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The canon info thread - what we know

Osmiumsmith said:
Afh...

I like this game, I like the story, I like the characters... But this comment, made me remember that the only guys who flirted or showed active interest in girls were the mobsters (sleazy balls) in Filia's and Fortune story mode, Taliesin (psychopath) and Adam (dogged guy).

There is a lack of guys flirting in a healthy way in fiction. It is always those stereotypes, or the uphill battle to conquer the special one heart, or almost dying after crossing kingdoms to save her.

Needed to say this.

Also, the witch hunt comparison is not very good considering that witches didn't exist in real life and the Skullgirl is a very dangerous existence.
perhaps it is meant that very powerful girls or girls with super natural abilities (such as Squigly) are targeted, remember how Squigly was not even doing anything the skullgirl ordered but was yet attacked by parasoul? same kind of thing.
 
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Osmiumsmith said:
Also, the witch hunt comparison is not very good considering that witches didn't exist in real life and the Skullgirl is a very dangerous existence.
But the fear and paranoia is.

"It's bad enough we've got those @%#^@in' ferals here, now that...that new girl that moved into the city. She's...she's kinda weird aint she? What the...I...swore Smitty saw her in the grave yard! Is...is she plannin' something? Does she know where the skullheart is an' is scoutin' areas to see where the most dead are?"

Okay, my badly worded example aside, I feel that in real life we had people with crazy levels of paranoia killing those they suspeced of witchcraft. The issue is the persecution would come from the flimsiest of excuses. In the game, people have enough overt predjudices, but if a woman's a bit off, they might think of who knows what and try to "interject" before it's "too late".

I can see BS reasons for enforcing an old boys club in things "Archaeology? Hell no, lady! We don't wants ya ta touch a relic and get mystic-ized!"

"Advanced magic theory? Heavens no, you may tap into forces beyond your understanding!"

I don't think everyone has always known what causes a Skullgirl, even, are we sure Annie (a hunter of the very things) knows? People are just itching to be offended and paranoid, so, I feel that would produce more than a few avenues for misogyny. Just my messy thoughts
 
we have to remember that it might not seem like a witch hunt because in the current story there actually is a skullgirl, i bet further into the story in a time without the skull girl we will see the oppression of powerful girls
 
Clawsome Bombs said:
Gigan boss fight would be AWESOME. I knew they were supposed to be big, but just the face?
Oh man, oh man would that be cool.
Gigan fights sound very Mahvel-ish in the way that Apocalypse or Onslaught worked. It could be cool, but after the trouble with Big Band's sprite on consoles, i don't think it'll happen.
 
Zazz said:
Gigan fights sound very Mahvel-ish in the way that Apocalypse or Onslaught worked. It could be cool, but after the trouble with Big Band's sprite on consoles, i don't think it'll happen.
Except it wouldn't have to be designed in such a way that it would have to hold two characters (and assists) along side it.
 
DeathArcana said:
perhaps it is meant that very powerful girls or girls with super natural abilities (such as Squigly) are targeted, remember how Squigly was not even doing anything the skullgirl ordered but was yet attacked by parasoul? same kind of thing.

That was less about her being a girl and more about of being an undead in a place where there was a war against the undead.

Shockdingo said:
But the fear and paranoia is.

"It's bad enough we've got those @%#^@in' ferals here, now that...that new girl that moved into the city. She's...she's kinda weird aint she? What the...I...swore Smitty saw her in the grave yard! Is...is she plannin' something? Does she know where the skullheart is an' is scoutin' areas to see where the most dead are?"

Okay, my badly worded example aside, I feel that in real life we had people with crazy levels of paranoia killing those they suspeced of witchcraft. The issue is the persecution would come from the flimsiest of excuses. In the game, people have enough overt predjudices, but if a woman's a bit off, they might think of who knows what and try to "interject" before it's "too late".

