Peacock Combo Thread

Discussion in 'Peacock' started by Liam, Oct 28, 2013.

  1. Mike_Z

    Mike_Z Defender of the Night Lab Zero

    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    Steam:
    labzero_mike
    PSN:
    MikeZWasTaken
    Cerebella
    Big Band
    Peacock
    s.HP(1) xx Lenny, Argus works and doesn't require OTG...
     
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  2. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

    Location:
    Massachusetts
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    Double
    Big Band
    Peacock
    A string into L Gun xx Lenny > Argus will also work if you still have your stagger.
     
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  3. IsaVulpes

    IsaVulpes Just Throw

    Location:
    Trinidad && Tobago
    Ms. Fortune
    Filia
    Double
    sHP(1) xx [H.SoID] xx Argus works and is much easier than sHK
    Range is shorter, but with cMK vacuum it should be fine probably

    When I still played this char I did cHP xx [H.SoID] xx Argus for Double Arguses, but that one is a bit iffy
     
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  4. Slyzor

    Slyzor Active Member

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    Slyzor
    Painwheel
    Big Band
  5. Chuck N. Plazma

    Chuck N. Plazma Downbacker

    Location:
    Detroit, Michigan
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    chuckplazma
    XBL:
    deadpoolxfleet
    Painwheel
    Painwheel
    Painwheel
    safe burst
     
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  6. Lawnba

    Lawnba Active Member

    Steam:
    Lawnba
    PSN:
    lawnba
    Peacock
    Ms. Fortune
    Big Band
    here's a damaging counter hit combo with LnL.
     
  7. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

    Location:
    Massachusetts
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    Double
    Big Band
    Peacock
    Jesus Christ let me go ahead and never reversal against that team
     
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  8. Lawnba

    Lawnba Active Member

    Steam:
    Lawnba
    PSN:
    lawnba
    Peacock
    Ms. Fortune
    Big Band
    I wanted to see if I could tag in my characters and combo with the setup I saw @mcpeanuts do on his stream and I can!
     
  9. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

    Location:
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    Double
    Big Band
    Peacock
    Neat! Yeah as long as you have a way to charge an item mid combo and drop it when it's level 3 it should be possible to combo into most tags. Charging an item mid combo requires an assist but can be done with a lot of assists; offhand I know it works with Beat Extend and LnL (obviously), Cerecopter, H Osiris Spiral, Drag n Bite, Platonic Drillationship, and H Pinion Dash. I'm sure it works with a bunch of other assists too.
     
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  10. Chuck N. Plazma

    Chuck N. Plazma Downbacker

    Location:
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    XBL:
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    Painwheel
    Painwheel
    Painwheel
    Little extra damage off grab
    better against heavy chars because you can otg (H)Bang meterless anywhere on screen
    light characters need a bit of the corner.
     
  11. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Steam:
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    Double
    Big Band
    Peacock
    Oh, yeah, I forget which thread I posted this in but it turns out this isn't true. You can do L gun xx Lenny which gives you just enough frames to charge an item then link a s.LP before they can shake the stagger. You can also charge an item just as L bomb hits, if you find yourself in a situation where the opponent is sandwiched between you an the L bomb. In the corner you can do s.HK xx charge item then link whatever. I wonder if there are also other ways to do it...
     
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  12. Mr Peck

    Mr Peck that UK Peacock player Lab Zero

    Location:
    Guildford, UK
    Peacock
    Robo Fortune
    I used both of those midscreen methods in my combo video, yay. I don't know of any other ways of doing it yet.
     
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  13. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Steam:
    may_contain_peanuts
    Double
    Big Band
    Peacock
    Actually I think I may have just found another way to do it.

    s.MK
    j.MP j.HP ADC
    j.LP j.HK
    charge item, c.LK s.MK
    j.LK j.HK
    left/right/air grab

    This link is really hard. I'm also not sure it works on everyone, I couldn't do it on Filia. I did get it to work on Painwheel and Bella. Not tested on everyone cause I gotta head out in a few minutes.
     
  14. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Steam:
    may_contain_peanuts
    Double
    Big Band
    Peacock
    Video of the above mixup. I've now been able to get this to work on everyone except Filia/Fukua, Peacock, Valentine, and Double. It's really hard. Enjoy.

