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Salty Updates 7 Mar 2014

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A big thanks to everyone who showed up to participate in Skullgirls at So Cal Regionals. Being featured in a major was great, but we can't stop there. If you want to see Skullgirls appear at more majors, go out to tournaments and show that there's enough interest in this game! The only way the big streamers will take this game seriously is if they see big attendance numbers, so go out there and show up to your local scene! Check the Events tab to see if there is anything happening close to you.

In other news, a decent amount of updates below the break:

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  • Console Builds
    • Both versions of the console build are now in test.
  • General Gameplay
    • burst mechanics
      • Bursting before 90 frames is punishable.
      • Bursting after 90 frames is 'free'. (Working on finding out a way to add effects which indicate this)
  • Ms. Fortune
    • Fortune's j.hp is two frames faster on startup
      • 275 less damage
      • Can now instant overhead with it
      • Can cross-up with it slightly better now
      • No longer combos into Spike
    • Fortune's s.hp is two frames faster on startup
    • Can no longer combo off Fortune's ground super (head-on)
      • Can cancel the end of the super into head call
    • Fixed a bug where chaining from fiber upper into j.hk resulted in a red bounce
  • Squigly
    • Squigly's ground techs had the echo removed from her voice lines
    • Regular stance startup draugen punch is not invincible
    • HP draugen punch can't be held down
      • If level 2 is charged, HP Draugen Punch is completely invincible up through all three of the active frames
  • Big Band
    • All of Big Band's frames have been colored
    • Altered Beat Extend frame data (on block)
      • standing: lp -16, mp -20, hp -24
      • crouching: lp -23, mp -26, hp -28
    • j hk. is more punishable on block
    • Level 5 is now comboable/DHC-able
    • Fixed the echo on level 5
 
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Some Person said:
Both versions of the console build are now in test

does this mean Xbox Patch at last?
 
I'm crossing my fingers so hard. I'll try not to break them.
 
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I've been giving MAQL builds for the Xbox for like a month and a half, I don't even know anymore.
 
Chicago said:
I'm crossing my fingers so hard. I'll try not to break them.
Unfortunately I can confirm that I have developed a problem from crossing my fingers for Skullgirls:
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Mike_Z said:
I've been giving MAQL builds for the Xbox for like a month and a half, I don't even know anymore.
so Konami still being Konami is the thing holding you back then?
 
I honestly have no idea what it is, I think it's just MS making triple sure they are legally covered so they don't anger the people making MGS.
 
So does this mean Big Band will be coming out onto console on Tuesday?
 
Light-Triforce said:
So does this mean Big Band will be coming out onto console on Tuesday?
No. The turn-around time isn't that fast at Microsoft or Sony. When we have a specific release date, you'll hear about it. ;D
 
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I really really like this update. Best update so far... Primarily talking about the fortune buffs AND nerfs. It is literally perfect. Though i do wish she could receive a frame or 2 buff on j.hk.
 
render said:
No. The turn-around time isn't that fast at Microsoft or Sony. When we have a specific release date, you'll hear about it. ;D

Ok just wanted to be sure. :)
 
Has there been any contact from the fella working on the Linux/Mac port?
 
That pre/post 90f burst thing is pretty interesting. Not sure if I like it, but I haven't tried it so I'll hold judgement till I do!
 
Doesn't matter if you (or anyone else) like it - if I don't do it, there are burst-safe infinites. It prevents that while being the least-intrusive change otherwise and still allowing burst baits.
 
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Mike_Z said:
I honestly have no idea what it is, I think it's just MS making triple sure they are legally covered so they don't anger the people making MGS.

Nah it's more than likely that Microsoft are run by monkeys. I've seen how they treat indie devs before. I don't know why you continue to bother at this point Mike.
 
Some Person said:
General Gameplay
    • burst mechanics
      • Bursting before 90 frames is punishable.
      • Bursting after 90 frames is 'free'. (Working on finding out a way to add effects which indicate this)

I'd assume the easiest way to make the effects indicate that the burst is safe is having the burst sparks as a different color. Red is taken by repeating chains, green is for when drama is maxed and will override IPS sparks, blue can override green and red sparks to indicate a safe burst, if necessary.

