Make your character broken with the least significant change(s) possible.

Discussion in 'Gameplay General' started by Midiman, Dec 3, 2013.

  1. Broken Loose

    Broken Loose Costumed Adventurer

    Location:
    Orlando, FL, USA
    Steam:
    brokenloose
    PSN:
    Broken_Loose
    XBL:
    Broken Loose
    Double
    Beowulf
    Big Band
    this is a really bad idea
     
  2. Broseidon Rex

    Broseidon Rex POWER UP!

    Steam:
    Will Drop For Diamonds
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    Broseidon Rex
    Cerebella
    Maybe I was thinking that Gregor used to have a shit ton more invincibility frames.
     
  3. Datagram

    Datagram the Great-agram

    Location:
    New York, NY
    Steam:
    Datagram
    PSN:
    data_enabler
    Valentine
    Cerebella


    As far as "supers that people get away with mashing" go, Air Gregor is pretty high up there. I'd say somewhere between Tympani Drive and Air Scalpels

    Edit: lol, I think that might be me in the background going "you play that character, c'mon..."
     
  4. Broken Loose

    Broken Loose Costumed Adventurer

    Location:
    Orlando, FL, USA
    Steam:
    brokenloose
    PSN:
    Broken_Loose
    XBL:
    Broken Loose
    Double
    Beowulf
    Big Band
    Tympani is relatively easy to make safe, and last I remember Scalpels is 0 on block.

    Gregor is -60.
     
  5. Sotherius

    Sotherius Pure Platinum!

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    sotherius
    XBL:
    Sotherius
    Unknown
    Unknown
    Unknown
    But the mindgames tho. =P

    Now people know that i said that i'll mash.

    Now, will they expect the mash because i said that i would mash, or they will believe that i'll not mash because i said i'll mash? This is next level tech. =P
     
  6. dMags

    dMags Well-known Meatball

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    Boston, MA
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    theDMAGS
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    theDMAGS
    7 layer yomi cake right there
     
  7. Datagram

    Datagram the Great-agram

    Location:
    New York, NY
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    Datagram
    PSN:
    data_enabler
    Valentine
    Cerebella
    I admittedly haven't practiced punishing it, but Big Band is vulnerable on the way down if you block any of the hits. Maybe you're talking about if he's as close to the ground as possible when it ends? I suspect that's still punishable.

    Can't test right now, but I can tell you from personal experience that point-blank Air Scalpels is minus. Wiki says -7, which sounds about right.

    Anyway, we're getting off-topic.
     
  8. Lex

    Lex Skill pending

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    Scotland, UK
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    Lex
    PSN:
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    Valentine
    Filia
    Double
    Didn't Peanut's make a video about punishing Tympani, and he showed that no matter what you do you can only lessen how punishable it is up until a point (just above the ground at max range of Tympani) but even then, if your character has a fast enough attack with enough range it can still be punished.
     
  9. Fizzxwizz

    Fizzxwizz lit News Writer

    Location:
    Arizona
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    PSN:
    E_Mano
    Ms. Fortune
    Unknown
    its more or less only punishable if you pushblock before the end of tympani.

    Give fortune the ability to zoom! twice even after the first is blocked.
     
  10. IsaVulpes

    IsaVulpes Just Throw

    Location:
    Trinidad && Tobago
    Ms. Fortune
    Filia
    Double
    Air Scalpels isn't anywhere close to 0 on block either, in fact I corrected Broken Loose on that before but I guess his memory isn't very good
     
  11. pegglefrank

    pegglefrank I am 5000lbs of folded diamonds and sex appeal!

    Steam:
    PeggleFrank
    Big Band
    Beowulf
    Cerebella
    Beowulf's grab stance time limit is completely reset after any attack.

    two minute combo (open)

    WOOF

    No!
    ...
    ...
    ...
    No!
    ...
    ...
    ...
    No!
    ...
    ...
    ...
    No!
    ...
    ...
    ...
    NOOO!!!


    HUH?
    PIPEBOMB!
    HAMMER!
    HEY, CATCH!