I can see BS reasons for enforcing an old boys club in things "Archaeology? Hell no, lady! We don't wants ya ta touch a relic and get mystic-ized!"

"Advanced magic theory? Heavens no, you may tap into forces beyond your understanding!"

I don't think everyone has always known what causes a Skullgirl, even, are we sure Annie (a hunter of the very things) knows? People are just itching to be offended and paranoid, so, I feel that would produce more than a few avenues for misogyny. Just my messy thoughts

DeathArcana said:
we have to remember that it might not seem like a witch hunt because in the current story there actually is a skullgirl, i bet further into the story in a time without the skull girl we will see the oppression of powerful girls

The Skullheart really is bad PR for women, but considering the many sources of power that the world has (parasites, weapons, technology, training...) I don't think people will not be suspicious of a guy acting funny. And the fear is with good reason, who can assure that the superpowered person you just bumped will not explode your jaw? His/Her morals? Morality is usually the first victim of too much power.
 
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Okay finally got off my butt and updated the first threads! Left some stuff out that are game-related trivia rather than lore information.
 
TheMightyBox said:
Okay, I think this is everything.
  • There are various side effects to synthetic parasites but no universal ones. The first successful parasite was put on a burn victim to replace her skin, and she now prefers to wear a mask.
  • The kids in the back of Lab 8 are orphans with conditions that would have had trouble leading a regular life without Lab 8's help. One of the reasons Lab 8 originally went renegade was to prove they could help humanity outside of making weapons. The kids are written off as test subjects in order to justify taking care of them. The same was done people like Big Band and Peacock.
  • Hive's Beezle Bomb is a mix of an implanted modifier and her suit, so she could take the suit off and be more or less normal, but still have access to her powers. The triangle on her head is a reference to dorsal ocelli.
  • Boy's can't do much with the Skull Heart. They can look at it, punch it, yell at it, polish it, show it off as a trophy, turtle wax it.
  • The Black Egrets are open to people from any and all walks of life.[/SPOILER]

I am at least ecstatic that half of my headcanons involving Lab 08 were correct. Especially the reason why they went renegade as well as how Beezle Bomb works. Also apparently you can turtle wax a skullheart. The mental images are....amusing.
 
Brain Drain is still a person. His brain is what is left on that machine body and he has psychic powers. He’s really smart and has been on the lab for a long time. Hes not the main leader, B.Dahlia mentions another guy, Gaigar(?). She was severily injured and this last guy put her together again. She was always “rough around the edges”.

http://skullgirls.com/game/world/

"Gaigar" refers to Dr. Victor Geiger, the founder of Lab 8. It's neat that he canonically rebuilt Dahlia, I thought Dr. Avian would have done most of that stuff...
 
I was thinking the same thing about the grammar.

And the sheer lack of Annie and Beowulf questions.

Seriously they got like one each.
 
Denizen said:
Woah where did all this information come from?
Check for the audio link under that list. Rainbow Kitty got an hour long call with Alex for her IGG contribution just like Maji not too long ago.
 
DDB said:
And the sheer lack of Annie and Beowulf questions.

Seriously they got like one each.
I finished reading them all and you're right they got only one question each and they aren't even good answers.
  • Annie would have glitter and rainbows in her attacks, lots of sparks.
  • There aren’t much details yet on Beowulf, aside from his macho man attitude.
AS IF WE DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW THAT!
 
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I mean sure, we got a LOAD of Annie questions in Maji's, but man Beowulf's getting jack.
 
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To be honest Beowulf was just a mentioned wrestler in Peacock's story, so it is possible he wasn't actually developed to be an important character. Alex is probably trying to come up with material. The same would happen with Stanley, Ottomo, or Yu Wan.
 
The option to donate to the proper tier and get a full hour of Annie/Beowulf questions was there. Would be rather inappropriate to complain that people who did donate wanted other questions to be answered instead.
 
