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I've found this in the skullgirls digital art compedium, is this an unused filia losing pose?

The difference between this and other animations like Parasoul's overhead kick or Valentine's LVL2 is that this isn't a move that just happened to incidentally have something risque in it; it serves no purpose EXCEPT to have something risque in it. It's a girl's shirt being ripped away to show her chest.
 
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The way I see it this scenario is a win-win.

The players who don't like these kind of animations can play the game normally, but for those who do like those animations (for one reason or another) the digital compendium exists so you can view the rejected stuff for your own pleasures.
 
Number 13 said:
pleasures.
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Muro said:
Why yes.
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It does bring to mind...
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...PedoFilia.
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I knew somebody was going to make that joke!
Smartass.
 
Muro said:
Why yes.
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It does bring to mind...
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...PedoFilia.
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8/10
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Exposing body parts just so they are exposed body parts simply to sexualize the character, when they have nothing to do with the purpose of the attack or the personality of the character, I'm against.
This COULD have been accomplished just as effectively as the opposite of hair-pulling by having Samson pulling on her cheeks (her face, you pervs) for example, which I'd be fine with.

So yes, I put my foot down on this one. And possibly on other rough animations that didn't get past that stage.

Seeing underwear or whatever when it makes sense for the movement because they want to knee you or kick you or are falling over I have no problem with, whether or not you'd see it is up to the artist/character designer.
(TBH I'd prefer many fewer panty shots, but I'm not the artists...and I'd only prefer that because of the amount of crap I get from people about them, or because of how it helps small-minded people justify ignoring the game, not because I have any problem personally.)
 
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Mike_Z said:
Exposing body parts just so they are exposed body parts simply to sexualize the character, when they have nothing to do with the purpose of the attack or the personality of the character, I'm against.
This COULD have been accomplished just as effectively as the opposite of hair-pulling by having Samson pulling on her cheeks (her face, you pervs) for example, which I'd be fine with.

So yes, I put my foot down on this one. And possibly on other rough animations that didn't get past that stage.

Seeing underwear or whatever when it makes sense for the movement because they want to knee you or kick you or are falling over I have no problem with, whether or not you'd see it is up to the artist/character designer.
(TBH I'd prefer many fewer panty shots, but I'm not the artists...and I'd only prefer that because of the amount of crap I get from people about them, or because of how it helps small-minded people justify ignoring the game, not because I have any problem personally.)

Respect, though I do hope that the cheek pulling one could someday be a thing.
 
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Mike_Z said:
This COULD have been accomplished just as effectively as the opposite of hair-pulling by having Samson pulling on her cheeks (her face, you pervs) for example, which I'd be fine with.
Great, now I want to see that.
 
Mike_Z said:
(TBH I'd prefer many fewer panty shots, but I'm not the artists...and I'd only prefer that because of the amount of crap I get from people about them, or because of how it helps small-minded people justify ignoring the game, not because I have any problem personally.)

Let the artists run wild and free. Lol!

On a side note I hate when artistic views are restricted due to "omg, a few hypocrite groups might get loud" , but then again I'm severely against any form of censorship since I saw the remaining bits and consequences of a true dictatorship.
 
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It's funny in context but context doesn't make it not look what it is.

I also thought pulling her cheeks or lips would be suitable alternative

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I wanna like that but Filia's gonna kill me.
 
If this were in the game I think it would be pretty much the only time any character shows any expression of shame or embarrassment.
 
Peterthegameguy said:
It's safe to assume that the game's rating probably would of been brought up to a M rating if that was left in.
I might be thinking too deep into this, but wouldn't this be considered pedophile since Filla is 16?

I don't think it being in the game could really be counted as pedophilia, because no actual minors are harmed or involved, it's fiction/art. But, it could easily be seen as such by consumers...
 
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obregon said:
If this were in the game I think it would be pretty much the only time any character shows any expression of shame or embarrassment.
Parasoul gets embarrassed when she whiffs an airthrow, I'm sure there are others but that one comes to mind.
 
Perhaps some sort of "unrated switch on/off" or "maximum lewdity" option could exist to make everyone happy... It would allow everything to be put in the game, but only show it if you like that sort of thing or don't mind it. It could ask you the first time you start up the game, think CoD:MW2 with the airport level, it warned players when they started playing and then allowed you to remove the level or leave it in.

Of course I know that there is no likelihood of this happening for Skullgirls, but hey, I'm just spitballin'.
 
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The issue isn't what you mind, it's what the people who work on the game mind, and likely to some extent how they believe it will affect the game's perception.

Having a content switch doesn't change the fact that it would be in the game, and would be judged as such.
 
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Ah yes, this infamous animation, personally I don't mind it, but I also like the idea of Samson pulling on her cheeks instead.
 
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Flotilla said:
The issue isn't what you mind, it's what the people who work on the game mind, and likely to some extent how they believe it will affect the game's perception.

Having a content switch doesn't change the fact that it would be in the game, and would be judged as such.

It seems like it's getting judged right now... Granted, it's not in the game but this thread is a good example of how just it's existence is enough to "affect the game's perception". People offended by this kind of thing often seem to flock to it so that they can complain about it. I'm not trying to argue that my opinion is correct, that's ludicrous, but since a small number of people are going to be unhappy anyway, I feel that a "switch" is a perfectly reasonable idea.

Also, of course the developer's have top priority, it's their game, they obviously don't like this, and don't want a "switch", so it's not in the game.
 
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The switch doesn't work since, regardless of whether one turns it on, it would bump up the game's rating which would not make the publisher happy.
 
When they get around to doing alternate poses, which L0 have stated they want to do, the cheeks thing would be a very likely candidate for work.
 