It's not the most elegant but it's something.
 
Still nothing on EUncore... T_T

I know you guys don't want to give people wrong info and are waiting on Sony of Europe to get their stuff together but I was hoping that after the vanilla SG 6 month delay, they would have learned something about this business. Might as well just skip to the Big Build.

By Venus' lacy unmentionables! I genuinely believe they made a European branch for the sole purpose of screwing us over because I am yet to see what they actually do right. -_-"
 
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LordTerminal said:
Nah it's more than likely that Microsoft are run by monkeys. I've seen how they treat indie devs before. I don't know why you continue to bother at this point Mike.
Most likely because a good chunk of the backers are XBL players and L0 doesn't want to screw them over if they can help it?
 
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How about the burst sparks turn blue when your burst becomes free?
Or maybe the undizzy bar changes colour?
 
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render said:
No. The turn-around time isn't that fast at Microsoft or Sony. When we have a specific release date, you'll hear about it. ;D
does this mean that possibly squigly and big band would both show up on 360 in a single giant update?
 
Pizzarino said:
Turn that burst effect gold!
This motherfucker's name is Pizzarino! Pizza-goddamn-rino!

Shut all this shit down right now, that name just won everything!
 
You've been around SG for how long and hadn't seen Pizzarino before?

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Zazz said:
does this mean that possibly squigly and big band would both show up on 360 in a single giant update?
That possibility exists, yes. I keep givin' 'em builds, whichever one they end up submitting is what people will get. The builds I'm givin' 'em from now on do have Big Band.
 
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Number 13 said:
Most likely because a good chunk of the backers are XBL players and L0 doesn't want to screw them over if they can help it?

Except it's not L0 that would be screwing them over so much as Microsoft.
 
Would the XBL players see it that way? I doubt it.
 
Everyone knows Microsoft aren't the easiest to work with.
 
My highschool bus driver played The Party Song constantly for a period of a few weeks. We've all been there.
Just saw this part in the patch notes and was like wait is Mike Z my age? I was in high school when this album came out...

e: Oh his age is in his profile. Huh yeah I'm only 4 years younger than him.
 
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My current situation doesn't allow me to record videos (renting a place and I haven't setup my rig and internet yet) so sorry if I miss (at least) a couple of saltys from now on.
 
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The fact that they announced it publicly means the console bureaucracy process for EU PSN was done finally and L0 was able to confirm it. They are being very careful by now on announcing stuff and won't jump the gun unless 100% confirmation was understood. XBL patch meanwhile is lost in the twilight zone.
 
Balder said:
Yooooo, this for real REAL? No take-backsies? <:3
https://twitter.com/x/status/443863676152315905

It's for realsies.

Number 13 said:
The fact that they announced it publicly means the console bureaucracy process for EU PSN was done finally and L0 was able to confirm it. They are being very careful by now on announcing stuff and won't jump the gun unless 100% confirmation was understood. XBL patch meanwhile is lost in the twilight zone.

Truth.

Mostly. We're submitting the Xbox360 version for testing any day now - Mike's actually been providing builds for weeks now, but MS hasn't given the green light to testing until recently - and if the first submission of Encore doesn't pass, then we'll resubmit a version that includes Big Band. That means it's entirely possible that BB and Squigly could get released at the same time on Xbox360. That's assuming the initial submission doesn't pass cert testing, though, and we'd certainly prefer that it passed. :P
 
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I know you guys always wait until things are set in stone. It's not you I doubt but Sony of Europe. Forgive my skepticism but as a European gamer, I've witnessed my fair share of adamant claims crumble into dust.
In any case, I'll count myself content for the delay not being nearly half as bad as the vanilla release. Guess Sony of Europe really did learn something out of that experience.
 
FWIW, they promised us it would be earlier but we didn't get confirmation, so we didn't say anything.
If we said something, then it has already been confirmed with us.
 
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