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Shin Megami Tensei and Persona

Sanoblaze said:
I dont think it'd work well with the formula of the game. and again, Yu also has the power to change personas yet he solely uses Izanagi. it wouldn't make sense for one to do it and not the other. so he'd probably stick to Orpheus. And weapon changing would be too slow and the game thrives on being fast paced.
Naoto already switches weapons for her physical supers barring Raid/Crit Shot. Can't be too hard for P3MC to do the same during special moves and such.
 
Nap1400 said:
Why would he play too much like Yu? He uses multiple weapons and Personas. They might be able to make him a stance character or something similar.

They changed him to just using one-handed swords in the PSP version, IIRC. He would be cool as a "bonus" character though if they kept it purely non-canon (or brought in the female protagonist).

I have a love-hate relationship with P4A - I love the characters and most of the moves, and Yukiko is one of my all-time favorites in a fighter.

At the same time, I really disliked the "mash Square to autocombo and hit 1 trigger to DP" aspects and P4A in general is rife with a really ridiculous amount of invincibility frames on too many things. But overall I'm fond of it and eager for more characters.
 
SunnyRei said:
They changed him to just using one-handed swords in the PSP version, IIRC. He would be cool as a "bonus" character though if they kept it purely non-canon (or brought in the female protagonist).

I have a love-hate relationship with P4A - I love the characters and most of the moves, and Yukiko is one of my all-time favorites in a fighter.

At the same time, I really disliked the "mash Square to autocombo and hit 1 trigger to DP" aspects and P4A in general is rife with a really ridiculous amount of invincibility frames on too many things. But overall I'm fond of it and eager for more characters.
I kinda like the simple combo thing. it allows new players to have something they can use and can test out other more complex combos with.

shoryusatsu999 said:
Naoto already switches weapons for her physical supers barring Raid/Crit Shot. Can't be too hard for P3MC to do the same during special moves and such.
there is a difference between pulling out different types of the same weapon and swapping out gloves, swords, bows, etc etc.
 
I personally like to think that Makoto is more prone to using multiple personas than Yu mostly because of the Fusion Spell thing, and Aigis can mostly be waved off as her being used to her main persona after the events of The Journey.

As for stances, they could always do something similar to Zappa from Guilty Gear and have him summon multiple personas to build up to a big one. It doesn't necessarily have to be weapon switching that happens slowly.
 
Nap1400 said:
I personally like to think that Makoto is more prone to using multiple personas than Yu mostly because of the Fusion Spell thing, and Aigis can mostly be waved off as her being used to her main persona after the events of The Journey.

As for stances, they could always do something similar to Zappa from Guilty Gear and have him summon multiple personas to build up to a big one. It doesn't necessarily have to be weapon switching that happens slowly.
the problem with that is it means he cant rely too much on his personas if he uses them to set up specials and supers. and summoning multiples could mean it'd be easier to persona break him.
 
Jutsei said:
There's also the (Minor) thing that Aigis is The Fool in P4A, right?
Doesn't she still have the Wild Card?
I think she still has the same powers. And Elizabeth is the one in possession of P3 protag's wild card.
 
ArcSys is making it so the characters have varying levels of cards next game right? Give him the most.
 
Nap1400 said:
ArcSys is making it so the characters have varying levels of cards next game right? Give him the most.
That should only happen if he's easier to Persona Break than Shadow Labrys and Elizabeth combined.
 
Nap1400 said:
ArcSys is making it so the characters have varying levels of cards next game right? Give him the most.

They're kinda going for like... the characters really dependent on their Personas get the most cards, but correspondingly have the longest regen time if it gets broken. The characters who don't use theirs much like Akihiko only get like 2 cards, so they are easy to break but regen faster.
 
shoryusatsu999 said:
That should only happen if he's easier to Persona Break than Shadow Labrys and Elizabeth combined.
if he has to summon a ton of personas at once then he would. but I think it would just be too much going on with him if he has to summon multiple personas, and fight his opponent. it kinda seems like it would be a mess.
 
If you really want P3MC to have multiple personas, why not just give him the ability to swap them out as his character gimmick? We wouldn't have to deal with the multiple personas on screen thing except maybe for SB supers and his instakill, and it'd give him something unique over the other characters.
 
shoryusatsu999 said:
If you really want P3MC to have multiple personas, why not just give him the ability to swap them out as his character gimmick? We wouldn't have to deal with the multiple personas on screen thing except maybe for SB supers and his instakill, and it'd give him something unique over the other characters.
I can see that being his risk move, but again, storyline pretty much writes him out of being able to be used unless they add in a huge story element with the next update.
 
shoryusatsu999 said:
If you really want P3MC to have multiple personas, why not just give him the ability to swap them out as his character gimmick? We wouldn't have to deal with the multiple personas on screen thing except maybe for SB supers and his instakill, and it'd give him something unique over the other characters.
What this guy said. This is mainly what I was going for with the Makoto thing. I realize the problem with doing it in canon
due to the whole dying thing
but I just want to see it in some way. Maybe as a dream match or something.

The idea I was going for with the Zappa comparison is that he'd use Orpheus as a standard persona, but he can switch with another one that comes out and changes his playstyle slightly. He gains experience the same way Zappa gains orbs, and when he gets enough experience, he can fuse them into a better persona. I imagine it'd be Messiah or something.
 
