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Shin Megami Tensei and Persona

Is it time to burn my dread?
 
English P4AU trailer
Nothing new except hearing how some of the dub cast sounds.
 
DDB said:
Is it time to burn my dread?

I cannot say for certain 100% he will be playable (albeit it certainly seems likely), I can guarantee you will see him in the Story Mode. On that, I have no reservations. This is especially true when the character's messianic ethos is taken into account. His parallels to Jesus cannot be undermined.

He sacrificed his life by crucifiying his soul to conquer death by preventing the accumulated malice/sin of mankind from summoning everlasting destruction upon itself.

His Ultimate Persona is literally named "Messiah", and the game's compendium notes:

"Appears before Judgment Day to save the virtuous. He is a universal figure, appearing in myths around the world. Many stories involve his death and rebirth."

Makoto appeared on"The Promised Day"/The Fall ("Judgment Day") to save humanity ("saves the virtuous"), merges with the universe and becomes the sole user of the Universe arcana ("is a universal figure"), has died, but has yet to experience a "rebirth": the entire point of this quest with Elizabeth. On top of that, The Answer already confirmed the Great Seal was unnecessary.


Metis: Nyx's awakening means the destruction of everything...but think about it. If she's that powerful...how was she contained before he became the seal?

Fuuka: Well...someone else must've...

Metis: What about before humans ever existed?

Mitsuru: What are you getting at?

Metis: As I understand it...Nyx is neither hostile nor malevolent...a seal really isn't necessary.

Yukari: What!? Are you saying he did all this for no reason...!?

Metis: Not at all. What he was really trying to accomplish was --

-This is definitely being revisited in P4AU when Elizabeth and the others "enact a miracle."

Now for a fun bit of "speculation." ...I feel it is very obvious who Nyarlathotep's "one true vessel" is:

"Vessel" seems to be a very intentional choice of words.

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Seeing as though Makoto formerly was the vessel of the incarnation of Death itself for 10 years, he is the most viable option if the "vessel" is something already established in canon. Added to the fact he is the sole user of The Universe arcana which not even Igor expected to lay eyes on: an arcana which has the power to bring about a "new beginning" or "ultimate end", it just makes the most sense.

I personally cannot fathom what would constitute as a remotely comparable or more suitable "vessel" than Makoto. It's implications on the story would be the ultimate middle finger to the P3 cast.

And no, MINAZUKI is not Nyarlathotep so Sho is not the vessel. Not only are their voices and personalities completely different (discounting the fact Nyarlathotep is "General Teddie") MINAZUKI's goal is to "protect that child"/ "protect her", which obviously is not "Malevolent Entity." MINAZUKI is almost certainly the ego generated by Sho's personality module/Plume of Dusk, thus why he is "the same" as Labrys. Added to the fact MINAZUKI is Ikutsuki's "insurance" as confirmed by the 2ch notes last December: I really have no clue why anyone who has been keeping up with P4AU's story thinks Malevolent Entity is possesing Sho. The "vessel" is currently out of Nyarlathotep's reach.. But as evidenced with Kandori in P2EP, Makoto's body being dead is not an insurmountable issue.

But no matter how things play out, don't give up "hopes and dreams" because I assure you that Namba is trolling pretty damn hard. Haha. Once again, I am not saying 100% he's playable; but Makoto will definitely be involved in the story.
 
New stage found in the E3 build
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Yeah this scream "true boss" stage definitely playing Mist here.

Also Gamestop Pre-Order bonus for P4AU listed tarot cards and a Teddie inflatable bop bag until supplies last
 
Most of the sites I know that have P4AU on them normally have that as a sort of placeholder date because no official release date has been announced. Don't count on non-Atlus sources.
 
Anime Weekend Atlanta is literally the weekend before Ultimax comes out.....

 
shoryusatsu999 said:
Most of the sites I know that have P4AU on them normally have that as a sort of placeholder date because no official release date has been announced. Don't count on non-Atlus sources.
For what it's worth, my preorder from gamestop has it listed on the 30th, which is a Tuesday. Plus the atlus rep with ultrachen said it was coming at the end of September, so I think that's the legit date.
 
No please...

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Sanoblaze said:
DON'T BREAK THE RULES!

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!
DON'T BREAK THE RULES!
But what if a rule was added in the middle of the fight and you end up breaking it?
 
