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Painwheel MDE Combo Thread (Page 3 Onwards)

MegamanDS said:
Do you know what I am referring to though? I try to fly but she just looks like she is falling when doing a 2nd buer
I think I do yes. Its because when you're inputting L buer in the air, you fly downwards due to the inputs of QCT.
 
MegamanDS said:
Do you know what I am referring to though? I try to fly but she just looks like she is falling when doing a 2nd buer
Don't forget to learn a carry combo eventually. It's a bit more practical and easy(decent damage from across the stage into the corner) than corner combos while doing a little less damage.
c.lk,c.mk,s.hp xx L Buer xx fly
6j.lk
c.mk xx L Buer xx fly
3j.lp
s.mp
(air)L Buer xx fly
9j.mp(4) xx (Air)L Buer
OTG s.lk ,s.mk xx H Buer xx Fly
j.hp(4)
s.lp, s.lk, s.mk, s.hp xx L Buer xx Deathcrawl
c.lk, c.mk, s.hp xx L buer xx fly
3j.lp
L buer xx fly
6j.lk
s.lk, s.mp
j.mk xx L buer xx fly
6j.mp
s.mk xx H buer xx fly
5j.hp(9j.hk vs heavies) xx L buer
s.lp, s.lk, s.mk, s.hp xx L buer xx Deathcrawl
 
Lex said:
Here's an 8.7k corner combo:
cr.LK, cr.MK, cr.HP, H Buer, Fly
L Buer
HP (OTG), L Buer, Fly
j.LK
MK, H Buer, Fly
j.HP*
LK, MK, H Buer, Fly
9j.MK
LP, LK, MK, HP, L Buer, Deathcrawl
*replace with j.HK, for heavies

These were both taken from the compendium, which has a few other combos that do slightly less if you don't like these ones for whatever reason.
Is there one for heavys? HP (OTG) after fly buer doesn't work on heavy
 
There are more combos in the compendium so feel free to check there to find the combos that you like best. This is the corner combo I use which I think is universal:
cr.LK, cr.MK, cr.HP, H Buer
(9)j.MK, L Buer, Fly
L Buer (OTG), Fly
(6)j.LK
MK, HK
j.MP, L Buer, Fly
(9)j.LP, j.MK, j.HP
LP, LK, MK, HP, L Buer, Deathcrawl
It does 8.4k.
 
MegamanDS said:
Is there one for heavys? HP (OTG) after fly buer doesn't work on heavy
This is an easier version of the combo(Very similar damage though). The otg l buer is the biggest improvement as the move is faster than s.hp. Doing this on heavies is a little hard, but possible. Notice your position on the second buer. You want to be a smidge down while doing it so you can get to the ground faster and have an easier time getting the combo.
CaioLugon 8.7k corner
c.lk, c.mk, c.hp xx H buer xx fly
(air)L buer,
otg L buer xx fly
6j.lk, s.mk xx H buer xx fly
j.hp*
s.lk, s.mk xx H buer xx fly
9j.mk, j.hp
s.lp, s.lk, s.mk, s.hp xx L buer xx Deathcrawl
*Substitute for j.hk on heavies
 
This is very team-specific, but here's a Painwheel->Peacock tag combo for people who use L george assist:


c.LK>c.MK>s.HP>L nail>fly df+j.LP, and then:

(HEAVIES: Cerebella, Eliza, Beowulf, Double, Big Band)
s.MP+L george, (no delay) j.MK fly f+j.LP>j.MK, c.LP>charged c.HP>tag
- Tag whiffs on Cerebella because her crumple stance is thin, so just take the hard knockdown

(THIN LIGHTS: Squigly, Painwheel)
s.MP+L george, DELAY j.MK fly f+j.LP>j.MK, c.LP>c.MK>charged c.HP>tag

(OTHER LIGHTS: Filia, Fukua, Peacock)
s.MP+L george, DELAY j.MK fly f+j.LP>j.MK, c.MK>charged c.HP>tag

(WIDE STANCE CHARS: Ms Fortune, Robo Fortune, Valentine, Parasoul. i.e. the characters who stand with their feet 10 meters apart)
s.HP>L nail, walk forward, max range s.MP+L george, then do the HEAVIES combo for Parasoul/Robo and the OTHER LIGHTS combo for Ms Fortune and Valentine
- Tag whiffs on Valentine because her crumple stance is thin, so just take the hard knockdown

...and then as Peacock, after the tag hits: OTG c.LK>c.MP>delayed c.MK>c.HP>M bang>argus


Thanks to Huffy for finding the Filia/Fukua/Peacock variation and Triblue for finding the wide chars variation. All I did was adapt those two combos to find variants that worked consistently on the rest of the cast.
 