Chrono_Tata said:
The switch doesn't work since, regardless of whether one turns it on, it would bump up the game's rating which would not make the publisher happy.

a bra=m rating? skullgirls is already rated t, only like more gore and nipples would make it an m i guess. Then again DOA is rated M and Soul Calibur is rated T but has just as much panty shots/boob jiggle but has added stabbings? I never understood that one.
 
Chrono_Tata said:
The switch doesn't work since, regardless of whether one turns it on, it would bump up the game's rating which would not make the publisher happy.

It's not that much more explicit than other things in the game, in fact, don't we see Ms. Valentine's bra at one point? It's not as if there would be pure nudity or sex... If an additional bra-shot (next to the existing "sexuality") forces the game to be rated M, I will weep for the gaming industry... Again.
 
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DimitriAwsometh said:
When they get around to doing alternate poses, which L0 have stated they want to do, the cheeks thing would be a very likely candidate for work.

I concur, the cheek-pinching would be neat. I'm just saddened by the general public's over-sensitivity.
 
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Who are the creepazoids perpetuating this discussion that still want to see a teenaged girl's shirt ripped off in game.

I will kick their ass, who are they.
 
Nanashi said:
It's not that much more explicit than other things in the game, in fact, don't we see Ms. Valentine's bra at one point? It's not as if there would be pure nudity or sex... If an additional bra-shot (next to the existing "sexuality") forces the game to be rated M, I will weep for the gaming industry... Again.
Several of her palettes have an exposed bra.
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Nanashi said:
It's not that much more explicit than other things in the game, in fact, don't we see Ms. Valentine's bra at one point? It's not as if there would be pure nudity or sex... If an additional bra-shot (next to the existing "sexuality") forces the game to be rated M, I will weep for the gaming industry... Again.
As it's already been mentioned previously in this thread, the problem is not about what is being shown or not shown. As you point out, characters like Valentine already shows a lot more skin and undergarments than this particular animation. The problem is the difference between someone showing off some skin and someone having their clothes ripped off. The first is sexy while the second is called sexual harassment, the latter of which is something most of the devs, the players or the general population are not okay with. Yes, the animation is tongue-in-cheek and is a reference to her other time-out animation, but people who are new to the game would not get it.
 
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Mike_Z said:
Exposing body parts just so they are exposed body parts simply to sexualize the character, when they have nothing to do with the purpose of the attack or the personality of the character, I'm against.
This COULD have been accomplished just as effectively as the opposite of hair-pulling by having Samson pulling on her cheeks (her face, you pervs) for example, which I'd be fine with.

So yes, I put my foot down on this one. And possibly on other rough animations that didn't get past that stage.

Seeing underwear or whatever when it makes sense for the movement because they want to knee you or kick you or are falling over I have no problem with, whether or not you'd see it is up to the artist/character designer.
(TBH I'd prefer many fewer panty shots, but I'm not the artists...and I'd only prefer that because of the amount of crap I get from people about them, or because of how it helps small-minded people justify ignoring the game, not because I have any problem personally.)


Seems legit and def. on the money MZ.
Real talk, man. When I play this game, my thing is this: I'm trying to kill you, not see what color pannies you got on.
 
Chrono_Tata said:
As it's already been mentioned previously in this thread, the problem is not about what is being shown or not shown. As you point out, characters like Valentine already shows a lot more skin and undergarments than this particular animation. The problem is the difference between someone showing off some skin and someone having their clothes ripped off. The first is sexy while the second is called sexual harassment, the latter of which is something most of the devs, the players or the general population are not okay with. Yes, the animation is tongue-in-cheek and is a reference to her other time-out animation, but people who are new to the game would not get it.

You are right, I definitely won't disagree with you on the difference between the two, and people's reactions to such things... I also wanna apologise to everyone in this thread if I came off like some creep, but I just really hate censorship and how judgemental the general public is. I don't even think that I care much about the animation itself, but more about the circumstances surrounding it...
 
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DDB said:
Val gets stripped down a good number of times throughout her animations, but she's pretty blatantly "that" sort of character.
Actually I thought Valentine was entirely uninterested in romance of any sort of thing like that herself but used sexuality and such as a distraction as part of her kunoichi (female ninja) training.. or am I missing what you mean by "that" sort of character.
Chrono_Tata said:
I think there is a line between a character taking off their own clothing (to titillate or otherwise), and having their clothing ripped off, the latter of which wouldn't fly. Filia basically has to live with another person strapped on to her head all the time, and showing Samson pulling off her clothes has some pretty sinister implications in her case.
I agree that I think better of Sampson than that, but one of the posters did explain why the animation was made pretty well:
"As tasteless as it might be, I think it's somewhat clever what they were going for there. Filia has one win pose where she stands while Samson blows in the breeze, but she also has another one where Samson stands and she blows in the breeze. Filia's current timeout animation involves her tugging on Samson in her frustration, and...well. However risque, I find it vaguely amusing."
That did make me feel a little better, as it's a sort of visual pun almost and I would think of it more as Sampson being childish and just just not thinking through what he's doing (he is closing his eyes and kicking his feat like a little kid in a tantrum after all). That said it's true that it may not get across. Also I myself always prefer respecting characters, but I know I'm not the person that kind of thing is drawn for ;p

Vladislav_Paizis said:
I don't have a problem with fanservice, but that animation is just so disgusting and I'm glad it didn't get into the final game. Makes me hate Samson a lot. Whose idea was this in the first place? Alex Ahad's?

Aw I don't think you should hate Sampson from that : ( If you read the thing above (after the second quote) does that make you feel any better? As I said it made me feel better to understand the joke (since I really like Sampson and didn't see him like that.)
 
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