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Discussion in 'Training Diaries' started by Cadenza, Jan 30, 2015.

  1. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

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    Hello. I wished remembered what is was whenever i first played my first fighting game. Yes, Soul calibur 2 Many people said i was good and what not. until the one day, a very good player winning 1-2 in his favor said:

    Note1 (open)

    Always remember you're shit. Don't expect much after that


    At first i never understood much of it. as i grew older i played games that had predetermined matchups, combos, stages of thought where each player both knew. at this point i knew how to play and what not.

    Fast forward here. SKULLGIRLS. I've never explored one thing "which was a community i really really liked and cared for".

    However the problem is now that with a game that constantly changes and the matchups also change constantly. i feel frustrated, lost, angry, confused. and its all apparent in my.......atrocious thread

    http://skullgirls.com/forums/index....rkteam-learns-a-lesson-in-git-gud.2843/unread

    I hate everything about that thread. i hate how long it is. i hate how much i post in it to find stuff. i hate asking questions expecting a clear answer when in reality people need to have a discussion to find a clear way to solving a problem. I hate being very angry at this game. HOWEVER i will link it here to serve as a memory and a reminder of why i fucking suck.

    I do not want to be THAT GUY. To do that i must realize key things.

    Truth (open)

    You do not have a main. No one.
    You do not know how to play the game.
    You do not know how to be a good player.
    a good fighter does not mean a good player.


    along with those words i plan on using this thread to monitor.

    My attitude.
    My gameplay.
    and overall how less shitty i can be as a player of fighting games and as part of SGC. otherwise i might as well quit skullgirls.

    Right now i know the following characters:

    Filia
    Cerebella
    Fukua
    Squigly
    (Wip) Parasoul
    Ms.fortune

    I know burst baits
    i know resets
    i know double snaps and i learned midscreen kills.

    Now i realized i'll be on my own due to my extremely shitty behavior and that's fine cause i deserved it. In the end now that i know i'm shitty i can only get less shitty. how do i do that? I'm honestly not sure, but i rather would try to get better as a player than quit fighting games completely.

    It is with hope that i just enjoy the game while being good and hopefully i don't end up trading one for the other.
     
  2. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

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    Update: I will only go on SG for training purposes for 3 full days or be inactive for 3 full days. and if i'm on. i will limit my self to 1.5 hours.
     
  3. Yummy Bubbles

    Yummy Bubbles Active Member

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    Calm down dude. Seriously, I mean I've talked to you a few times and I think the only reason you get so mad is because you're too darn serious all the time. It's good to be serious when it counts, but being 100% serious all the time is a good way to stay nice and salty. Have some fun, at the end of the day SG is just a game. A damn good game at the, but you see where I'm going with this hopefully.
     
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  4. Yummy Bubbles

    Yummy Bubbles Active Member

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    PS: I'm usually ready to play if you want to
     
  5. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

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    After the long break i will now start training again. First priority is play beta and leave notes in here so future viewing.
     
  6. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

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  7. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

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    Axetastic
     
  8. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

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    so played mpgame and cloudking.

    both were annoying to fight against for the same reason.

    their assist left me with limited options.

    I still don't know how to combat eliza at times. especially the skeleton.
    spacing the axe definitely messes up the opportunity to punish.

    Osiris spiral as an assist is very very very strong and against Mpgame i'm having the biggest problem on eliza. Help
     
  9. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

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    man trying to use headless fortune is hard :P
     
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  10. Cadenza

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    New problem arised: beowulf.

    the amount of options he gets is just rediculous and the fact that you can't crossunder j.hp unlike any other move is hilarious. This is certainly one character rose up in annoyance. funny enough any wulf player i talk to think its "fair" which i don't know if they're dead set on their character or not but this is troubling

    1.PW
    2.val
    3. eliza
    4. wulf
     
  11. Colossi

    Colossi THE ONE THAT DODGES

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    Wulf is ridiculous right now. Shit like M/H chair throw in the corner with random hop j.mp or c.lk is annoying as fuck. Also, everything he does is safe.
    Getting cornered? Lemme super myself fullscreen away, and maybe get a shitload of damage if you plan to reset me with IAD things.
    Screwed up confirm? Super safe wulf cannon and maybe a crossup.
     
