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Maybe this is just semantics but I think if your tier list goes below B-/C+ or there is a gap like A+ to B for you in this game you need to go play some other fighters and remember what a truly bad character feels like.

Man this is great. Even though I don't play Double this is one of the most helpful posts in the whole thread for me personally.

I'm failing to see how increased damage on fireballs and keeping the bouncing property is nerfing her zoning. I was really excited about these changes and was considering picking her up but maybe I'm missing something.

Does anyone have a Squigly specific combo? I use pretty basic universal bnb's and I find even those way too erratic on that character. Forgive my laziness but I assume others have had this problem as well, and I bet their combos are a lot better than whatever garbage I would make up.

In a match today I called Cerecopter assist and it ended up behind my opponent's Filia. The Filia did st. HK and it won clean over Cerecopter. I checked this thread expecting to see a hitbox behind Filia on that attack but now I have no idea how the hell it happened.

I don't know this topic turned into giving Val an unreactable command grab but sign me up. Also on thinking about it I think I'm fine with the Dynamo thing. Excellebella and/or Devil Horns would have done the trick in all those videos dekillsage posted. I don't know if any level one should...

Awesome, good to see Lab Zero getting something they deserve for once.

Dynamo is(was?) probably the best level 1 in the game so it's not shocking to see it nerfed. I thought the justification for all of Bella's normals was the motion her arms make though. Seems odd to break tradition just for this move.. Can't really speak to Fukua changes but I really liked the...

Hmm yeah I didn't have an anti air(My team symbols are out of date if you're wondering...). Looks like the only thing to do is wait for Eliza. For what it's worth I think this matchup is even at best for Val 1 on 1. The Shuriken nerf hurt her zoning and she can't match Parasoul up close.

Speaking of meter gain can we talk about how Peacock builds meter about twice as fast as the rest of the cast? Man that character is a joy to play against.

I was going to post this as a general question, but since I was using Val mostly I'll post it here. I'm wondering what you can do about the j. lp/hp/air throw mixup from Parasoul. I was told you're supposed to upback to beat those buttons but that gets eaten up by air throw which is the same...

Exactly, that's why I'm getting tired of reading about how Val needs nerfs. Especially when I know there are plenty of Val players and she doesn't seem more successful than any other character.

Let's take those 2 characters in context to Valentine. USF4 is a 1 on 1 game with 40+ characters. Kazunoko was in grand finals of a stacked major only a few weeks ago with Yun and there was at least 1 Yun in top 16 of EVO. BBCP is again 1v1 with 20+ characters. There were 8 Kokonoes in top...

Meanwhile at EVO...1 Val in top 16(some dude named duckator), 9 Doubles and 7 Filias. When are the results going to start mattering for this character with no weaknesses?

Congrats to Dekillsage and all the top 4 for putting on a great, if brief, show. Everyone needs to remember that despite the setbacks, Skullgirls getting on stream at all is a positive thing. Hating on the Tekken community or Madcatz is pointless. I say this even though this top 16 was one of...

Sigh... At least KOF finals are on right now. It was supposed to be a main game and only got top 8 on stream so at least the SG community isn't alone in getting shafted for screen time. I like Tekken for the record, and I enjoyed their tournament...YESTERDAY.

I'd like to thank this thread for making me pick up Cerebella.

I was thinking about a compromise for Eliza's super. If the black out starts at the chopping part it would make that seem more unique and powerful while not over-using the effect for the whole super. I'm reluctant to post things like this but I might as well give my thoughts about aesthetics...

Out of curiosity I checked the rest of the command grabs in training mode and MGR is the only non-super grab to have invul frames. I still kind of question why that move needs it but at least I know now. I will admit that even though I use Bella sometimes(mostly for assist) I'm bad at fighting...

Yeah I was just throwing out assist characters. It's funny, I just realized Double is like Strider and Doom mashed together and Filia is Magneto and Psylocke. That's not a coincidence I'm sure.