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What is Painwheel's typical BnB? I'm trying to reference this video that was posted a page back but it feels like I'm doing all of this very blind; did Painwheel's artwork change? I swear that first combo contains a button I can't visually identify (right after the very first re-jump / fly ?) Halp? D:
 
cr.LK, cr.MK, HP, L Buer, Fly, (6) j.LK, cr.MK, HP, L Bauer, Fly, (9) j.LP, j.LK, cr.LK, cr.MK, HP, L Stinger, dash, LP, LK, cr.MP, HP, L Buer, Deathcrawl.

It still works.
 
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Two quick combos on what you can do after landing a charged CH c.hp. Not max but easy enough for good damage, and universal.
 
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So is there a BnB combo made after the double flight cancel got patched out?
 
I tried to make one for you, don't know if this is the most optimal.

Painwheel HI combo 10.8k
c.lk c.mk s.hp xx L buer
L buer xx fly
9j.lp xx H buer
jump forward j.mk xx L buer xx fly
fly forward 6j.mp
s.hp xx M buer xx fly
6j.hk
s.mk xx H buer xx fly (whiffed 2j.lk)
c.lp s.lk s.mk s.hp xx L buer xx Death Crawl

This works corner to corner and I think it is universal.
Also, I've seen some Painwheels do a throw after L buer, but this allows the opponent to tech.
 
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Colelegante said:
I've been searching for a Painwheel combo with the new Hatred Install. Does anyone have one?
From the previous page

CaioLugon said:
Slightly improved version of that corner carry and a corner combo


c.lk c.mk s.hp L buer
air H buer
ground H buer fly
j.mk L buer
otg s.hk
j.mp L buer fly
j.hk
s.lk s.mk M buer
c.lp s.lk s.mk s.hp L buer deathcrawl

11229 dmg




c.lk c.mk c.hp H buer
air L buer fly
air L buer
otg M buer fly
9j.mk H buer
j.mp L buer fly
j.hk
s.lk L buer fly
full charge 8j.hp
c.lp s.lk s.mk s.hp L buer deathcrawl

11742 dmg
 
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Triblue said:
I tried to make one for you, don't know if this is the most optimal.

Painwheel HI combo 10.8k
c.lk c.mk s.hp xx L buer
L buer xx fly
3j.lp xx H buer
jump forward j.mk xx L buer xx fly
fly forward 6j.mp
s.hp xx M buer xx fly
6j.hk
s.mk xx H buer xx fly (whiffed 2j.lk)
c.lp s.lk s.mk s.hp xx L buer xx Death Crawl

This works corner to corner and I think it is universal.
Also, I've seen some Painwheels do a throw after L buer, but this allows the opponent to tech.
Wow, already did the combo on training mode, it is sick as hell. Thanks a bunch, Triblue!
 

c.lk c.mk c.hp H buer fly
unfly air L buer
otg L buer + bomber fly
charge 8j.hp
s.mk H buer fly
9j.hk s.mp
j.lk air L buer fly
j.mp
c.lp s.lk s.mk s.hp L buer super

9247
 
Here are some combos I've been working with Fukua (H Drill) / Painwheel (M Pinion). I'm not sure if other people have come up with better combos and I'm not certain this is 100% optimized but, here goes:

(also I use f.normal to denote something is done from flight mode and the previous move is flight canceled)

Fukua + Painwheel / Painwheel + Fukua Combos

MIDSCREEN

NORMAL HIT

Fukua + Painwheel Assist (M Pinion)

c.LK ,c .LK , s.MK , s.HK ->MK Shadow + Call M pinion -> run s.HP ->j.HK -> s.MK , s.HP -> j.HP , j.HK -> s.LK , s.MK , c.HP -> HK Drill -> Drill of My Dreams

6,932 damage (2v2)

j.HK -> s.MK , s.HK ->MK Shadow + Call M pinion -> run s.HP ->j.HK -> s.MK , s.HP -> j.HP , j.HK -> s.LK , s.MK , c.HP -> HK Drill -> Drill of My Dreams

7,239 damage (2v2)

CORNER CARRY

NORMAL HIT

Painwheel + Fukua Assist (H drill)

c.LK , c.MK , s.HP -> s.LK Buer -> 3f.LP -> s.LK Buer + Call H Drill -> 9f.HP (you need to fly forward for little bit first while Fukua is drilling) -> s.MP -> j.MK -> j.LK Buer -> 6f.MP ->s.MK ->s.HK Buer -> f.HK -> c.LP , s.LK , s.MK , s.HP -> s.LK Buer -> Death Crawl

8,424 damage (2v2)

j./f.MK -> c.MK , s.HP -> s.LK Buer -> 3f.LP -> s.LK Buer + Call H Drill -> 9f.HP (you need to fly forward for little bit first while Fukua is drilling) -> s.MP -> j.MK -> j.LK Buer -> 6f.MP ->s.MK ->s.HK Buer -> f.HK -> c.LP , s.LK , s.MK , s.HP -> s.LK Buer -> Death Crawl

8,739 damage (2v2)