  12. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

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    Another thing that i need to learn.

    Player having disregard for options that you have. i have a good laugh with beta replays
     
  13. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

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    SO far this week my attitude towards the game is getting better the less serious of a fighter that i take it.
     
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  14. joshb911

    joshb911 Well-Known Member

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    It's not about trying to take the game less seriously it's just about trying to take yourself serious and not worry about other players. I find that helps a lot (but I have not put the time in that you have so take this with a grain of salt plz)
     
  15. Cadenza

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    Why i don't bother voicing shit in beta (open)

    <Luweewu>: well, um... huh...
    <Midiman>: I watched it
    <Luweewu>: "can we try having sneeze be a knockdown" this is why you don't listen to fortune players
    <alexpi>: i thought you didn't listen to fortune players because they play fortune?
    <Fizzxwizz>: I'm gonna be honest I don't like the knockdown or low zoom idea
    <Midiman>: people with bad ideas are universal
    <Midiman>: why would zoom be a fucking low
    <Claws>: like i said
    <Claws>: it wouldn't
    <Claws>: it was
    <Claws>: a
    <Claws>: fucking joke
    <Claws>: *rolls eyes*
    <alexpi>: fuck you and your jokes
    <Claws>: i said my disclaimer at the end
    <Fizzxwizz>: but the problem is claws
    <alexpi>: we're super cereal in here
    <Midiman>: see I didnt even know you made the comment
    <Skarmand>: "Dumb idea"
    <Fizzxwizz>: at least one person took it seriously
    <Midiman>: I just kept seeing it in here
    <Skarmand>: "LOL IT WAS A JOKE!! XDD"
    <Skarmand>: Ninja does this too.
    <Claws>: WHO THE HELL TOOK IT SERIOUSLY?
    <Midiman>: anyways lol fortune having a moving low is about as absurd as well
    <Claws>: i even asked the question and said lol no
    <Midiman>: as cere restanding with j.MK still
    <Claws>: you can even see in the last post
    <Midiman>: Sneeze being hard knockdown sounds like a really shitty hilarious idea too
    <Claws>: lets not.
    <Fizzxwizz>: fortune doesn't even have a lot to do off hard knockdown outside of meaty things
    <Midiman>: I might as well start walking in the beta thread and either give out warnings for shitty suggestions
    <Midiman>: or mock them with my own shitty suggestions
    <Claws>: yes midiman
    <Fizzxwizz>: sounds productive
    <Zari0t>: no
    <Zari0t>: bad midiman
    <Zari0t>: bad
    <Claws>: act like broken loose
    <Claws>: pls do.


    interesting.
     
  16. Hidgerknight

    Hidgerknight I own that horrible place.

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    Uhm... never knew about this, this catastrophy.

    Anyways, back on topic.
    Game's competitive when you want it to be. Never take any game seriously unless you're in some kind of tournament or anything.
    Don't ask me, I only go to a few small-scale casual Skullgirls meetups in Canada.
     
  17. Cadenza

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    memory dump file for later viewing (open)