     
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  15. ShakyFingers

    ShakyFingers Thou art a Smite-meister

    Location:
    Fort Smith, Arkansas
    PSN:
    ShakeyFingers
    Peacock
    Big Band
    Cerebella
    I just got it to work on Filia/Fukua, Val and Peacock, but the timing is pretty rough. I can try to make a video to prove it, but with my square button being as busted as it is, it could take a while.
     
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  16. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Steam:
    may_contain_peanuts
    Double
    Big Band
    Peacock
    It's fine I believe you
     
  17. Mr Peck

    Mr Peck that UK Peacock player Lab Zero

    Location:
    Guildford, UK
    Peacock
    Robo Fortune
    The best frame advantage I can get from the lowest possible j.HK on Filia is +42, but I have a feeling the training mode frame advantage might not be counting Peacock's 2 frames of landing recovery because I set a savestate immediately after doing an early jump in j.LP that it thought was +9 and couldn't chain into c.LK in 100 attempts (should be a 2 frame link, but would be a 0 frame link if training mode wasn't counting Peacock's landing frames and the setup was actually +7). So in reality, the perfect j.HK is probably +40.

    Calling an item drop is 30 frames and doing c.LK takes 8 frames (including the first active frame), so doing a perfect j.HK then a perfect 1f link into item drop and 1f link into c.LK will leave you with 2 frames to spare. So it's kinda like two 2 frame links in a row, or a 1f link and a 2f link if your j.HK isn't perfect. It's viable enough that I'm going to put serious time into learning it so my anchor Peacock can have item drop resets, but it's difficult!

    Edit: Welp, if you land j.HK on your opponent just before they land so avery hits them on the ground instead of carrying them into the air, you can get as much as +53 advantage. This makes the whole setup really easy, so tomorrow I'll go figure out how to get this consistently.
    Edit 2: I can't figure out how to get this consistently yet :(
     
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2016
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  18. Chuck N. Plazma

    Chuck N. Plazma Downbacker

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  19. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Steam:
    may_contain_peanuts
    Double
    Big Band
    Peacock
    Working on practical 5 bar combos. Here's what I came up with:

    c.LP c.MK c.HP s.HK xx item drop,
    dash s.LP s.MK,
    j.HP ADC,
    j.LK j.HK,
    land, rejump j.MP j.HP ADC,
    j.LP j.MP,
    c.MP xx L gun xx Lenny,
    H item (charge) xx Argus Agony,
    (Lenny explodes) release level 3 item,
    Lenny,
    Argus Agony,
    (Lenny explodes) H item (charge),
    Argus Agony,
    release level 3 item (triggers undizzy and IPS)

    This works on everyone except for Double; for her, change the bolded j.MP to a j.MK and it works. This does around 14,000 damage depending on how many hits of Argus you get. This is a touch of death in 3v3, 2v3, 1v3, and 1v2, except against Valentine for some reason? The combo works on her but it doesn't kill her. It's like you can't get as many hits of Argus or something.

    e: nm just got it to kill Val. It's definitely weird on her though.
     
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2016
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  20. RemiKz

    RemiKz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Norcal
    Steam:
    remikz_
    PSN:
    RemiKz_
    Peacock
    Filia
    Cerebella
    I remember I had a combo using LnL that would kill in 2v2 that used 5 meters. I'll look into it again.

    EDIT: FFFFFFffffffuuuuuuuuuu just tried it out and it was just 15k damage and shy of the kill with most of the argus lasers hitting. I forgot that mike beefed up the life at some point.
     
  21. Mr Peck

    Mr Peck that UK Peacock player Lab Zero

    Location:
    Guildford, UK
    Peacock
    Robo Fortune
    The first post in the thread has been overhauled in the same style as Parasoul and Robo Fortune's combo threads. Hopefully it'll be a useful resource for people who want to pick up Peacock c:
     
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  22. Slyzor

    Slyzor Active Member

    Location:
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    Painwheel
    Big Band
    Tfw no CaioLugon's combos in the OP.
    Show Spoiler
    And optimal combo is not even optimal.
     
