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The Annie of the Stars Mega Star Cruiser: Giga Dreamy Star Love Redux!!!!!! DREAM COMES TRUE EDITION

I'd gladly vote to take B. Dahlia out and replace her with Annie.
 
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Magma442 said:
I'd gladly vote to take B. Dahlia out and replace her with Annie.
I would most definitely not. Canon story mode is more important, and will actually give Annie something interesting to do when she does eventually get in.
 
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The thing is I feel like with the taste we got with Annie in Beowulfs story leaves a lot of ideas open for an Annie story. It could reveal a lot of interesting lore with her. I really don't understand what we could do with Dahlia.
 
Magma442 said:
The thing is I feel like with the taste we got with Annie in Beowulfs story leaves a lot of ideas open for an Annie story. It could reveal a lot of interesting lore with her. I really don't understand what we could do with Dahlia.
We don't, sure. Alex has said she's important, though, so she's high priority, lore-wise.
 
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Ugh, confession time

Beowulf's story did in fact make me....genuinely...like Annie a lot

Still don't like her gameplay concept at all, tho
 
TechPowah said:
Still don't like her gameplay concept at all, tho
I just really, really hope they take care with her swordplay. That's all I want. She can sparkle like the damn sun, for all I care, but if if her swordsmanship is all anime and fake, I won't be able to enjoy her. They've done a pretty good job at including nice nods to accurate form for other characters, so I'd just want the same for Annie.
 
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Night Phyre said:
I just really, really hope they take care with her swordplay. That's all I want. She can sparkle like the damn sun, for all I care, but if if her swordsmanship is all anime and fake, I won't be able to enjoy her. They've done a pretty good job at including nice nods to accurate form for other characters, so I'd just want the same for Annie.
I'd still want her to be flashy and wild, but functional too. One of her game play inspirations is Sol Badguy and I hope that's only for the clean hit mechanic and not for any visual representation. 'Cause for real, nobody fights like that.
I have faith in Lab Zero though, even Beowulf has a proper wrestling stance and as a former wrestler that pleases me. Although that backwards walk is still a little weird to me.
 
Magma442 said:
I'd gladly vote to take B. Dahlia out and replace her with Annie.
Canon story mode requirement aside I wouldn't want Black Dahlia to get pushed behind Annie. Not only would B. Dahlia give us some much needed lore on the Medici family, but out of all the characters that did get gameplay concept art hers ranked amongst the most interesting. And I'd rather play an assassin with hidden armaments than Sol Badguy with an anime makeover.
 
Magma442 said:
The thing is I feel like with the taste we got with Annie in Beowulfs story leaves a lot of ideas open for an Annie story. It could reveal a lot of interesting lore with her. I really don't understand what we could do with Dahlia.
Black Dahlia is the glue that keeps other story modes together.

She killed Squigly and her family, dismembered Furtune and the Fishbone Gang, kidnapped Minette and the rest of the River King's daughters. She stands firmly in battle pose, ready to be the unfought boss of Peacock's and Eliza's stories. As a former ASG Labs member and the de facto first Anti-Skullgirl created by Geiger himself she has all the opportunity to play a role in the past of ASG characters, while as a Medici assassin and Lorenzo's personal bodyguard she has many reasons to connect with the story of any mob and Circus characters.

The question isn't what they could do with Dahlia. The question is what couldn't they.
 
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I'd love to see how Dahlia would interact with Filia if she ever got a story mode, given she presumably knows Filia is a Medici. Especially if they had to fight for some reason, although hard to see why since Filia's goal to defeat the skullgirl would only benefit the mafia. We know that Dahlia is only loyal to the Medici since they allow her to be as bloodthirsty as she likes, but given their power slip in Squigly and Eliza's stories, maybe she could betray them and go rogue.

Yeah yeah i know, this is the Annie thread. She was cool in Beowulf's story. Now that we have Annie's whole 'i fight skullgirls is jus what i do' deal established it would be cool if her story focused more on her origin story and motivation, her mothers wish and transformation (and possibly defeat at Annies hands??) her bonding with Sagan and his alignment on the Theon issue and her evolution to becoming a hardened, battleworn TV celebrity.