    (hop) WHEW!
    LONE BOOT!


    WOOF

    Yes!
    ...
    ...
    ...
    Yes!
    ...
    ...
    ...
    Yes!
    ...
    ...
    ...
    Yes!
    ...
    ...
    ...
    YESSS!!!


    (c.mk)

    No!
    ...
    ...
    NOOO!!!

     
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2015
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  12. Hawt Salsa

    Hawt Salsa please dont hate me im loud but gentle

    Location:
    Seattle, Washington
    Steam:
    /id/hawtfuckingsalsa
    PSN:
    CRAIGSLIST_SALSA
    Big Band
    Double
    Eliza
    How about something broken, like really BAD and like unfinished

    When double does teacup and it whiffs completely, the teacup frowns, and then breaks. This instantly kills double.

    Something good, Fridge is now the Jojo's steamroller, can be converted off of/into a super, and has no undizzy.
    and can be looped.
     
  13. JinKazama'94

    JinKazama'94 INACTIVE

    Location:
    Purgatory
    Beowulf
    Big Band
    I feel like I read the script to a porno
     
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  14. Marrow

    Marrow Kampan Enthusiast

    Squigly
    Cerebella
    Unknown
    Silver Chord ignores blocks/armor, will pull in the foe any time it touches a hurtbox
     
  15. Dragonage2ftw

    Dragonage2ftw Well-Known Member

    Parasoul
    Parasoul's Silent Scope know takes away 50% health.
     
  16. Receita Federal

    Receita Federal 300ms Member

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    receitafederal
    Valentine
    Double
    Big Band
    valentine can teleport
     
  17. JinKazama'94

    JinKazama'94 INACTIVE

    Location:
    Purgatory
    Beowulf
    Big Band
    Any input in Trumpet mode activates Big Bands Level 5 super
     
  18. Broseidon Rex

    Broseidon Rex POWER UP!

    Steam:
    Will Drop For Diamonds
    XBL:
    Broseidon Rex
    Cerebella
    Big Band's jHK is invincible immediately upon hitting the ground up until recovery
     
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  19. pegglefrank

    pegglefrank I am 5000lbs of folded diamonds and sex appeal!

    Steam:
    PeggleFrank
    Big Band
    Beowulf
    Cerebella
    Bella's DD has a vortex effect on hit, allowing it to combo from midscreen.
     
  20. Broseidon Rex

    Broseidon Rex POWER UP!

    Steam:
    Will Drop For Diamonds
    XBL:
    Broseidon Rex
    Cerebella
    Cerebella can call assists during Tumble Run
     
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  21. pegglefrank

    pegglefrank I am 5000lbs of folded diamonds and sex appeal!

    Steam:
    PeggleFrank
    Big Band
    Beowulf
    Cerebella
    Beo's chairless c.hp always launches at full height.
     
  22. Kyugetsuki

    Kyugetsuki aspiring game dev-ish~

    Location:
    Vancouver, B.C
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    Kyugetsuki
    Painwheel
    Unknown
    Unknown
    Beowulf can pick up his chair from anywhere/on screen as long as he is on the ground.

    Squigly can store up to two charges.
     
  23. ArgonBern

    ArgonBern Dhar is love, Dhar is life.

    Beowulf
    Valentine
    Beowulf has more than one chair that he can throw
     
  24. pegglefrank

    pegglefrank I am 5000lbs of folded diamonds and sex appeal!

    Steam:
    PeggleFrank
    Big Band
    Beowulf
    Cerebella
    Adding on to this:

    Beo can rapid-fire chairs, cancelling each chair throw into the next.
    Beo's chair moves have 2x, 3x, 4x, 5x, etc. the reach correlating to the amount of chairs he has.
     
