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  1. JuuseBox

    The Unofficial Official Beta Discussion Thread

    Elaborating on this, even as much as people cap on this characters strengths. The fact that characters like dahlia, squig, headless fortune, and others can raw tag him in and access damage ridiculously outside their own scope is quite ridiculous. Being able to access his damage and best in...
  2. JuuseBox

    The Unofficial Official Beta Discussion Thread

    This is gonna be a super controversial take, but if the point of changes are to illicit interaction with all of Umbys stages, then I think this partial reversion would be contrary. Umbrella is a resource management character. I think managing her resource properly should be important. With...
  3. JuuseBox

    The Unofficial Official Beta Discussion Thread

    Also while I'm here can anything be done about how polarizing point robo is? Dahlia - Robo is one example. I think pea got changed for being just as unfun to interact with, leaving robo as is with similar highs just shifts the narrative imo.
  4. JuuseBox

    The Unofficial Official Beta Discussion Thread

    Yea I just think with how hunger exists in its current state, the optimal play pattern versus Umby is just to drain her hunger. Right now she's very analogous to sekmet where the risk reward of interacting with sekmet was too poorly in the defenders favor, so you would block and camp sekmet to...
  5. JuuseBox

    The Unofficial Official Beta Discussion Thread

    No, that's fine. I'm saying whiffing L luger has a longer lock out than other Lugers on contact. I think it might be something like L Luger existing even when off screen preventing you from shooting. If needed I can post a video
  6. JuuseBox

    The Unofficial Official Beta Discussion Thread

    Could we maybe perhaps address the delay on L Luger whiff? If you L Luger and it whiffs there's a delay until you can do it again. Even if you wait past the recovery.
  7. JuuseBox

    The Unofficial Official Beta Discussion Thread

    Why though? If she’s to be stealing meter you’d need to steal a significant amount that stops dhc. In that case you’d want fireballs to do it so you can build it up over the match. The amount of meter your one time use specials would need to be to steal an actual significant amount of meter...
  8. JuuseBox

    The Unofficial Official Beta Discussion Thread

    I’m not the biggest fan of adding back health drain to shadows. I understand wanting to limit the effectiveness of a tool that can create safe mixups, but Item drop is a tool most analogous to shadows and pea only gets the damage scaling. Fukua has both health drain and hard scaling on shadow...
  9. JuuseBox

    The Unofficial Official Beta Discussion Thread

    Man I think Dahlia is an incredibly strong character and H counter is one simultaneously one of the most expressive and strongest defensive tools I think the game has. Escaping offence AND defense on reaction or clearing the screen of projectiles with counter + assist is insanely strong and I...
  10. JuuseBox

    The Unofficial Official Beta Discussion Thread

    No worries, I agree with you by the way. I do think theres room for Fukua to get love. I just want to be clear that I think alot of Fukua players do exceptionally old school mix, when she has stuff that are vastly more rewarding and a decent amount of team comps that enable it.
  11. JuuseBox

    The Unofficial Official Beta Discussion Thread

    Only giving my 2c on Fukua since ive played / labbed the character. Fukua has bad things going for her: 1. Additional scaling on mixups with shadows granted by both flat combo scaling reductions and combo limitations. 2. Funneled into a low/throw or neutral/footsie game with abysmal return on...
  12. JuuseBox

    The Unofficial Official Beta Discussion Thread

    It’s a bit off topic, but I don’t like how intertwined the concept of mashing is with SG. It’s a personal gripe rather than something I wish or expect to change. And to be fair I think like a lot of the true dirt in the game happens post hit anyway. A lot of pre hit mix feels otherwise tame...
  13. JuuseBox

    The Unofficial Official Beta Discussion Thread

    Gonna double post after rereading instead of editing my post. I didnt want to post my character patch thoughts because the game around the characters would be changing alot with undizzy and health changes, so I wanted to see how it would play out first before I give opinions, but: Squigly: I...
  14. JuuseBox

    The Unofficial Official Beta Discussion Thread

    I dont think removing 2 touches is the direction I'd like to see skullgirls go. Obviously there are exceptions for the characters who's damage or meter gain are so far out of the norm that they can kill off a majority of their neutral confirms, but if a character gets a clean touch, converts...
  15. JuuseBox

    The Unofficial Official Beta Discussion Thread

    Bring back old fire
  16. JuuseBox

    Black Dahlia Alpha/Beta Gameplay Discussion Thread

    I've been meaning to write a post for a minute, but honestly everytime I feel solid about dahlia I discover something that changes my opinion. The character is super cool and with more lab time and optimization she does things very similar to the existing cast while still only being in beta...
  17. JuuseBox

    The Unofficial Official Beta Discussion Thread

    Exactly this. The move gets to be used in more situations + you can build strategies around more meter build in neutral via safer Lugers
  18. JuuseBox

    The Unofficial Official Beta Discussion Thread

    I was thinking about the initial balance adjustments before / during Annie release. Unlike everyone else it seems, I'm not too mad at the Bella j.hp nerfs or the Double L Luger nerfs. They aren't nice, and this isn't to say I'm happy with them, but at the time I thought they were reasonable. If...
  19. JuuseBox

    Black Dahlia Alpha/Beta Gameplay Discussion Thread

    Just sharing my thoughts on Dahlia after playing her for the past few days and at Evo a bit. First, please don't touch the chip stuff yet. Let it play out. The conditions to chip require otg and the empowered knockdown on 2hp. If it needs to be adjusted you can gate those. It's also extremely...
  20. JuuseBox

    The Unofficial Official Beta Discussion Thread

    I just wanna play the same version of sg as the competition. I really feel like I have clown makeup on when I play against fortune / pea / annie