Know Your Skullgirls Top Players (a wide-eyed newbie resource)

[Kai]

I think it would be both fun and helpful (to new players) to create a cohesive list of Skullgirls competitive players. I'll start with the EVO players, and move down from there. Basically, the idea is to list everyone that's been noteworthy on the competitive side. I'd like to be able to point to a list of players to watch for people just getting into the community.

If you know of a player not currently listed that you think should be listed, just say so below.

NAME

• REGION
• DATES ACTIVE
• TOURNEY PLACEMENT AT MAJORS
• TOURNEY PLACEMENT AT NON-MAJORS
• KNOWN FOR: _____
• VOD Link: _____

HERE is a very helpful tweet @render made a while back that tells of the EVO top 32 for the last three years.

Spoiler

 

[Kai]

Spoiler: ACTIVE TOP PLAYERS (2015)

alphabetical order

dekillsage

• New York
• 2013-present
• EVO '14 - 1st | NEC15 - 1st
• ECT '14 - 3rd | GUTS 3 - 2nd
  
• KNOWN FOR: Parasoul/Double/Cerebella, then Fukua, and recently started maining Beowulf
• VOD link: EVO Top 4, July 2014

Domo

• Pacific Northwest
• 2012-present
• EVO '14 - 9th
• KNOWN FOR: Fukua/Double

Duckator

• Chicago
• 2011-present
• EVO '12 - 1st | EVO '13 - 1st | EVO '14 - 9th | UFGT8 - 4th | UGFT9 - 1st | UFGTX - 3rd
• Frosty Faustings VI - 1st | Frosty Faustings VII - 3rd
• KNOWN FOR: Valentine/Filia/Double, recently dropped Val in favor of Eliza
• VOD link: The Duckator Kumite, April 2014

Elda Taluda

• Midwest/Midsouth
• 2012-present
• EVO '14 - 3rd | UFGT8 - 9th | UFGT9 - 3rd | UFGTX - 1st
• Frosty Faustings VII - 1st
• KNOWN FOR: Painwheel/Fortune/Cerebella
• VOD link: UFGTX Grand Finals, May 2014

guitalex

• South Carolina
• 2012-present
• EVO '14 - 5th
• KNOWN FOR: Fukua/Squigly/Big Band
• VOD link: vs Inuchiyo @ EVO, July 2014

Inuchiyo

• Japan
• 2012-present
• EVO '13 - 5th | EVO '14 - 9th
  
• KNOWN FOR: Ms Fortune/Filia

keninblack

• East Coast
• 2012-present
• EVO '13 - 7th | EVO '14 - 13th | UFGTX - 4th | APEX '14 - 2nd
• KNOWN FOR: Parasoul/Double

KhaosMuffins

• Tennessee
• DATES ACTIVE
• EVO '13 - 4th | EVO '14 - 17th
• KNOWN FOR: Ms Fortune

McPeanuts

• East Coast
• 2012-present
• EVO '14 - 17th
• Frosty Faustings VII - 2nd
  
• KNOWN FOR: Peacock ranged pressure (Double/Big Band anchor)

MegaManDS

• SoCal
• 2011-present
• EVO '14 - 17th
• KNOWN FOR: Fukua/Parasoul/Painwheel

Mr Peck

• UK
• 2012-present
• EVO '14 - 13th
• KNOWN FOR: rushdown Peacock (Filia+Bella anchor)

NCV

• Chicago
• 2012-present
• EVO '14 - 5th | UFGT8 - 7th | UFGT9 - 5th | UFGTX - 9th
• KNOWN FOR: Painwheel/Parasoul

Negus Eyoel

• West Coast
• 2012-present
• EVO '12 - 7th | EVO '14 - 9th | SCR '14 - 3rd
• Winter Brawl 9 - 5th
  
• KNOWN FOR: Painwheel/Double, recently dropped Double

RemiKz

• West Coast
• 2012-present
• EVO '14 - 17th
• KNOWN FOR ______

Skarmand

• BC, Canada
• 2013- present
• EVO '14 - 13th
• Vancouver Underdogs 1st
  
• KNOWN FOR: Peacock/Parasoul, recently focused on just Parasoul

SonicFox

• East Coast
• DATES ACTIVE
• EVO '14 - 4th | NEC15 - 2nd
• ECT '14 - 1st | GUTS 3 - 1st | Winter Brawl 2015 1st
  