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  25. TechPowah

    TechPowah Just a simple Hero

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    the heart of battle
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    TechPowah
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    TechPowah
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    Switch FC: 1951-3245-1423
    Beowulf
    Big Band
    As long as you can get the actual input in, canceling a taunt into a Blockbuster allows you to use the taunt's effects early
     
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  26. The Dave

    The Dave Well-Known Member

    Steam:
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    Robo Fortune
    Eliza
    Cerebella
    Eliza's jHP is instant and can be used as a reversal. Why should Fukua have all the fun?...
     
  27. Datagram

    Datagram the Great-agram

    Location:
    New York, NY
    Steam:
    Datagram
    PSN:
    data_enabler
    Valentine
    Cerebella
    I feel like a lot of people are forgetting about the "least significant change(s) possible" part...
     
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  28. The Dave

    The Dave Well-Known Member

    Steam:
    TheDaveofHouston
    Robo Fortune
    Eliza
    Cerebella
    Nah, just give 'em invincibility frames! Invincibility frames for everyone!
     
  29. ArgonBern

    ArgonBern Dhar is love, Dhar is life.

    Beowulf
    Valentine
    Anyone's c.LP is a launcher
     
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  30. Fumako

    Fumako Jimbob

    Location:
    The Medici's Cellar
    Steam:
    Fumako
    PSN:
    Fumako
    Big Band
    Peacock
    Let me cancel H Brass into SSJ at any point, up-to and including recovery frames.
     
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  31. pegglefrank

    pegglefrank I am 5000lbs of folded diamonds and sex appeal!

    Steam:
    PeggleFrank
    Big Band
    Beowulf
    Cerebella
    Bella's j.mp now causes ground bounce instead of OTG if chained into. The bounce sends the opponent up to the point where they were hit.

    Using this, you can link j.mp into itself repeatedly after each bounce, dribbling the enemy like a basketball.
     
  32. CaioLugon

    CaioLugon It's an alpaca Gameplay Mod

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    CaioLugon
    PSN:
    O3366-2020O
    Ms. Fortune
    Cerebella
    Big Band
    Well, technically, if a change makes a character broken then it's already incredibly significant...
     
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  33. TechPowah

    TechPowah Just a simple Hero

    Location:
    the heart of battle
    Steam:
    TechPowah
    PSN:
    TechPowah
    XBL:
    Switch FC: 1951-3245-1423
    Beowulf
    Big Band
    You can parry with the assist buttons if Band is Solo
     
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  34. pegglefrank

    pegglefrank I am 5000lbs of folded diamonds and sex appeal!

    Steam:
    PeggleFrank
    Big Band
    Beowulf
    Cerebella
    Holding LP during Bella's j.lp will consistently and automatically rapid fire punches at the fastest possible speed.
     
  35. Fumako

    Fumako Jimbob

    Location:
    The Medici's Cellar
    Steam:
    Fumako
    PSN:
    Fumako
    Big Band
    Peacock
    That's less broken and more "YES NOW I DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT J.LP(3) J.HP LINK" c:
     
  36. Broseidon Rex

    Broseidon Rex POWER UP!

    Steam:
    Will Drop For Diamonds
    XBL:
    Broseidon Rex
    Cerebella
    Bella jHP minimum height reduced to one pixel above the ground.
     
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  37. pegglefrank

    pegglefrank I am 5000lbs of folded diamonds and sex appeal!

    Steam:
    PeggleFrank
    Big Band
    Beowulf
    Cerebella
    During Wulfamania, you can use jazz hands in place of wulf press slam or diving wulfdog. The animation isn't any shorter.
     
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  38. missingno

    missingno Bird/Normal

    Location:
    PA
    Steam:
    /id/MegaMissingno
    Valentine
    Robo Fortune
    Parasoul
    MK Egret blocks all assists too, projectile or not.
     
  39. MegamanDS

    MegamanDS You know who EightySixed Staff

    Steam:
    MegamanDS
    Fukua
    Parasoul
    edit: nvm
     
  40. Fumako

    Fumako Jimbob

    Location:
    The Medici's Cellar
    Steam:
    Fumako
    PSN:
    Fumako
    Big Band
    Peacock
    Just play BB and call out H Brass assist, pretty much the same thing
    :v
     
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