  23. Mr Peck

    Mr Peck that UK Peacock player Lab Zero

    Location:
    Guildford, UK
    Peacock
    Robo Fortune
    Tell me what combos should be there instead. It's supposed to be a useful resource for players, so if there are problems with it I'd love to improve it.
     
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  24. Grunt

    Grunt Burglar

    Steam:
    tnurG
    PSN:
    tnurG
    Cerebella
    5lp 5mp 2mk 2hp 5hk h item
    dash jump jmk jhk
    jmp jhk (land) l item
    jlk jhk
    jhp ADC jlp jmp
    5lp 5lp 5lk 5mp 2mk 2hp 5hk h item (charge) Argus (drop item)

    Something like that^ does 9k 2v2 I think? ends with the fake burst bait.
     
  25. Slyzor

    Slyzor Active Member

    Location:
    Russia
    Steam:
    Slyzor
    Painwheel
    Big Band
    Midscreen bnb
    Show Spoiler

    Corner bnb
    Show Spoiler

    If you want to include useless butthole-tearing optimal midscreen
    Show Spoiler


    Also please mention that it is much easier to do s.HP(1), item, argus than
    c.HP, s.HK, item, argus
     
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  26. Mr Peck

    Mr Peck that UK Peacock player Lab Zero

    Location:
    Guildford, UK
    Peacock
    Robo Fortune
    They're all fine with me! Send Skarmand an updated first post and ask him to change it, I guess.
     
  27. Zephyrel

    Zephyrel Hmph.

    Location:
    Kansas City, Missouri
    Steam:
    Zephyreles
    Peacock
    Big Band
    Cerebella
    I gave Peck my starter for that advanced airthrow conversion when he stopped in Discord, but I guess I didn't give my full combo. Mine's a bit more optimized and with bigger damage output, at an optimal 6.4-6.5k dmg if you end up hugging the char in the corner or they're big and you can get a full chain on the last ground chain. Typically though, it's gonna be about 5.8-6k if you're still midscreen. Still a fair increase from Peck's 5.4k.

    (Difficulty: Still Hard)
    Airthrow (at apex jumping heights, can't be too low,)
    jMK adc jHK
    c.MP s.MK
    j.HP adc j.LK j.HK
    j.MP j.HP adc j.LP j.MP
    s.LP(x2) c.MK c.HP s.HK SOIDH charge Argus SOIDH3 drop

    If you end up in the corner by the last chain or it's a big heavy character, like, Big Band, and I'm pretty sure this is true for Bella, Beo, Double, and maaaayyybe Robo, you can add c.LK or s.LK between s.LP(x2) and c.MK. c.LK is the safer normal to add in because less pushback. I'll make a video of the combo maybe sunday. Let me know how it works for you guys in the meantime.

    Fun fact. I conceptualized this link and combo when Mike Z implemented MvC2 gravity, jumps, and air steering. It managed to translate into normal SG too, so that was nice.
    Also I could've SWORN I had made more combo videos, but apparently not; my recorded collection is lousy, so I'm gonna have to get back on that when I start getting off hiatus.
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2016
  28. Swiftfox-Dash

    Swiftfox-Dash The one... the only

    Location:
    Texas
    PSN:
    TJgamer22
    Peacock
    Cerebella
    The one I do off airthrow is:
    j.mk AD j.hk
    forward jump j.mp j.hk
    forward jump j.lk (3 hits) j.hk
    forward jump j.hp AD j.lp j.mp
    s.lpx2 LP Bang (stagger)
    Dash c.lk s.mp c.mk s.hk SoiD (hold) Argus then release item.

    Is rather consistent all things considered and gets a hair under 6.5K. I never thought about your combo before, if it does about the same damage it might be worth testing which combo is more consistent against the weight classes and learning both!
     
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  29. Dhoppler

    Dhoppler Forsaken by grains. Hated by the food industry.

    Location:
    KCK
    Steam:
    dhoppler
    PSN:
    dhoppler
    XBL:
    stormin fiasco
    Peacock
    Ms. Fortune
    Big Band
    I'm sure I'm missing it from somewhere in here, but where's the solo peacock bird loop combo that ends in double/triple argus?
     