• KNOWN FOR: Filia/Bella/Fukua/Eliza

Swiftfox-Dash

• REGION
• 2012-present
• EVO '13 - 5th | EVO '14 - 2nd
• KNOWN FOR: Peacock/Bella

TwerkTeam

• East Coast
  
• 2013-present
• NEC15 - 3rd
• Winter Brawl 9 - 7th
• KNOWN FOR: Fukua/Filia
• VOD link: vs drewski @ Online Tournament, March 2014

WingZero

• SoCal
• 2012-present
• EVO '14 - 25th | SCR '13 - 1st | SCR '14 4th
• KNOWN FOR: Filia

Woofly

• UK
• 2012-present
• No major tourney placements, skill apparent + vouched for by UK's top traveling player Mr Peck, and EVO 2014 champ @dekillsage
  
• KNOWN FOR: Ms Fortune/Eliza/Filia/Valentine/Squigly + Parasoul anchor

worldjem

• East Canada
• 2012-present
• EVO '14 - 7th | UFGT9 - 5th | UFGTX - 7th
• Toryuken 3 - 1st
• KNOWN FOR: Peacock/Fukua/Filia

Spoiler: INACTIVE TOP PLAYERS (pre-2015)

alphabetical order

Chilldog (?)

DacidBro

Rylander

Severin

Winnie (?)

 

[Kai]

Spoiler: ONLINE WARRIORS (past & present)

dead list, won't be updated, would be way too long
alphabetical order

Luna - ACTIVE

• LOCATION: ______
• KNOWN FOR: ______

Uzu - INACTIVE

• Mexico
• KNOWN FOR: Cerebella/Parasoul
• VOD link: The Uzu Kumite, Feb 2014

 

[mcpeanuts]

This seems like it's gonna make people upset. Someone's gonna just barely miss the cutoff between noteworthy and not noteworthy and that guy is gonna be like "what the HECK this list is DUMB".

 

[Kai]

This seems like it's gonna make people upset. Someone's gonna just barely miss the cutoff between noteworthy and not noteworthy and that guy is gonna be like "what the HECK this list is DUMB".

Maybe. I'm going almost entirely on results from majors, so I think it's pretty fair.

 

[mcpeanuts]

Maybe. I'm going almost entirely on results from majors, so I think it's pretty fair.

If you're going based on majors you may wanna remove Skyking. I mean you have him under inactive players but still.

 

[IsaVulpes]

"Competitive Play" is Major Tournaments and nothing else? Call it "Tournament Entrants" or what have you, then?

 

[dragonos451]

RIP Europe that has no tourney then.
Except if we count EU skullbats top 8?

 

[Kai]

If you're going based on majors you may wanna remove Skyking. I mean you have him under inactive players but still.

I was unsure about any placements he might've had. If he had none at all, than I suppose I'll delist him.

"Competitive Play" is Major Tournaments and nothing else? Call it "Tournament Entrants" or what have you, then?

RIP Europe that has no tourney then.
Except if we count EU skullbats top 8?

I'll add another bullet for non-major tourney placements.

 

[Cadenza]

how many majors do you have to attend to apply for this list.

 

[Kai]

how many majors do you have to attend to apply for this list.

Its not about how many you attend, it's about how many you place at. I'd count top 16 at EVO, top 8 at another major, or top 4 at anything else as noteworthy. If you've got some of those achievements, then you're likely of the caliber needed be listed here as examples of high level play to new players. Even if it's something like consistently placing in the top 3 of Skullbats, it's worth at least mentioning.

 

[dapurplesharpie]

Kinda with Peanuts here.

@Dreamepitaph placed at (I think) Top 8 at NEC, as well as @drewski

I kinda fail to see how this is going to encourage/help newcomers at all. Most of the players that played at EVO haven't played in awhile, so I don't really see how they can give that much advice on a game that has changed so drastically since last EVO.

There are obviously exceptions, but I don't really see this post being as helpful as you think besides providing dick bragging rights.

 

[MysteriousJ]

Noteworthy?

@severine at evo 2013

/thread

 

[Kai]

I saw a guy post for weeks on /r/Skullgirls about how he was training in Skullgirls so that he could hopefully compete in a real tournament. I congratulated him on a recent video where he overcame an opponent he'd previously been beat by, and I joked, "hey, you'll be able to take on dekillsage any day now."