Well, I doubt that Elizabeth's search for a way to revive P3MC won't bear fruit in some way. Then again, the only thing I'm really wondering about him at this point is whether he has his own Shadow to deal with.
 
shoryusatsu999 said:
Well, I doubt that Elizabeth's search for a way to revive P3MC won't bear fruit in some way. Then again, the only thing I'm really wondering about him at this point is whether he has his own Shadow to deal with.
It might bear fruit not in arena, but I have heard of possibly a new persona game featuring a mix of the cast. but I could be wrong. and I don't think he would have a shadow. he's more of an avatar than Yu if you ask me.
 
I could see Makoto being a Amaterasu type character, changing weapons on the fly.
However, the game is a canon deal, so unless Elizabeth can forge Max bonds with everyone on Earth, thus deleting all pro-death thoughts from the world, and freeing him from "almighty doorknob" status by the time the update/sequel is localized, I don't see him happening.
 
So, uh, what about the FeMC? I know that she probably won't show up in canon without EXTREME changes, but it'd be interesting to see her show up again.
 
If somehow canon allows this, I hope her theme is "Wiping All Out". If not her, then Yukari.
 
isnt she su
shoryusatsu999 said:
So, uh, what about the FeMC? I know that she probably won't show up in canon without EXTREME changes, but it'd be interesting to see her show up again.
isnt she supposed to be the same person as MaleMC? so wouldn't she have the same ending?
 
I personally would love adachi in the game, but that's just me ^;
 
Lunerstep said:
I personally would love adachi in the game, but that's just me ^;
Adachi would be the shit!

also, we need the Hierophant of the Hour!
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RYOTARO DOJIMA!
 
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Sanoblaze said:
isnt she su

isnt she supposed to be the same person as MaleMC? so wouldn't she have the same ending?
That's in the alternate universe where P3P's FeMC route takes place. Who knows where she is in canon?

Also, there's no chance at all of Adachi becoming playable, even though I once saw some awesome P4A-style fanart of him.
 
shoryusatsu999 said:
That's in the alternate universe where P3P's FeMC route takes place. Who knows where she is in canon?

Also, there's no chance at all of Adachi becoming playable, even though I once saw some awesome P4A-style fanart of him.
I'm pretty sure she is like Shepard. Same story outcomes and interactions but different ways of going about it. so she wouldnt be in the game if P3MC was canon.

Can we all just please think aboiut how awesome it would be to have Dojima be playable in this game?
 
ASW tried. Their idea got punted. With prejudice.

I think they tried to do the same with Nanako. Also got rejected. With extreme prejudice.
 
shoryusatsu999 said:
ASW tried. Their idea got punted. With prejudice.

I think they tried to do the same with Nanako. Also got rejected. With extreme prejudice.
Rejected only means they havent gotten around to putting them in yet
 
The idea was that they'd have Dojima as a "joke" character with Nanako acting in place of a persona, though that got shot down immediately probably because Atlus doesn't want them in this mess.
 
Plus, neither of them know about the Midnight Channel or are known to be able to enter it on their own, even after all is said and done. How could they have been incorporated into the plot other than how they ended up being put in Yu's story?
 
See, I just want Atlus to forget about canon for at least one of these games and make it a dream match thing so we can have everyone regardless of plot issues.
 
Jutsei said:
I really wish that wasn't shot down
I really wish Nap didn't call it a mess.

Nap1400 said:
See, I just want Atlus to forget about canon for at least one of these games and make it a dream match thing so we can have everyone regardless of plot issues.

and you're expecting Atlus to drop the plot on something? HA!
 
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At least it seems the navigators aren't canon. Make Dojima a navigator.

Match opening: "I can make damn good coffee."
Victory: "You want to take a vacation for Golden Week?"
Defeated: "Sorry, I'm going to have to cancel the trip..."
Intro against Naoto: "That kid is too smart for her own good."
Intro against Kanji: "He needs to settle down if he wants to protect his mom so much."
Perfect Victory: "I was supposed to help you, but it ended up the other way around."
Match start (assisting Yu): "IS THERE SOMETHING YOU'RE NOT TELLING ME ABOUT LAST YEAR'S CASE?"
Match start (assisting Teddie): "You're kinda odd, but Nanako wants me to cheer you on."
 
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Hopefully, Yukari will be good for me to use because honestly Yukiko is like the only character I was interested in and even then she's actually quite difficult for me to use. I can't even do a fucking Double Maragi loop, seriously, she was made to be played by human players, not fucking octopuses...
 
Clawsome Bombs said:
At least it seems the navigators aren't canon. Make Dojima a navigator.

Match opening: "I can make damn good coffee."
Victory: "You want to take a vacation for Golden Week?"
Defeated: "Sorry, I'm going to have to cancel the trip..."
Intro against Naoto: "That kid is too smart for her own good."
Intro against Kanji: "He needs to settle down if he wants to protect his mom so much."
Perfect Victory: "I was supposed to help you, but it ended up the other way around."
Match start (assisting Yu): "IS THERE SOMETHING YOU'RE NOT TELLING ME ABOUT LAST YEAR'S CASE?"
Match start (assisting Teddie): "You're kinda odd, but Nanako wants me to cheer you on."
We just need to keep pushing Dojima as a character and a Navigator. (mainly cuz Navigators arent programmed for the character. just a commentator on the fight.)
 
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At this point I'm a little useless in this thread.

Y'all are talking about Persona Plot and I can't help you there.
 
Denizen said:
At this point I'm a little useless in this thread.

Y'all are talking about Persona Plot and I can't help you there.
Then go out. get a PS2. and play the amazing Persona video games!
 
Don't worry. There will probably be something you know P4A-wise that we don't.
 
Sanoblaze said:
Then go out. get a PS2. and play the amazing Persona video games!
Hahahahaha NO. That's not going to happen.
 
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