Valentine vs projectiles?

Discussion in 'Valentine' started by Buddy, Oct 30, 2015.

  1. Buddy

    Buddy New Member

    Location:
    NY
    PSN:
    TheSchwarr
    XBL:
    TheSchwarr
    Valentine
    Filia
    What do i do?

    vs Peacock w/ double hornet bomber
    problem i have here is that the only option i feel i have is to use QCF K to get in which is unsafe

    vs Fukua w/ big band Punch assist
    in this case Fukua usually does jump projectile then MK shadow on landing which big band just pushes you back (you cant QCF K an assist cause it will stop after the assist, or it will just hit the assist and not the opponent)

    vs double w/ Robo Fortune HP Beam
    you simply cant beat double's parasol bullet in anyway, and your eating chip damage like crazy with the beams and it pushes you back

    wtf do you do here?
     
  2. Liam

    Liam ... Administrator

    Location:
    West Canada
    Steam:
    Skarmand
    PSN:
    Skarmand
    Robo Fortune
    Double
    First, watch this video for fighting against Peacock.
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    Here is some Valentine footage vs the best Peacock you can analyse.
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    Vs Double and Fukua, you have to make use of your Super Jumps and Air Dashes.

    Valentine can be above the height of H Beam, H Brass, M/L Luger, and H/L/M Dart.
    Even Air H Dart has a hard time hitting Valentine when she's at max height.

    Try and get above the projectiles.
     
  3. infected melon

    infected melon Earth, Fire, Wind, Watermelon

    Location:
    Germany
    Steam:
    infmelon
    Valentine
    Valentine
    Valentine
    tiger knee heavy bypass vs peacock, works errytime
     
  4. Lex

    Lex Skill pending

    Location:
    Scotland, UK
    Steam:
    Lex
    PSN:
    Ilexyellowdog
    Valentine
    Filia
    Double
    I find a super jump/double jump heavy cross (confirm with h bypass if possible) often catches zoners off guard. Other than that just watch the videos Skarmand posted and find someone to practice against who plays these teams.
     
  5. JDbbx

    JDbbx Active Member

    Valentine
    Cerebella
    Valentine is extremely mobile and should have very little trouble advancing on zoners.

    As has been said before, HK Bypass > Scalpels is a great tool to cover space if you see an opening, but you can also double jump > jMK > airdash > jMK to go over projectiles and get from fullscreen to jabbing distance in a very short amount of time.
     

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