General BnB Compendium

Discussion in 'Gameplay General' started by CaioLugon, Jul 10, 2014.

  1. RemiKz

    RemiKz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Norcal
    Steam:
    remikz_
    PSN:
    RemiKz_
    Peacock
    Filia
    Cerebella
    Just rechecked that combo in retail to see if it still does the same damage

    7765 for a LK > c.MP starter

    7571 for a c.LK > c.MK starter

    Also worth noting it's not universal. Heaviest character I've gotten it to work on is Cerebella and even then, the hop j.MP bit is very strict on her.
     
  2. CaioLugon

    CaioLugon It's an alpaca Gameplay Mod

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    CaioLugon
    Ms. Fortune
    Cerebella
    Parasoul
    Not a fan of c.mk for the starter since it will still go to grab mode after an otg, and those headbutt, c.mp and c.hp, hop j.mp links are very hard if even possible on not-light characters...

    How does s.mp work in the starter chain?

    And about the combo, is there a version with the command grab that is at least consistent on lights and mids?
     
  3. RemiKz

    RemiKz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Norcal
    Steam:
    remikz_
    PSN:
    RemiKz_
    Peacock
    Filia
    Cerebella
    Headbutt > c.MP seems very lenient to me, has to be like a 4 frame link if not more on light characters. The hop j.MP is the hard part but you can replace it with something like j.LK to make the timing easier.
     
  4. CaioLugon

    CaioLugon It's an alpaca Gameplay Mod

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    CaioLugon
    Ms. Fortune
    Cerebella
    Parasoul
    @Vadsamoht Is there a way to allow more than 35 pieces of media in the OP?
     
  5. Vadsamoht

    Vadsamoht Well-Known Member Administrator

    Steam:
    Vadsamoht
    Ms. Fortune
    Robo Fortune
    Currently no, because it makes the page take ages to load if you're on a slow connection. You should still be able to put links there instead, though.
     
  6. Chicken Boo

    Chicken Boo Wears a disguise to look like human guys

    Steam:
    Chicken Boo
    Parasoul
    Cerebella
    Coming back to this game after a while, and I want to learn new combos for my Parasoul/Cerbella team and the combo that I use for Parasoul isn't even on that list. =p
     
  7. Jesuscatface

    Jesuscatface New Member

    Steam:
    steamcommunity.com/id/lawarsi/
    I'm having trouble with Cerebella's midscreen. after the j.mp, j.hk, they get invul on their knockdown. am I doing something wrong orrrr is it outdated orrrr idk lol. Can someone clue me in?
     
  8. CaioLugon

    CaioLugon It's an alpaca Gameplay Mod

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    CaioLugon
    Ms. Fortune
    Cerebella
    Parasoul
    The j.hk is supposed to hit the opponent as they touch the ground, re-standing them. The trick is to delay the jump after c.mk and the j.hk after j.mp.
     
  9. Jesuscatface

    Jesuscatface New Member

    Steam:
    steamcommunity.com/id/lawarsi/
    Thanks so much! Starting to get it now :3
     
  10. Jason

    Jason Not JasonD

    Squigly
    Big Band
    Cerebella
    Yeah I think the Beo combos need some work. Some of them aren't even possible against Double.

    That's fine for a combo guide but its not exactly what I would call a B&B unless there's literally no other way for Beo to get damage other than character specific stuff.
     
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  11. CaioLugon

    CaioLugon It's an alpaca Gameplay Mod

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    CaioLugon
    Ms. Fortune
    Cerebella
    Parasoul
    Most beowulf combos just don't work on bigband and double, I don't really know what to do besides character specific stuff, but you did remind me to replace the first combo, see if that helps.
     
  12. Jason

    Jason Not JasonD

    Squigly
    Big Band
    Cerebella
    Well if that's the case then the only way to deal with it is to split it up into "Combo that works on heavy characters" and "combos that work on everybody else". The way it is now in the OP doesn't really give me any information.
     
  13. Dolfy

    Dolfy not into old men Events Mod

    Are you trying to avoid having Level 1 Stancel links in the squigly combos?