Phish Food o3o said:
To be honest Beowulf was just a mentioned wrestler in Peacock's story, so it is possible he wasn't actually developed to be an important character.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT BEOWULF ISN'T AN IMPORTANT CHARACTER, FISH BOY?
 
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I think he's saying that Alex is saying Beowulf isn't a important character.
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Speaking of which, I simply must commend Alex's superb taste in character choices.
 
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Denizen said:
ARE YOU SAYING THAT BEOWULF ISN'T AN IMPORTANT CHARACTER, FISH BOY?
Did I not also mention MY own favorite character is somewhat irrelevant too? And the answer is yes. I mean no offense, but it does seem logical. Alex didn't even draw Beowulf moves when he did that concept art sheet; hence to further advance the theory.
That being said I have nothing against Beowulf and his fans. I'm just the lost Yu Wan fan.
 
For all we know, Alex didn't have that much going for Beowulf at the time of the game's initial release, and didn't want to make anything concrete before the IGG characters were decided.

Aslo, he could be waiting to reveal a lot of Beo's stuff in-game when he comes out.
 
remember when he got all those Big Band concepts back in like
july
it'll probably be like that with the rest of the DLC crew
 
Thanks for the new info!

Interesting that Miss Fortune likes small dogs (Kimlinh loves corgis and shiba inus, so I'm wondering if that's where Alex drew from)

The info about Valentine's eye is interesting, I remember people debating on the significance of red eyes and wondering if it meant something mystical or super human, now we have confirmation that she's been altered in some way, so that may not be her natural eye colour at all.

Interesting that Dhalia is that old and "shouldn't be alive". She must have been really messed up.

So glad they didn't digitally alter Rich Brown's voice. It also gives him a bit more humanity in spite of his condition (think Robocop's voice getting less artificial as he grew as a person in the first movie)
 
well the only filter Rich has on his voice for Big Band is probably a tin can
or a bowl
rather than any digital filters
 
yeah that
that's what I always thought
especially since the skullheart don't even care
like you could wish the skullheart out of existence and it would nope and kill you
 
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The game is fixed right off the bat.
But what if the girl doesn't want to make a wish? Skullheart just gonna be nagging her 24/7 like that Mt Splashmore scene from The Simpsons? The girl is in shower or trying to sleep and that thing hovering incessantly going "State your wish." and the girl just finally snaps "I wish for you to shut the hell up! ....Oh fuck." and Skullheart's all like "Gotcha!"


Geography question while I'm at it - is there a SGverse equivalent of Japan or Asian Culture is all represented in the Dragon Kingdom? I'm curious since Val is a weeaboo.
 
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This means Val watches the Japanese dub of Hoshi no Shōjo Annie-kun
 
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kun is used for boys.
Know something about Annie you'd like to share with the rest of us? o_0
 
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-kun is also used for females in a professional business setting
annie is 1000000% business all the days
 
Yeah, I'm not a big Beowulf fan, and since Annie didn't make it in to the cast, I didn't come up with many questions for her. Like I said, I was getting so nervous/sick over the whole thing, I almost passed on the call to someone else lol So most of the questions came from a few friends who compiled lists for me. :)

As for Makross' grammar....I might take it upon myself to go and correct it all. I'm a grammar nazi.
 
Balder said:
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Geography question while I'm at it - is there a SGverse equivalent of Japan or Asian Culture is all represented in the Dragon Kingdom? I'm curious since Val is a weeaboo.
One of Val's likes is "Eastern culture", so that at least implies that the SG equivalent of Japan or Asia is situated in the East like in the real world. Given Alex's other answers though it doesn't look like he's thought much about the specific details.
 
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From what I've seen and recall of things that come from the Dragon Kingdom in-universe, I'd think it's safe to say that the assumption it represents East Asia would be pretty spot-on.

We have Chinese (Feng), Korean (Yu-Wan)... Squigly's old concept art was Chinese-influenced but also had some clearly Indian elements to her Dragon Kingdom motif, and then we have Valentine and the other ninjas who'd be styled after Japanese elements.