CORNER

NORMAL HIT

Fukua + Painwheel Assist (M Pinion)

c.LK , s.MK , s.HK -> LP fireball or MP fireball + Call M pinion -> s.HK -> MK Shadow -> backdash s.HP -> j.HP , j.HK -> s.LK , c.MP , c.HP -> s.MK , s.HK -> HK Drill -> Drill of My Dreams

7,192 damage (2v2)

j.HK -> s.MK , s.HK -> LP fireball or MP fireball + Call M pinion -> s.HK -> MK Shadow -> backdash s.HP -> j.HP , j.HK ->s.LK , c.MP , c.HP -> s.MK , s.HK -> HK Drill -> Drill of My Dreams

7,872 damage (2v2)

Painwheel + Fukua Assist (H Drill) (for this one I think heavies might pop out of f.HP)

c.LK , c.MK , c.HP -> s.HK Buer -> f.MK Buer + Call H Drill -> s.LK Buer -> f.LK -> s.MK -> s.HK Buer -> f.HK -> s.LK , s.MK -> s.HK Buer -> f.HP -> c.LP , s.LK , s. MK , s.HP -> s.LK Buer -> Death Crawl

8,759 damage (2v2)

j./f.MK -> c.MK , c.HP -> s.HK Buer -> f.MK Buer + Call H Drill -> s.LK Buer -> f.LK -> s.MK -> s.HK Buer -> f.HK -> s.LK , s.MK -> s.HK Buer -> f.HP -> c.LP , s.LK , s. MK , s.HP -> s.LK Buer -> Death Crawl

9,074 damage (2v2)

Fukua + Painwheel DHC Combos (BFF into HI)

CORNER

NORMAL HIT

Fukua Starters
Starter A
j.HK->s.MK , s.HK->LP fireball or MP fireball->BFF
Starter B
c.LK , s.MK , s.HK->LP fireball or MP fireball->BFF
Starter C
j.MK->c.LK , sMK , s.HK->LP fireball or MP fireball->BFF

Painwheel DHC ender (for lighter characters you need to delay the f.LK->j.MK Buer a bit)

(DHC) HI->c.HP (full charge)->f.HK Buer->j.MK->j.LK Buer-> 3f.LK-> j.MK Buer->s.LK->s.LK Buer->s.MK->s.HK Buer->f.HP->c.LP , s.LK , s.MK , s.HP -> s.LK Buer -> Death Crawl

15,825 damage (2v1) with Starter A

15,435 damage (2v1) with Starter B

15541 damage (2v1) with Starter C

12,167 damage (2v2) with Starter A

11,897 damage (2v2) with Starter B

11,948 damage (2v2) with Starter C

15,825 damage (2v3) ToD with Starter A

15,445 damage (2v3) with Starter B

15,541 damage (2v3) ToD with Starter C

2nd DHC to Drill of My Dreams

17,249 damage (2v1) with Starter A

17,039 damage (2v1) with Starter B

17,145 damage (2v1) with Starter C

13,399 damage (2v2) with Starter A

13,099 damage (2v2) with Starter B

13,180 damage (2v3) with Starter C

17,195 damage (2v3) ToD with Starter A

17,039 damage (2v3) ToD with Starter B

17,145 damage (2v3) ToD with Starter C

2nd DHC to Twice Shy

18,692 damage (2v1) with Starter A

18,302 damage (2v1) with Starter B

18,408 damage (2v1) with Starter C

14,372 damage (2v2) with Starter A

14,072 damage (2v2) with Starter B

14,153 damage (2v2) with Starter C

18,458 damage (2v3) ToD With Starter A

16,669 damage (2v3) ToD With Starter B (wtf?)

18,408 damage (2v3) ToD With Starter C


Don't know anybody the plays this team but, maybe this helps?
 
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Don't make huge posts like that without spoilers my dude lol
 
CaioLugon said:

c.lk c.mk c.hp H buer fly
unfly air L buer
otg L buer + bomber fly
charge 8j.hp
s.mk H buer fly
9j.hk s.mp
j.lk air L buer fly
j.mp
c.lp s.lk s.mk s.hp L buer super

9247
that's a pretty combo dude good lord
 
I need the legendary krackatoa again


FIND HIM, MAKE HIM TEACH ME DAMAGE.

The problem is working with Robo, her damage output is odd and tends to touch normals pw will use once she's tagged in which isn't good. Finding damage requires knowing what buttons not to track and what undizzy to get at while also maximizing damage robo can do before pw is tagged in. Without using heads, it's proven to be quite the doozy for me.

I often feel like letting robo continue after the ground chain would just result in less damage due to undizzy and ips and shared normal usage between the two.
 
I remember him telling me off for my unoptimal midscreen.

I think it looks good. You followed the golden rule of buer pretty well. I think you might be able to do more damage in the second combo by making it more like the standard carry by doing buer immediately after s.mp. Also, use c.lp instead of s.lp.

I don't think Robo has anything that comes close to the efficiency of buer.

I guess it could be worthwhile if you can get heads.

What could improve these combos is adding Robo laser assist.
 
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