  30. CaioLugon

    CaioLugon It's an alpaca Gameplay Mod

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    CaioLugon
    PSN:
    O3366-2020O
    Ms. Fortune
    Cerebella
    Big Band
    @mcpeanuts

    Only tested on Filia and Parasoul



    Notation (open)
    0:00

    L bomber, puddle, tag,
    j.lk, j.mp, j.hk,
    j.hp, adc, j.lp, j.mp,
    s.lk, c.mk, s.hp, M bomb, L bomb,
    dash, s.lpx2, c.mp, c.mk, c.hp, s.hk, H item (hold) argus, drop item.

    7989 dmg


    0:18

    L bomber, puddle, tag,
    s.mp, s.mk,
    j.lk, j.mp, j.hk,
    M item drop,
    dashjump, j.hp, adc, j.lp, j.mp,
    c.lk, L bang,
    dash, s.lp, c.mp, c.mk, c.hp, s.hk, H item (hold) argus, drop item.

    7963 dmg


    0:37

    L bomber, puddle, tag,
    j.lp, j.lk, j.mp,
    s.mp, c.mk, s.hp(1), M bomb, L bomb,
    dashjump, j.mk, j.hk, M item drop,
    dash s.lpx2, c.mp, c.mk, c.hp, s.hk, H item (hold) argus, drop item.

    7798 dmg
     
  31. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Steam:
    may_contain_peanuts
    Double
    Big Band
    Peacock
    ty so much Caio, when I get home I'll test these on all the characters

    e: Looks like j.LK and s.MP work on everyone. I already tested j.LP so I know that works on everyone, although it's weird on Bella.
     
    Last edited: May 9, 2016
  32. CaioLugon

    CaioLugon It's an alpaca Gameplay Mod

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    CaioLugon
    PSN:
    O3366-2020O
    Ms. Fortune
    Cerebella
    Big Band
  33. CaioLugon

    CaioLugon It's an alpaca Gameplay Mod

    Location:
    Brazil
    Steam:
    CaioLugon
    PSN:
    O3366-2020O
    Ms. Fortune
    Cerebella
    Big Band
    hard version

     
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  34. Dagwood

    Dagwood Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Canada
    Steam:
    Dagwood
    PSN:
    crond1zzle
    Parasoul
    Cerebella
    Double
    does anyone have tips for the --> 5HK, item drop, dash jump jMK jHK combo? Is there some kinda trick to it cause I just can't seem to get it.
     
  35. Gelato

    Gelato Member

    Location:
    Midwest
    Steam:
    gelatoforsale
    Parasoul
    Double
    Cerebella
    Are you special cancelling the sHK late enough to get the extra distance?
     
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  36. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Steam:
    may_contain_peanuts
    Double
    Big Band
    Peacock
    What Gelato said, and also delaying the j.HK helps I think.
     
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  37. ShakyFingers

    ShakyFingers Thou art a Smite-meister

    Location:
    Fort Smith, Arkansas
    PSN:
    ShakeyFingers
    Peacock
    Big Band
    Cerebella
    I find it's easiest to get the followup if you do item drop after Peacock trips and hits the ground, because it gives her a tiny bit of forward momentum when you cancel into item.
     
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  38. Dagwood

    Dagwood Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Canada
    Steam:
    Dagwood
    PSN:
    crond1zzle
    Parasoul
    Cerebella
    Double
    Thanks guys, finally getting it now
     
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  39. RemiKz

    RemiKz Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Norcal
    Steam:
    remikz_
    PSN:
    RemiKz_
    Peacock
    Filia
    Cerebella
    The most important factors seem to be

    1) Don't cancel HK immediately, let Peacock slide forward a bit
    2) The higher the opponent is when you hit them with j.MK after they bounce off the ground, the better
    3) Try to hit j.HK as late as you can, you sorta want to be below their level when it hits
     
  40. mcpeanuts

    mcpeanuts Anchor Peacock is the future

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Steam:
    may_contain_peanuts
    Double
    Big Band
    Peacock
    Combo starting from Road Roller. Turns out it IS possible. Thanks to @Psychopath for telling me about it.

     
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