He said, "who?"

That's why I'm making this list. It's not for the benefit of the people listed on it, it's for those who don't yet know who their top players are, the players they should be watching. Furthermore, I cant help if people want to argue over the threshold for inclusion, or their interpretation of why this list exists. It's not for people to feel good about themselves for placing at one or two small tournaments.

 

[Rocco]

<3
Nothing wrong with writing down history.

 

[mcpeanuts]

idk I mean I know the SRK rankings are kind of a joke but they seem like they'd work for what you're trying to do. They even implement a system where points from tournaments decay over time so e.g. Chilldog no longer gets a hojillion points for placing top 3 in back to back Evos.

 

[Mr. X]

Inchinyo still plays.

Kind of a poor "qualification" since majority of play and events is online for this scene.

 

[Kai]

idk I mean I know the SRK rankings are kind of a joke but they seem like they'd work for what you're trying to do. They even implement a system where points from tournaments decay over time so e.g. Chilldog no longer gets a hojillion points for placing top 3 in back to back Evos.

I thought about this, but I honestly feel like they're too much of a joke to be usable. Fragmented, incomplete, etc. My goal here is twofold:

- provide a single list for players to look at that clearly shows top player names, reasons why you should care to watch them, and which characters they can mentor you from afar on
- feed new players into Skullheart by hosting that list here and showing that said top players frequent the forum

 

[erkicman]

You know what? Here's something I think will be cool that could invite involvement from a lot of different people... and tell a coherent story about the SG Competitive Scene: a documentary like "A Year of Injustice!"

Spoiler

Watch this. A big part of this is posting tournament highlights with results, so you don't have to go through the process of ranking players since the results speak for themselves. It also features things like the discovery of infinites, F-Champ talking shit to the NRS Community prior to launch, pop-offs, etc... all to tell a coherent story of the life and times of Injustice.

We can include things like MikeZ yelling at all of us about how to beat HK Hornet Bomber assist, highlights from the Indiegogo campaign and EVO donation drives, and MikeZ himself physically chasing me out of an EVO Panel for asking if "Real Soviet Announcer" was going to be an actual thing!

 

[Kai]

Inchinyo still plays.

Kind of a poor "qualification" since majority of play and events is online for this scene.

Hence the question mark next to his name. I'll move him.

I think the list above, compiled mostly of tourney results, is actually a fairly good representation of the talent in Skullgirls. Is there some online-only top player that *would* be at this level but never attends live events? Please post them, I would definitely humor that.

 

[mcpeanuts]

Hence the question mark next to his name. I'll move him.

I think the list above, compiled mostly of tourney results, is actually a fairly good representation of the talent in Skullgirls. Is there some online-only top player that *would* be at this level but never attends live events? Please post them, I would definitely humor that.

Uzu, Luna

 

[Kai]

You know what? Here's something I think will be cool that could invite involvement from a lot of different people... and tell a coherent story about the SG Competitive Scene: a documentary like "A Year of Injustice!"

Spoiler

Watch this. A big part of this is posting tournament highlights with results, so you don't have to go through the process of ranking players since the results speak for themselves. It also features things like the discovery of infinites, F-Champ talking shit to the NRS Community prior to launch, pop-offs, etc... all to tell a coherent story of the life and times of Injustice.

We can include things like MikeZ yelling at all of us about how to beat HK Hornet Bomber assist, highlights from the Indiegogo campaign and EVO donation drives, and MikeZ himself physically chasing me out of an EVO Panel for asking if "Real Soviet Announcer" was going to be an actual thing!

Feel free to take the lead on that [emoji14]

I'm actually going to compile all of this into a fun little graph showing performance over time, but a full documentary is a lot of fucking work.

 

[Mr. X]

If its visibility and good play, add Magicman from Korea and Poccola from Japan and Caio from Brasil and Woofly and Peck in the UK

 

[Kai]

Uzu, Luna

Really? I wasn't under the impression they were at *that* level. I'll take your word on it, if you really think so.

Sounds like I need to add an, "online warrior," section as an addendum.

 

[dapurplesharpie]

Is there some online-only top player that *would* be at this level but never attends live events? Please post them, I would definitely humor that.

Longshot? (AND MIDIMAN)

 

[Stuff]

Pfft if Longshot was in everyone would be too.

 

[mcpeanuts]

Really? I wasn't under the impression they were at *that* level. I'll take your word on it, if you really think so.