Also, to clear up ambiguity about this post:

Flotilla said:
http://skullgirls.com/game/world/

"Gaigar" refers to Dr. Victor Geiger, the founder of Lab 8. It's neat that he canonically rebuilt Dahlia, I thought Dr. Avian would have done most of that stuff...

The Anti-Skullgirl Labs have been around for decades, and not just 8, either. Geiger founded the entire institution itself--all 9 labs (1-8, and Lab 0). At the current point in the timeline, all of the labs save for 8 and 0 are defunct. Avian is only the director of Lab 8, and no one ever said which Lab it was that Dahlia was specifically created in. We also don't know how long Avian has been a member of the Labs for. Dahlia could very well have been created before he joined up.

Considering he isn't mentioned by any of the other characters whatsoever, it's debatable if Geiger is even still around anymore. After all, Dahlia is rather old, and she hasn't been a part of the Labs for quite some time. It could be that her knowledge is simply outdated. Now, whether that's in terms of Geiger still being a part of the labs, or even in terms of being alive, I can't say. But I'm getting into speculation moreso than canon now.

That might be a good thing to bring up to ask Alex if anyone else ever does a lore interview with him. The history of the Labs is interesting.
 
LKArtillery said:
From what I've seen and recall of things that come from the Dragon Kingdom in-universe, I'd think it's safe to say that the assumption it represents East Asia would be pretty spot-on.

We have Chinese (Feng), Korean (Yu-Wan)... Squigly's old concept art was Chinese-influenced but also had some clearly Indian elements to her Dragon Kingdom motif, and then we have Valentine and the other ninjas who'd be styled after Japanese elements.
Yeah, that's the thing that got me wondering. There are things that we can clearly associate with Chinese culture (even if the Squigly concept art is old, the wushu aspects of her fighting style remains) that can be traced to a location, id est, the Dragon Kingdom.
Meanwhile, Valentine has Japanese-like motifs and maybe event interests. Are those all part of the Dragon Kingdom as well, thus it being a "amalgamation" of Asian culture elements that are popular in the West or is there a fantasy culture counterpart to Japan?
I wouldn't be surprised if there is and it's something like "the Tiger Empire" (given how those animals are depicted as fierce rivals in both Chinese and Japanese folklore as well as the real life animosity between those countries).

I'm not saying the Tiger Empire is my new headcanon...but the Tiger Empire is my new headcanon.:PUN:

LKArtillery said:
Now, whether that's in terms of Geiger still being a part of the labs, or even in terms of being alive, I can't say.
I think Geiger is well alive since I do believe it's been confirmed that Brain Drain is Lab 0's #2.

But you are right, this is getting into the field of speculation. Tiger Empire.
 
Balder said:
I think Geiger is well alive since I do believe it's been confirmed that Brain Drain is Lab 0's #2.

But you are right, this is getting into the field of speculation. Tiger Empire.

Ah, I was forgetting about that! Yeah, with that in mind, it's very possible then that Geiger is the director of Lab Zero. I suppose it'd make sense he'd be the one calling the shots behind the "evil" lab, what with the Labs in general having gone into unethical practices under his leadership.

Kinda makes me wonder if we'll ever see any other specifically Lab Zero projects. It'd be fun to have a faction full of direct counterpart rivals to Lab 8's. P:
 
Toyotomi did attempt (read: fail miserably) to conquer mainland Asia but a Takeda Shingen expy would probably make more sense since...you know, Kai no Tora. (Takeda Nobutora expy even better since he was a sick fuck.)

Would be interesting to have them be carnivore mammal ferals, opposed to the Dragon Kingdom's fish folks.
 
Sanoblaze said:
too late fortune, yu-wan, minette, and and ottomo.
No, those are humanoids with some animal-like features (e.g. pointed cat ears or gills).

Furries are animals with some humanoid features (e.g. ability to speak or smile, upright walking).
 
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