    <Claws>: and hope for fortune buffs or something
    <Luweewu>: doubt it
    <Luweewu>: and lol fortune buffs
    <Stuff`>: she doesn't really need them
    <Luweewu>: you guys in the beta thread are terrible
    <Stuff`>: but hey if people are showing up to try I'll try too
    <Stuff`>: like why not
    <Claws>: man i could careless
    <Stuff`>: buffs I don't need never hurt
    <Luweewu>: you are being careless
    <Claws>: fortune ain't no more fun and theres' that.
    <alexpi_work>: fortune doesn't need to be fun, robo is coming
    <Stuff`>: yeah headless is boring beyond belief
    <Stuff`>: but still more fun than head-on =/
    <Claws>: that's the funny part
    <Luweewu>: headless is boring so lets make zoom a low, lets make zoom kill armor even though there's nom, lets make sneeze knockdown, lets etc
    <Claws>: ok
    <Stuff`>: never said any of those
    <Claws>: who said make zoom kill armor?
    <Stuff`>: and I do not condone them
    <MrPeck-work>: let's never make zoom a low
    <Stuff`>: because those are straight up dumb
    <alexpi_work>: one of these days, mike is gonna snap and make a build where everyone gets everything they asked for
    <alexpi_work>: and it will be terrible
    <Stuff`>: omega skullgirls
    <Claws>: LOL
    <Stuff`>: the best game 2015
    <Claws>: the thing is.
    <Stuff`>: now at evo
    <Stuff`>: main game
    <Claws>: if you guys say its terrible then come up with suggestions to entertain the fact?
    <Stuff`>: ign 10/10
    <Claws>: *entertain the notion*
    <Claws>: tis prolly the reason why some people rather not even speak in the beta thread [​IMG]
    <Woofly>: Loool S K U L L B O Y S
    <Woofly>: Whens Furtune buffs zoom low please
    <Woofly>: Zoom confirmed into ToD whens
    <Stuff`>: ay
    <Stuff`>: I like this guy
    <Luweewu>: Woofly pls
    <MrPeck-work>: why does ms fortune have to protect her head? why cant the head protect ms fortune and also lead to ToD
    <Woofly>: Furtune headless IAD buffs please, not low enough.
    <alexpi_work>: why would anyone protect their head?
    <Woofly>: Buff please so I can do relentless rushdown with safety net head
    <Luweewu>: lower the damage on the head so it's free
    <alexpi_work>: everyone knows you gotta protect ya neck
    <Woofly>: Protect your penis, thats where all the thinking is done!
    <Luweewu>: give the head hyper armor
    <Stuff`>: I thought my heart was there
    <Claws>: uhuh....
    <Claws>: wtf
    <Woofly>: Make the head a meterless sekhmet
    <Stuff`>: because sometimes it beats
    <J-Boogie>: Head should have its own lifebar
    <Woofly>: It should have its own super bar...and supers!
    <Luweewu>: make the head its own character
    <Stuff`>: I'd like that actually
    <Stuff`>: head is servbot?
    <Luweewu>: except petshop-tier
    <Woofly>: Real talk ms fortune is the most terrible awful boring shadow character ever.
    <Woofly>: Making her stronger wont change that lel
    <Stuff`>: thank you ;__; although I only agree with the boring part
    <Claws>: shadow whut?
    <Stuff`>: like relius litchi thing
    <Stuff`>: I dunno
    <Woofly>: I mean terrible and awful in terms of play style, not her overall strength.
    <Stuff`>: oh
    <Claws>: meh
    <Woofly>: I think she does fine, zoom zoom nom nom sneeze sneeze run around fortune doing things unreadable blabliblublip.
    <MrPeck-work>: a rare glimpse into a headless fortune player's mind
    <Claws>: still waiting on said dedicated fortune player
    <Claws>: or is that just inuchiyo
    <Claws>: the same dude that's better in arcana heart?
    <MrPeck-work>: inuchiyo is a dedicated fukua player. he won evo with her
    <Claws>: .....
    <Luweewu>: it's true
    <Woofly>: Khaosmuffin?
    <Claws>: i'll step out for this portion.
     
  18. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

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    yup i still get angry when someone just presses buttons in the air. the worst part about it is that i have to disprove them 10/10 cause if its 9/10 then they still press buttons.
     
  19. Cadenza

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    Notes:
    Need to use updo the right way(know when to use it)
    find out the matchup of parasoul vs fortune.
     
  20. joshb911

    joshb911 Well-Known Member

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    Learn the art of umehshoryus dude
     
  21. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

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    i'm going to ask you to speak the skullgirls terminology or else i will never understand the words that will come out your mouth.
     