I think it would be cool were Annie to ever be created for the stage to be set in the studios where the Girl of the Stars show is filmed. Most of it could take place on the set but in the corners would be backstage and storage areas, where you could see a dusty unused Bad Wolf Man costume and maybe some other props/backdrops
 
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Night Phyre said:
Real Swordmanship not like Star Killer or Ventus

Well sometimes, the rule of cool is applied in this game just saying. Lab Zero is keen on detail though and I'm sure she won't be holding her sword backwards unconventionally. Though I'd expect some Sailor Moon anime type ish cause that's kinda the joke with her serious personality

@ everyone else, Seriously why does everyone only bring up Sol Badguy when we talk about Annie? Fun fact Kidd Thunder is also an inspiration doesn't mean she's gonna throw her hands up Raiden style and shout "Girl of the Stars!" There's other gameplay inspirations and other characters she can be similar to though I wouldn't say that the characters play like anyone but themselves
 
@Karlaaldana . I would second that motion, but I'm starting to fall in love with Venus' character as a whole, kinda wanted to see how crazy sick her character would have been on the count that Mariel really wanted to work on her...DDB don't hurt me
 
PKStoopKid said:
@ everyone else, Seriously why does everyone only bring up Sol Badguy when we talk about Annie?
Because when I look at Annie, the discussion surrounding her proposed mechanics, and her concept art I see more Sol than anyone else. Sure she has other inspirations but she looks like she'll be Sol Badguy v3.0. There's nothing wrong with that since Squigly is Johhny v.2.0 and she's great. And just like Squigly I don't think Annie will approach anything near a 1:1 copy of Sol because of her other inspirations and L0's impeccable record for designing characters inspired by other FG characters.
Annie Concepts.jpg
 
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PKStoopKid said:
@PaperBag_Sniper I respect this answer

Edit: @PaperBag_Sniper 1st things first, this isn't me trying to be an ass but I noticed Platinum Trinity as an inspiration. Its evident with the sparkly attacks but what if she plays like Platinum and acts like Sol?
Platinum could serve as a base for combos, be a reference to having a "magical girl" type character, or for the aesthetics of some of her attacks. It could go a few ways.

And like FakeangeL said, she was going to get clean hits which is a staple of Sol Badguy and HOS.
 
Basically, Clean Hit is a mechanic where your character's weapon has two different sets of hitboxes during moves, and sweet-spotting your attacks like you would in Smash Bros. gives the attack different properties or better damage, etc.

So in a random example, and this might be a bit more extreme than the mechanic is used to, but imagine Annie having a stabbing move where hitting with the normal hitboxes just deals normal hitstun, but getting a Clean Hit staggers the opponent.
 
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Thank you, the smash example helped alot. I understand most of it just not the hit box part or how clean hit exactly supposed to get off but its not important. I'll just find a video I learn better through visuals and physical playing
 
PKStoopKid said:
Thank you, the smash example helped alot. I understand most of it just not the hit box part or how clean hit exactly supposed to get off but its not important. I'll just find a video I learn better through visuals and physical playing
If you want an example, sol has an attack where his fist needs to make contact with (roughly) the chest area of his opponent in order to get a wall bounce, not hitting that clean hit will produce a weak wall bounce that can be air teched and not ideal for combos.
 
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Cellsai said:
Just add an explosion on a clean hit.

For Sol's Clean Hits he often just sets the opponent on fire to really show it was a clean hit.

I've been thinking about effects like that for a while now. Rainbow explosions with stars plonking out of them. I should get a few concepts going right away.
 
TechPowah said:
If anything, the opponent needs to be the one getting sparkled on Clean Hit, since it would signify them getting blasted with stardust power.
Or they could be ON FIRE. The game already has fire effects so it'd be easier.
Also I never get tired of it.
 
Fire isn't very space-y

Maybe coat them in the special rainbow effect Robo gets from Det mode when using Metroid palettes
 
I mean it's not inherently tied to the image of space, like stars and solar systems are

maybe a visual little thing can be stuck on like the band-aid Val puts on people she pushblocks
 
Is that a confirmed thing or just a possibility
 
Annie confirmed too edgey original the character.
 
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