I feel like one more chance is fair.
We don't need a international player base at first, we can test the waters with just us East Coasties(tm) and see how it goes.
Alright. Well, I don't know if I could go this year anyways since I'm pretty low on vacation days, but I can help spread the word about it.
i may or may not be able to do ECT this year (i hadn't heard ECT for SG was really anything so I hadn't budgeted going) but if it ends up being good I'd like to go in the future, one of the big reasons I'm disappointed about DTN falling through is that I really like having an event around this time (july/august) and we're moving away from big e so no summer jam
The last ECT I went to was the one I met you at. Where we were was I guess acceptable at the time, I just assumed they were getting better. I was planning on going to the next ECT, it'd be nice if we have a legit area to be.
I really wanted DTN to be a thing. Even if it just was a local major, no WC or MW heads, I'd be fine. I'm really not sure about the guy running it, but it would have been nice to have an event like that here.i may or may not be able to do ECT this year (i hadn't heard ECT for SG was really anything so I hadn't budgeted going) but if it ends up being good I'd like to go in the future, one of the big reasons I'm disappointed about DTN falling through is that I really like having an event around this time (july/august) and we're moving away from big e so no summer jam
I think this is a freakin' amazing idea. I would also suggest that a "Let us know if we can help in any way to make the SG tournament better" would go a long way in this kind of a reply.if the community got together and presented the TO with some information, or a formal address, I think it could have helped a lot. As the SGC, an address to a TO could look something like: "Thank you very much, DTN TO, for the opportunity of Main Stage and a Pot Bonus. However, this year doesn't seem to be possible for many SG players. This tournament may only garner 10-20 players, but if you ensure the tournament is well run for those few players, the rest of the SGC will take notice and strongly consider turning out for DTN 2017. Missteps with Prior TO's have left the community plotting out which events are known to treat us well, so that we all can have a good time, so having your SG attendee's walk away happy can see to it that your event is prioritized next year."
You mean Big E events? I mean. Yeah. Winter Brawl was literally BYOC btw, we had to provide the setups (and no one said that we would until the event started).
if a, say, official/unofficial Skullgirls account contacted DTN publicly and we all left a like on the comment/commented saying "this is accurate" or something, that's more along the lines of what would probably work. Cause it's easy to say "you don't know what you're talking about, just stream the game" to a streamer (as much as that probably shouldn't be the case), but if a community formally contacts you, it seems different. It's like the difference between getting an invitation from a tournament organizer and getting a invitation from Capcom, I guess is the best analogy I can make.
So as someone who hasn't kept up with the tournament scene in awhile but still wants to come out to show my support for the community, I can only make it out to events as of next year and 7probably only two events. As someone in the midwest, I dunno if any of the events listed here are in decent distance from me. Combo Breaker is doable and I had blast at it last year (couldn't make it this year due to issues with my job situation), so what event do you all think someone like me should look into? I keep seeing everyone mention GUTS 4 and CEOtaku, so I'd assume them unless there's a better altnernative.
I really want to get back into showing up for events like these, as trash as I am at SG. Its just tough to find time to go out and enjoy the community in person sometimes D:
The way I see it, instead of having one huge Mecca event (EVO), we are split up into two big events (CB and CEOtaku). This is advantageous as it gives us two chances to have people from the general area to attend a big event without sacrificing huge expenses. However, it has the draw back of the more diehard players potentially having to purchase plane tickets and sacrifice time of work twice. To do that three time would be insane and could split our player base. It would be pretty shitty to have missing members of the top 8 because peoples finances are being spread so thin.To just make it as simple as possible:
SG is very alive, we have a lot of players.
Our players have limited money.
We can afford to do 3 or 4 majors a year.
If you put a tournament in between two of our hopefully biggest majors (CB and CEOtaku), thanks for the support but we can't give you what you want.
Also, I'm perfectly fine with the gap in between CB and CEOtaku..