    Here's mine that does about 7520 damage, can't check exact #'s until im out of class though.

    c.lk > c.mk >s.hpx2 seria cancel
    c.lk > c.mk >s.hpx2 xx Silver Chord xx Daisy Pusher
    s.hk
    j.mk(2) > j.hp
    rejump j.lk > j.mk >j.hk
    s.lpx2 > s.mp > c.hp > DragNBite
     
  14. CaioLugon

    CaioLugon It's an alpaca Gameplay Mod

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    CaioLugon
    Ms. Fortune
    Cerebella
    Parasoul
    It's because c.lk is a 3f link and s.lp whiffs on crouchers a lot, I'd rather not have that for the "basic bnb".
     
  15. guitalex2007

    guitalex2007 Well-Known Member

    Steam:
    guitalex2007
    PSN:
    guitalex2007
    XBL:
    guitalex2010
    Squigly 8k (will confirm later) one meter, dragon required

    c.LK, c.MK, s.HPx2 sx s.HPx2 sx c.MK s.HPx2 xx qcf+HP, s.LKx2 c.MK, s.HK j.MK (2 hits) j.HP v ^ j.LK j.MK xx qcf+MK, s.LPx2 c.MK c.HP xx qcf+MK, qcb+LPLK, dash back, c.HK xx charge dragon
     
  16. alexpi

    alexpi Your waifu sucks

    Guit, I'm at just under 8.4 with charge vs lights and BB, just under 8 vs heavies

    c.lk, c.mk, s.hp x2 stancel
    s.hp x2 stancel
    c.mk, s.hp x2 chord, daisy
    s.hk
    j.hk, h divekick
    j.mk x3, j.hk x4
    s.lpx2, s.mp x2, c.hp x4 xx drag

    or

    c.lk, c.mk, s.hp x2 stancel
    s.hp x2 stancel
    c.mk, s.hp x2 chord,
    dp xx mk+hk SBO
    j.hkx4, h dive
    j.lp, j.mk x2, j.hk x whatever
    s.lp x2, c.mk, c.hp x4, drag
     
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  17. guitalex2007

    guitalex2007 Well-Known Member

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    guitalex2010
    Nice damage. I'm not a fan of not having my charge at the end though.

    At all.

    At all.

    I really want my charge.

    Did I mention I want my charge?

    How Squigly players should view their charges (open)
    [​IMG]
     
  18. alexpi

    alexpi Your waifu sucks

    If you change the light version to end with arpegio, it's 8.2 or so. I haven't found a solid combo vs heavies that's both 8k and saves at least one stance charge. Nuance's can save stance charge, but you rely on a burst bait to cross 8k. It's burst safe, but there's still stuff they can do out of it.
     
  19. ssbroski

    ssbroski New Member

    Squigly
    Big Band
    i get undizzy after the divekick
     
  20. guitalex2007

    guitalex2007 Well-Known Member

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    guitalex2007
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    XBL:
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    The MK or the HK?

    Edit: Oh yeah I mixed a couple combos in my head

    Skip c.MK after qcf+HP and add a j.LP to the last air chain
     
  21. ssbroski

    ssbroski New Member

    Squigly
    Big Band
    Still no good.

    Best I can muster is c.LK, c.MK, s.HPx2 sx s.HPx2 xx qcf+HP, s.LKx2 c.MK, s.HK j.MK (2 hits) j.HP v ^ j.LK j.MK j.HK, s.LPx2 c.MK c.HP xx qcf+MK, qcb+LPLK, dash back, c.HK xx charge dragon
     
  22. guitalex2007

    guitalex2007 Well-Known Member

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    That would be the actual combo I was thinking of lol

    Mixed it up in my head with one that used OTG silver chord.

    Speaking of OTG silver chords...

    c.LK c.MK s.HPx2 sx s.HPx2 sx c.MK s.HPx2 sx c.MP s.HK j.MK (2 hits) j.HP, v ^ j.LK j.MK (all) xx qcf+MK, s.LPx2 c.MK c.HP dp+P OTG qcf+MK qcb+LPLK dash back c.HK xx charge dragon (8196)

    Mind you, works from midscreen but if you start with your back too close to a corner you need whip charge too.
     
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2015
  23. CaioLugon

    CaioLugon It's an alpaca Gameplay Mod

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    CaioLugon
    Ms. Fortune
    Cerebella
    Parasoul
    Added Robo-Fortune bnbs to the OP.
     
  24. tanz700

    tanz700 New Member

    Steam:
    SeriousBusiness
    Valentine
    Eliza
    Double
    Anyone have a good Double corner combo we could add? or can the midscreen barrel loop combo work in the corner with some adjustments?
     
