Earth, Fire, Wind, Watermelon

    Location:
    Germany
    Steam:
    infmelon
    Valentine
    Valentine
    Valentine
    jLK instant overhead still works on filia, whatcha mean tomo?
     
  17. Tomo009

    Tomo009 Well-Known Member

    Eliza
    Robo Fortune
    Beowulf
    What range?

    Also "still"? It only worked on BB before the recent patch.
     
  18. infected melon

    infected melon Earth, Fire, Wind, Watermelon

    Location:
    Germany
    Steam:
    infmelon
    Valentine
    Valentine
    Valentine
    standing in front of the character and jumping + jLK is an instant overhead and it worked on a couple characters before
     
  19. 5th of dismember

    5th of dismember Active Member

    Ms. Fortune
    Robo Fortune
    could someone please make a list of combos for newbies short easy combos but damaging in the list could you involve an air combo and a cross up along with 3 other combos

    e
     
  20. Ninja

    Ninja [Jazzy Diamonds]

    Location:
    Unknown
    Big Band
    Cerebella
    Oh yeah forgot to shove this onto here. Here's what Mike had to say about the bait:
    (so here is to me hoping the air Hp doesn't have it's hitbox changed too much.)

     
  21. mpgame99

    mpgame99 Active Member

    Steam:
    mpgame99
    PSN:
    malikpate
    XBL:
    mpgame99
    Valentine
    Beowulf
    Eliza

    cross-unders that work on everyone except BB, Parasoul, and Double
     
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  22. Tomo009

    Tomo009 Well-Known Member

    Eliza
    Robo Fortune
    Beowulf
    Um, nope? Unless I'm REALLY missing something, Fillia is crouching under j.LK from any range, as are about 1/3 of the cast.
     
  23. 5th of dismember

    5th of dismember Active Member

    Ms. Fortune
    Robo Fortune
    i am sorry i dint not mean to spam the thread with my post next time i will do my own reserch on combos
     
  24. CaioLugon

    CaioLugon It's an alpaca Gameplay Mod

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    CaioLugon
    PSN:
    O3366-2020O
    Ms. Fortune
    Cerebella
    Big Band
    Cool reset:

    HpDP, jump cancel, j.mk, adc, j.mk, air L transformation to sekhmet, delayed hp.
     
  25. Rakurin

    Rakurin That guy that's always kinda around.

    Location:
    College
    Steam:
    Rakurin
    Unknown
    Fukua
    Eliza
    Burst bait with Sekhmet.
     
  26. DesertACU

    DesertACU Member

    Steam:
    DesertACU
    Painwheel
    Cerebella
    That's a safe burst, since it still hits Sekhmet's hurtbox. Unless there's a different rule for Sekhmet, a burst is safe if it hits the any opposing hurtbox, including armor, assists, and maybe invincible frames too?
     
  27. Woofly

    Woofly Sekh em boys!

    Steam:
    Woofly
    PSN:
    Wooflyples
    Stuff
     
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  28. Tomo009

    Tomo009 Well-Known Member

    Eliza
    Robo Fortune
    Beowulf
    This is the stuff we need with Sekhmet. Lots of micro resets to make the most of the meter.
     
  29. Cool Gary

    Cool Gary New Member

    Steam:
    Gary
    Squigly
    Double
    in a sekhmet vs sekhmet situation what does the most damage? HP?
     
  30. Rakurin

    Rakurin That guy that's always kinda around.

    Location:
    College
    Steam:
    Rakurin
    Unknown
    Fukua
    Eliza
    Getting back to Eliza and grabbing.
     
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  31. Age

    Age Well-Known Member

  32. Tomo009

    Tomo009 Well-Known Member

    Eliza
    Robo Fortune
    Beowulf
    @Age
    Those look pretty legit, the middle one especially if you can get that re-crossunder option down.
     
  33. RemiKz

    RemiKz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Norcal
    Steam:
    remikz_
    PSN:
    RemiKz_
    Peacock
    Filia
    Cerebella


    Only tried this on squigly so might not work on taller or heavier characters
     
  34. mpgame99

    mpgame99 Active Member

    Steam:
    mpgame99
    PSN:
    malikpate
    XBL:
    mpgame99
    Valentine
    Beowulf
    Eliza


    A cool Eliza reset I found
     
  35. RetroStation

    RetroStation The Eternal Casual on Hiatus

    Steam:
    RetroStation
    Unknown
    Unknown
    Unknown
    If anyone can find a use for these, then I've done my job. Have some things.



     
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  36. gllt

    gllt Dedicated

    Steam:
    gllt
    Valentine
    Cerebella
    Big Band
    I'm rusty, here's your damn sickmethz gimmick. Steb id ub.

     
  37. RetroStation

    RetroStation The Eternal Casual on Hiatus

    Steam:
    RetroStation
    Unknown
    Unknown
    Unknown
    Btw, one air reset I didn't post was

    Ground chain, c.HP, instant nj.HP ADC j.Throw

    In order for the ADC to position properly, you have to neutral jump after launch. Otherwise, use the air throw setup I posted. Was really fun discovering that, and the followup :3
     
  38. Age

    Age Well-Known Member



    I think by herself these mixups aren't too flash, since you'll probably lose pressure if you don't hit on the first try, but being able to do a 50/50 that beats reversals as pretty nice anyway.

    The real nasty stuff is with assists. You can't call during sekhmet attacks, but depending on the assist you have time to create some seriously ambiguous crossups and then either recall to eliza or go for more with the assist lockdown. Kanchou assist + sekhmet recall is pretty hilarious (if a little impractical) since you can both noclip through the opponent.
     
  39. gllt

    gllt Dedicated

    Steam:
    gllt
    Valentine
    Cerebella
    Big Band


    i just like whiffing jHK before airthrow
     
  40. mpgame99

    mpgame99 Active Member

    Steam:
    mpgame99
    PSN:
    malikpate
    XBL:
    mpgame99
    Valentine
    Beowulf
    Eliza


    Cr.HP corner cross-under
     
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