Sounds like I need to add an, "online warrior," section as an addendum.

Last time I played Luna the score was 20-18 when we stopped, so if I'm worth noting she would have to be too

Uzu bodies me

 

[Negus Eyoel]

uzu was godlike for a while, i have no idea what's happened to him as of recent. luna is also pretty solid and she's competent with hella characters.

also if this is a list to show newcomers characters we can potentially help them with, then you're probably better of taking double off my part, since i dropped her a little while ago

 

[IsaVulpes]

Woofly is the best

 

[Fosh]

Luna

• KNOWN FOR: Squigly (f.HP stancel) x6

[E] so I don't get banned for shitposting, I'll say that wingzero should probably be on this list since he won SCR and got top 8 at NEC

 

[Cadenza]

I was 3rd place at nec and top8?! At winterbrawl.

 

[erkicman]

Feel free to take the lead on that [emoji14]

I'm actually going to compile all of this into a fun little graph showing performance over time, but a full documentary is a lot of fucking work.

Of course this'll be a lot of work. My guess is that this will take a year to put this together at the very least... but you know what? Let me get back to you on this.

 

[Kai]

Last time I played Luna the score was 20-18 when we stopped, so if I'm worth noting she would have to be too

Uzu bodies me

Fair enough. That's the kind of thing I was looking for.

also if this is a list to show newcomers characters we can potentially help them with, then you're probably better of taking double off my part, since i dropped her a little while ago

Thank you. I'll note that.

so I don't get banned for shitposting, I'll say that wingzero should probably be on this list since he won SCR and got top 8 at NEC

Thank you, I'll list him.

I was 3rd place at nec and top8?! At winterbrawl.

I know you're on a really goofy kick lately and you're all about the lulz or whatever, but can we please exhibit a sense of realism? If I beat you roughly 40% of the time, do you think it's fair to say you're a top player? This isn't a rhetorical question, or an insult. If you feel like you should be up there, answer seriously.

 

[erkicman]

I know you're on a really goofy kick lately and you're all about the lulz or whatever, but can we please exhibit a sense of realism? If I beat you roughly 40% of the time, do you think it's fair to say you're a top player? This isn't a rhetorical question, or an insult. If you feel like you should be up there, answer seriously.

He beat WingZero to get top 3 at NEC. That puts him in the upper echelon of players in my book.

 

[Kai]

He beat WingZero to get top 3 at NEC. That puts him in the upper echelon of players in my book.

And I beat Duck in a local Chicago tournament, once. Am I a top player? I sometimes beat NCV, too. Should I be on this list?

How about this, twerk: If some other top players advocate for your inclusion like McPeaunts did for Uzu or Luna, I'll add you. I'm fine with that.

 

[dekillsage]

I wouldn't count Apex. I would count ECT and GUTS 3 though.
ECT 3rd Place, GUTS 3 2nd Place
SonicFox won both those tournaments. Kenin got 2nd at ECT and Peanuts got 3rd at GUTS 3

If Winnie is inactive then so is Kenin. Neither have competed since Evo last year.

 

[Kai]

I wouldn't count Apex. I would count ECT and GUTS 3 though.
ECT 3rd Place, GUTS 3 2nd Place
SonicFox won both those tournaments. Kenin got 2nd at ECT and Peanuts got 3rd at GUTS 3

If Winnie is inactive then so is Kenin. Neither have competed since Evo last year.

Thanks for the results rundown.

I listed Pat as active because I see tweets from him talking about his training for this upcoming tourney season. If winnie's doing the same, I'd want to list him as active, too. Is he?

 

[erkicman]

Quick question: if the larger FGC has trouble defining a Major from a regional from a mid-major etc... how does the SG community define what's a Major and a non-major?

 

[CaioLugon]

wtf rikers is there

 

[Kai]

Quick question: if the larger FGC has trouble defining a Major from a regional from a mid-major etc... how does the SG community define what's a Major and a non-major?

Honestly? Registration numbers for all games. I'm including both, so what we call them isn;t so important. The only thing I'm not accepting is local tourneys (like Chicago Heart, Maxout, and BARWARZ, for example).

wtf rikers is there

I'm actually probably gonna strike him from the list. I included him in the first draft because he got top 32 at EVO Last year. I think that's literally all, though, so... I dunno. Compared to the numerous wins by other players, I don't think that's enough.