  25. noaa

    noaa Beat Extend resolve tudo™

    Steam:
    da_killah17
    Parasoul
    Robo Fortune
    Double
    Both of Double's midscreen BNBs in this thread works on the corner universally with no adjustment whatsoever.
     
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  26. CaioLugon

    CaioLugon It's an alpaca Gameplay Mod

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    CaioLugon
    Ms. Fortune
    Cerebella
    Parasoul
    Doesn't need any adjustments, both of those combos work in the corner.

    edit: ninja'd
     
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  27. tanz700

    tanz700 New Member

    Steam:
    SeriousBusiness
    Valentine
    Eliza
    Double
    Sweet thank you. Makes things alot easier :)
     
  28. joshb911

    joshb911 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Virginia
    Steam:
    joshb911
    Unknown
    Unknown
    Unknown
    The bnb for Fukua need to have the damage changed on them to reflect the nerfs to s.hp
     
  29. CaioLugon

    CaioLugon It's an alpaca Gameplay Mod

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    CaioLugon
    Ms. Fortune
    Cerebella
    Parasoul
    Oh I totally missed this nerf! When did it happen?

    Also omw to change it.
     
  30. joshb911

    joshb911 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Virginia
    Steam:
    joshb911
    Unknown
    Unknown
    Unknown
    don't remember but I'm pretty sure they changed it from 1000 to 950 or something like that
     
  31. Pickles

    Pickles VT scene?

    Location:
    Vermont
    Steam:
    Pickles (/id/shamanlord)
    PSN:
    PS_Shamanlord (but I rarely use this for SG)
    Filia
    Double
    Painwheel
    yeah its 950 now i checked because i didn't remember the nerf either lol
     
  32. CaioLugon

    CaioLugon It's an alpaca Gameplay Mod

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    CaioLugon
    Ms. Fortune
    Cerebella
    Parasoul
    Fixed.
     
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  33. Shine

    Shine New Member

    Parasoul
    Filia
    Double
    The Parasoul corner damage bnb is getting a green burst when I start the last chain. Am I doing something wrong or is it just not a valid combo anymore?

    EDIT:
    Never mind. I'm not sure why, but sometimes I get the green burst and sometimes I don't. I suspect it has something to do with the tears exploding, but I'm not quite sure yet.
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    c.lk, s.mp, c.hp xx Napalm Pillar,
    otg c.mk, f.hp xx L Napalm shot,
    s.lkx2, c.mk, f.hp xx L Napalm Shot,
    s.mp, f.hp xx L Napalm Shot,
    s.lpx2, s.mkx2, s.hpx2 xx M Napalm Shot xx Silent Scope,
    Napalm Pillar burst bait.
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2015
  34. CaioLugon

    CaioLugon It's an alpaca Gameplay Mod

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    CaioLugon
    Ms. Fortune
    Cerebella
    Parasoul
    That's probably because you're delaying the Napalm Pillar in the first chain a little bit, if you don't do it fast enough it will add undizzy and make the combo burstable. You can check on training, if the first pillar adds undizzy, you're not doing it fast enough.
     
  35. Shine

    Shine New Member

    Parasoul
    Filia
    Double
    I literally just figured this out. I had to record myself and compare it to the video. Why is this?
    Also, in training mode, next to the six buttons that light up after you've used them, what are the four dots in the shape of a diamond? I think it has something to do with this.
     
  36. CaioLugon

    CaioLugon It's an alpaca Gameplay Mod

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    CaioLugon
    Ms. Fortune
    Cerebella
    Parasoul
    Since you have to press up to do the pillar, it jump cancels the c.hp and makes the pillar count as a new chain, but if you do it just as the c.hp connects, the special cancel happens before the jump cancel, so it still counts as the same chain.

    The smaller dots are your specials moves, you can see each character has a different set of those, for this combo if the dot on the left turns red after the pillar you did it too late.
     
  37. Shine

    Shine New Member

    Parasoul
    Filia
    Double
    Wow, brilliant. Thanks!
     
  38. Mike_Z

    Mike_Z Defender of the Night Lab Zero

    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    Steam:
    labzero_mike
    PSN:
    MikeZWasTaken
    Cerebella
    Big Band
    ::splits into two::
     
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  39. joshb911

    joshb911 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Virginia
    Steam:
    joshb911
    Unknown
    Unknown
    Unknown
    whoops.... Sorry mike
     
  40. alexpi

    alexpi Your waifu sucks

    HAH! I always knew games developers were capable of asexual cell division.
     

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