Back in P3, you could only fight Liz solo. Bring anyone else in, and she'll instakill them. Actually rather light in comparison to what she does otherwise.

If you break one of her OTHER rules, you'll have a nonstop onslaught of special 9999-damage Megidolaons chucked at you. (In comparison, the highest amount of health you're ever going to get is 3 digits.) These rules range from "don't use the game-breaking 9999-damage Armageddon spell unless it kills me first" to "don't null, reflect or absorb multiple elements" to "don't use an accessory with a null/reflect/absorb property on it" to "don't null/reflect/absorb whatever element I'm currently using." Even worse, Megidolaons are Almighty-element; almost NOTHING can even resist almighty (and certainly nothing players can get). Oh yeah, she also chucks one at you about every 8 turns or so. Hope you have an invincibility skill ready!

Also forgot to mention: She can do two things per turn. So if she doesn't use a Physical attack on you at all, she can 9999 Megidolaon you in 4 turns. Have fun!
 
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Margaret in P4's actually EASIER than Liz, for 5 reasons.

  1. You can bring teammates into the fray without fear of instadeath.
  2. You can null/reflect/absorb the attacks of whatever element she's using (using a null/reflect/absorb accessory will still get you wrecked, though).
  3. She only drops 9999 Megidolaons on you every 50 turns. Any Megidolaons dropped before then are very painful, but survivable.
  4. She only acts once per turn. (Except in Golden, where she gets two actions per turn again)
  5. You can use an All Out Attack on her if she misses a physical attack or you crit on a physical attack.
However, she's MUCH worse when she reappears in P3P. You can still bring in teammates, but she can also act twice per turn, she has four phases rather than a set pattern like both Elizabeth and her own P4 incarnation do, she can no longer be knocked down at all (so no All Out Attacks for you!), and you have to deal at least 7000 damage to her every 10 turns or else she'll 9999 Megidolaon you.
 
You don't really have to worry about the 9999 Megidolans until turn 100 if you maxed Rise social link in Golden (free shield of justice) and avoid any potential multi kills which should be easy with the right party mix-up. Having teammates made the Margaret fight easy so it's much more fun just going 1 vs 1 using non-uber personas like how it went down in the anime lol.
 
Holy fucking shit.
That's radical.
Now I really do hope Dojima and Nanako are in, because their shadows would be so so so so so fucked up compared to the joke characters those two are.
 
Wait so
Shadow Nanako secretly wants to kill her Daddy for never talking about Mom
And Shadow Dojima just...thinks he deserves it

Oh




Fuck
 
Clawsome Bombs said:
Wait so
Shadow Nanako secretly wants to kill her Daddy for never talking about Mom
And Shadow Dojima just...thinks he deserves it

Oh




Fuck

You just made it worse than it already was.
 
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Wait
Is the localized game just gonna be called Persona 4 Arena Ultimax?
 
The two Shos are intriguing me more and more
 
This one is Minazuki. The other is Sho.

Or you could call this one Pershona.
 
Yeah yeah I know
 
EA575 said:
Wait
Is the localized game just gonna be called Persona 4 Arena Ultimax?
Yep. If it's like the last one, setting the language to Japanese will bring back the old logo and name.
 
shoryusatsu999 said:
Yep. If it's like the last one, setting the language to Japanese will bring back the old logo and name.
But...I want the full name with English text
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Adachi fully revealed on the website with voice samples on profile, but no trailer yet.

Edit: GameTrailers uploaded brief English Yukari arcade mode footage

 
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And here's a translated version of the Minazuki trailer. Things are getting December 31st dark in here...

 
Oh shit

Scarface means srs biz, guyz

I just wanna know who "his" and "her" entails
 
Dunno. Anyway, apparently in one scene of PQ Koromaru gets excited about an upcoming crossdressing contest, and Junpei thinks he wants to enter. Well, a Tumblr fan artist decided to take this to its logical conclusion...

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Minazuki is obv talking about Nanako
little does he know that she can fend for herself and then some
 
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Ruin said:
Minazuki is obv talking about Nanako
little does he know that she can fend for herself and then some
Who's Nanako? The only person I know here is Magical Detective Loveline.
 
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I can only think of two potential candidates for "Her."

Labrys or FeMC.
 
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