  22. joshb911

    joshb911 Well-Known Member

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    ahh......you need to learn when to throw out a random updo to punish people that are morons. This was made famous by Daigo Umehara I suggest you learn how to utilize it
     
  23. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

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    does it require a read or does it require to be moronic as well? i'd be open to being a moron more often if it gets people off me.
     
  24. joshb911

    joshb911 Well-Known Member

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    you want to do stuff like this:
    Show Spoiler

    When you play a shoto it's not about playing by a formula it's about playing by feeling and by instinct. When you feel like updo will work 8/10 it will work
     
  25. Cadenza

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    when's filia's FADC BRO!?
     
  26. joshb911

    joshb911 Well-Known Member

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    around the same time when fukua gets a shoryuken
     
  27. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

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  28. RemiKz

    RemiKz Well-Known Member

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    For the record, never ONCE did I say to have sneeze be a hard knockdown. I just said knock down, could have been a techable knockdown for all I care.
    I have a huge problem with this as well. Mostly just me being dumb and not calling them out on it each time. You would think you have people conditioned to not press a button but they still do it.
     
  29. Cadenza

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    man i dunno. i can take if my idea is stupid but don't just say its stupid and then not explain why she doesn't need a buff or a nerf. hell not even suggesting stuff but to pop in and say "LMFAO THAT"S DUMB" is irritating
     
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  30. dragonos451

    dragonos451 Combo crafting is fun

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    Several solutions to this problem ;
    - stop caring and keep disproving ;
    - stop playing quickmatch ;
    - don't keep playing against an opponent who just can't learn ;
    - stop caring about the general level of skullgirls players.

    Don't have anyone else to play against and your whole friendlist is either offline, laggy or is playing other games? Welcome in the sg community!
     
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  31. ReSpAwNz67

    ReSpAwNz67 But Mike Z, Where's The OTG?

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    SG is love...
    SG is life....
     
  32. Hidgerknight

    Hidgerknight I own that horrible place.

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    It's all O-furrrrrr now...

    Anyways, how's the Fukua going, Dream?
     
  33. IsaVulpes

    IsaVulpes Just Throw

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    You know who the guy is that randomly posts stupid one liners and never explains anything

    I dooooooooooooo
     
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  34. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

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    won't even go into semantics nor defend points where i felt you're wrong at. ye u rite.
     
  35. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

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    man the more i care less the more fun i'm having. C O U N T E R L O G I C
     
  36. ReSpAwNz67

    ReSpAwNz67 But Mike Z, Where's The OTG?

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    Wow I never realized how much tension people in this community have with one-another...
     
  37. dragonos451

    dragonos451 Combo crafting is fun

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    don't generalize.
     
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  38. CatsOfMsFortune

    CatsOfMsFortune New Member

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    I'm trying to get better with my teams as well as Solo Big Band. If you wanna fight me, I can give you my Steam and we can practise against each other. I can sometimes go for a while and while I'm having my own problems, I still wanna help if I can. After all, I can count our matches as training of my own...however, this means I'll have to reinstall the beta again. ^^;
     
  39. Cadenza

    Cadenza Documentation Expert

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    Nonono.

    The main thing is that the game is always changing meaning a bad thing and good thing people can come up with good ideas but most times its a shitty idea and three years of shitty ideas unfortunately make the community less.... positive to some comments and rather bash them than explain and debate why its bad.

    Which frankly is more of the reason i want the game finished because i know i'm stuck with the game knowing if my character is going to stay shitty or not.

    I also has a belief that just about everyone is pretty bad including i and neve record matches or look at their gameplay. Thats just me tho
     
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  40. dragonos451

    dragonos451 Combo crafting is fun

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    TL;DR :
    don't participate in the beta discussion, don't even read it, stop whining and accept what mikez decides to do.
    Congratulations, you are now able to have fun.
     

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