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Wall of text ahead: basically me expressing my feelings of current Beowulf after having a week or so to test them in beta matches and in the lab. I figured out why I constantly feel like I'm not enjoying myself playing Beowulf in actual matches anymore, I think it has to do with how much I...

Yeah I feel like they're fine, especially considering you're almost expected to do a few parrys to get through some zoning stuff.

Yeah but Beowulf gets one chance for it is why I think it should be better than most. Considering it has a very predictable range without the short hop potential I also felt like removing the overhead was a little much, it feels like just another combo tool now rather than anything I'd want to...

I mean this combo in particular is lights only and wall bounces with tech are significantly less + against heavier characters. I like the concept and the combo itself is pretty neat to look at, Hope to see some tech that affects higher weight characters soon from people (including myself).

Something just feels awkward about wanting to get a hit, and then throwing that hit away to build a resource and throw them full screen, getting a hit in sg is death for some characters like double in a lot of situations so it feels weird being expected to go back to full neutral so much.

Buffs or nerfs doesn't particularly matter when saying that I'd pick retail Beowulf at this point just because he's more enjoyable to play. This new Beo just doesn't feel as FUN because I feel like if I don't want to play a specific way he's balanced around I'm punished for it? I realize that I...

I want to see people use the changes in a way that isn't gimmicky with assists :( Like people were being creative with the blitzer change but mike didn't like the free mix ups off hype so that's gone, and short hop chair drop is also gone so that's sort of another fun combo tool I was playing...

Yeah but having beowulf by himself in his current state seems really dangerous. Like building hype without an assist and retaining it doesn't seem like an easy thing at all alone anymore. I'm not saying he's worthless alone, but I definitely won't be playing him anchor any time soon

I mean that's true but you could already combo off of it using assists, and at this point it looks like mike is expecting you to combo off it with assists considering the example he showed to explain how he did too much damage used an assist that did just that. So it feels somewhat of a moot...

I feel like the comparisons are a bit misleading, considering the changes to the combos which then require assists and no longer work on heavy and medium weights, Such as the Chairless Crouching heavy punch and then pick up with Chairless J.hp onto chair with assist is strictly a lights only...

I mean yeah when it comes to resource building combos, having excella or A train are going to outperform compared to others, like how squigly can get really good damage + resources using A train assist but not really as much from other assists.

Can you specify a change you are unhappy with and why you think its detrimental in the interest of the game health?

Yes. The example he showed during salty last night of the damage nerfs Beo is receiving.

Yeah honestly the damage nerfs seem extremely harsh all things considered since he didn't even get 8K for 3 hype + assist in the example combo, where he get 8k and hard knock down off retail assists with no hype mechanics. I'll have to try them myself obviously but being less able to set up...

Alright put me in coach Excuse to drink this weekend obtained. I recommend many (reliable) substitutes

You can also do this, which is free on the entire cast in the corner.

Sure why not :-)

I try to avoid participating in drama for obvious reasons, but honestly I've been in a lot of communities since I started using the internet and this kind of drama is way too familiar to me from many other forums groups I've participated in and it just seems to be going in a way that worries me...

I'm always a good backup for laughs. I'm gonna be watching anyway. Also I'll try and ask backupp if he will be a backup before he blocks me for it.

PC 2nd Encore When I go into the challenges for some reason my controls reset back to default for my controller, but only while menuing the challenges. I rebound my controller to swap lk and mk which works for all other parts of the game, when I'm choosing to start a challenge it says LK to...