If we lost a member for Ceotaku because they spent their money to go to DTN that would kind of suck.
TL;DR we don't need 10 majors a year and it's not realistic.
Combo Breaker gave us main stage streamed Top 16, Top 8, and two separate after-hours community streams, and that's after we grew at the event over the course of 4 years, with lots of relationship building with TOs, by myself and others. That kind of growth is what we want for all the events we're eyeing, but let's actually let them grow before we start moving priority away from our biggest, most centrally located, and hospitable event.
This seems like a good concise list. A schedule of the timeframe of majors we are attending would be great. Can we get something like this pinned on the forum to point TO's to in the future?
... I have no faith in these events. But, if he's asking for codes... maybe...? I really don't want to go back to another Big E event, but it's a pretty convenient event if we get treated nicely since we have so many people already in and around Philly. I'll... pay attention to the twitters and facebooks to see if he says anythign special about it. Anyone else think it's worth giving one more shot?
This seems like a good concise list. A schedule of the timeframe of majors we are attending would be great. Can we get something like this pinned on the forum to point TO's to in the future?
... I have no faith in these events. But, if he's asking for codes... maybe...? I really don't want to go back to another Big E event, but it's a pretty convenient event if we get treated nicely since we have so many people already in and around Philly. I'll... pay attention to the twitters and facebooks to see if he says anythign special about it. Anyone else think it's worth giving one more shot?
I can definitely do this, but I think it'd need more information than what you quoted (say, each of the points from Liam's post as a subheading with a few sentences explaining why below) and a prospective list of tournaments would be good as well (probably Kai's list of nobody has any objections).
If this gets done well enough, I could probably post it on SRK, too, to get it out there to TO's and the public in general. Something like this would actually be news worthy, honestly, like a mini community version of the CPT.I can definitely do this, but I think it'd need more information than what you quoted (say, each of the points from Liam's post as a subheading with a few sentences explaining why below) and a prospective list of tournaments would be good as well (probably Kai's list of nobody has any objections).
If somebody wants to write that up then its pretty easy to either make it a news article or a standalone page (like this one, but actually... y'know... finished) with an easy to remember url, and then also create a permanent link from this section to there. Let me know what you want and I'll make it happen.
Nah dude, I'm done. I've given Big E events so many second and third and fourth chances and they're still always bad. I want to say it was over two years ago that I first said "I will never attend another Big E event", but I kept going anyways because the community kept making the events huge. Now that they're not huge anymore there's no reason for me to go.... I have no faith in these events. But, if he's asking for codes... maybe...? I really don't want to go back to another Big E event, but it's a pretty convenient event if we get treated nicely since we have so many people already in and around Philly. I'll... pay attention to the twitters and facebooks to see if he says anythign special about it. Anyone else think it's worth giving one more shot?
Big E has done that multiple times. Since I started going we've never had more than 2 set ups per pool, main stage(DOA gets it every time ayyy. It's a cool game), people randomly don't get paid on time/at all, pot bonuses have been forgotten about(TFC), I never got my medals/trophys for SJ and NEC and that's super annoying because those are the only events last year where I actually beat Sonic.
I really think we should use the way we are treated at GUTS as a baseline. They gave us main stage at GUTS 3 and there were (I think) 8 entries and this year, even before preregistration opened we're given a $300 Pot Bonus and main stage. Every person was paid out properly and immediately, and we got out Top 16 (essentially everyone that signed up) on stream. That's the way events need to work
That's actually probably my fault she mixed them up, I talk about GUTS 2 every chance I get.
That's fair, GUTS 2 was an amazing experience. I lose it every time I think about how they gave us that massive lecture hall and Spooky's stream to run an 8 man tournament.
I don't know why its so hard to tell the community something like "if you get 32 people you get ___", if you get 64 you get ____" etc. ComboBreaker was the only event in recent mind who gave us the chance for greater things if we showed up as a community, no other event is willing to do that, because even if we do we're still in the secondary room away from the main stream like always.