2) Being - 2 means you are still minus. So you have to block, and guess what double doesn't ever want to do?
You don't HAVE to block if you think they're going to low/throw at -2 since neutral jump avoids lows at those small negatives. You can also c.LP to steal advantage if you think they're going to hesitate even slightly after blocking M Luger. If they are going to do a standing jab or a crouching jab right when they exit blockstun yeah sure you gotta hold that... or you could call lockdown assist and do LK Butt since it's fully invul now, like how Band can do lockdown assist+L Extend to steal initiative back after unpunishable L Brass.
...This is also worst case scenario, POINT BLANK. If double is far enough for the projectile to have even 2f travel time to the opponent, she's +0. At 3f projectile travel time she's +1. At that point you don't have to do potentially risky/scummy initiative stealing things, you are straight up plus.
3) The only good luger is H luger. M is to end blockstrings, L is to confirm into car 80% of the time. It's not that good, and the majority of the time you get hit for trying L luger or it gets crouched. Fullscreen it does nothing but give you car, which honestly is w/e to the opponent
L Luger is an excellent tool when used in conjunction with s.HP zoning. s.HP-> Opponent does nothing for more than 5 frames after blocking it = you are at advantage in neutral. s.HP xx L Luger immediately or with any delay > Your opponent does something, like dash or jump forward out of blockstun, they get tagged by the luger. The reward isn't amazing but it's a way to zone a grounded opponent at midscreen, and if s.HP hits you get a slide knockdown, and if Luger hits you get better positioning. If they anticipate s.HP and jump over on pre-emptive read, the threat of anti-air L or H Luger is still there.
It should go without saying but just to make sure I'm not misheard as saying this is a panacea - this to be used in conjunction with the rest of what she can do in neutral where you evaluate it's appropriate.
Dolfinh said:
it doesn't change that her reward for landing a hit is negligible.
7.5k for a cilia slide confirm + a meter isn't negligible. Without Cilia slide her damage is worse, but her reset/mixup potential makes up for it. Her on-hit reset game is ridankulous too, which is reward enough even if you stuck to basic teacup loops. She also has access to easy max-undizzy slide knockdown combos(Ground series HK xx H Luger, s.LP LP MK MK HP into whatever) for safejumps and other setups.
On-hit is explicitly NOT where one of Double's weaknesses is. Her damage is below average but her setups absolutely make up for it.
Dolfinh said:
you can still jab out of a lot of her vortex stuff
Only if your setup is shit.
I'm pretty sure I posted this earlier in this thread but whatever I'll post it again. Do this:
On lights: s.HK j.LK(3) j.MP(2) j.MK slight delay j.HP. This lets you dash under s.LP LP in time to still meaty them from the air, stay same side s.LP LP, or air throw them.
If you confirm that they've blocked LP LP, call assist and flesh step/not flesh step for another mixup. If they block the assist, use the frame advantage to do something.
On heavies: s.HK j.LK(3) j.MP(2) j.MK slight delay j.HK. Same result above, but can give you enough time to also do jumpback j.LK as burst bait on some characters if I recall correctly. A quick test shows that the burst bait at least works on Parasoul.
AFK