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Report 11-7 Salty: Beowulf Nears Beta-Worthiness, New Stage

Jet Set Dizzy said:
Hubrecht is awesome!

Agreed.

Plus if he were in game, along with Eliza and Fortune, they would make Team Aladdin
And that would be really cool sauce

Anyway lovin' that Minette banner
 
Kitsuziza said:
Is there a reason Beowulf's chair has to disappear from the background when he's tagged out. I've always liked the fact that there are things to watch out for an play around in the background of Skullgirls. I figure if he leaves it out he should have to come back for it right?

Seconded. That and I want to use his chairless Dudley sweep as an assist. Hope it turns out this way eventually. If Ms. Fortune can have different tag in properties with or without her head, why can't Beowulf?
 
Kitsuziza said:
Is there a reason Beowulf's chair has to disappear from the background when he's tagged out. I've always liked the fact that there are things to watch out for an play around in the background of Skullgirls. I figure if he leaves it out he should have to come back for it right?
If that happens then they need to animate a new tag in for him. Which means one less other move that he gets. Which at this point are special moves, grab finishers, and super moves. Would you trade one of those to let him keep the chair out?
 
Zidiane said:
If that happens then they need to animate a new tag in for him. Which means one less other move that he gets. Which at this point are special moves, grab finishers, and super moves. Would you trade one of those to let him keep the chair out?
Then just have it disappear right before he actually tags in?
 
Zidiane said:
If that happens then they need to animate a new tag in for him. Which means one less other move that he gets. Which at this point are special moves, grab finishers, and super moves. Would you trade one of those to let him keep the chair out?

Lab zero is pretty creative in how they use their animations. They may be able to use what they already plan give him an make shift tag in when he does not have his chair.

This will force players to choose on whether or not its worth it for Beowulf to get his chair back before tagging him out.
 
I thought that Beo's tag in was being animated in a manner that allowed it to work with or without the chair. As in, the animation would remain the same even if he didn't have the chair, except for the obvious fact that he would no longer be holding his chair.
 
Armageddon11 said:
Then just have it disappear right before he actually tags in?
That'd look really weird. Characters appear almost immediately for tags, so you'd be looking at the chair, it'd dissapear, then the very next discernible instant Beowulf would be behind you hitting you with the chair. Imagine if when you tagged Ms.Fortune immediately got her head back and threw it at you for her tag. You could be looking at it behind you one second, and it'd have been thrown at your face from the opposite direction the very next.

Kitsuziza said:
Lab zero is pretty creative in how they use their animations. They may be able to use what they already plan give him an make shift tag in when he does not have his chair.
If they wanted to do it, it'd have been done already. So doing it now is outside the plan. I don't want to get a move that's forced as a chairless tag. Remember when Fukua didn't have any new assets, and some of her stuff looked not as good? It worked well enough, but there were obvious chop points.

This will force players to choose on whether or not its worth it for Beowulf to get his chair back before tagging him out.
He can get rid of his chair mid combo, and do a finisher into the chair for the extra damage. It's not like Fortune's head, where it can do stuff on it's own to help Fortune. I haven't gotten a chance to play him, and he's not finished even if I had, but I don't think leaving the chair on the field will do much. If you wanna not have the chair after tagging, just jumpback hk. If you wanna have the chair after tagging, any combo you land will end up at the chair anyway letting you pick it up. The only difference will be you have Grendel Arm on incoming, but like I said if you want that just instantly j.hk, and if you WANT to have the chair on incoming then you have to work to get it back with a combo or neutral, which sounds like a hassle. You'd just be making life difficult for people who want the chair after tagging.

Skullmageddon said:
I thought that Beo's tag in was being animated in a manner that allowed it to work with or without the chair. As in, the animation would remain the same even if he didn't have the chair, except for the obvious fact that he would no longer be holding his chair.
I know his block works like that, and I know his normals actually either don't have the chair or are completely different, but I don't know about tag. I haven't been watching the animation streams, so maybe he does. But, like I said, I think if he was intended to be capable of tagging in without his chair, they would have showed it at one of the things by now.
 
Zidiane said:
If that happens then they need to animate a new tag in for him. Which means one less other move that he gets. Which at this point are special moves, grab finishers, and super moves. Would you trade one of those to let him keep the chair out?

not really. they can use an already existing animation. only squigly has got her own unique tag in animation and the rest of them are all reused from other stuff. no reason beo cant be the same way. maybe a drop kick or something.
 
Hey Mike (and the rest of the Skullgirls community), Ian from Shoryuken here. I just wanted to pop in and say that we hear you loud and clear regarding promotion of the Salty! streams when they are live as opposed to simply posting archives. My apologies for dropping the ball on that front.
 
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Evilweevle said:
not really. they can use an already existing animation. only squigly has got her own unique tag in animation and the rest of them are all reused from other stuff. no reason beo cant be the same way. maybe a drop kick or something.
There are more characters than Squigly with new assets on their tags. Peacock's boxing glove is unique, Parasoul on the riding on the bike is unique, Eliza riding with Albus is unique, and Filia's tag taunt is unique. Though it is true many of them reuse assets, I like what Beowulf's got now.
 
Kitsuziza said:
Is there a reason Beowulf's chair has to disappear from the background when he's tagged out.
Guessing it might be to prevent chairless moves from being assists. Would be a shame since some of those could be pretty sweet, but maybe that's the point.
 
Muro said:
Guessing it might be to prevent chairless moves from being assists. Would be a shame since some of those could be pretty sweet, but maybe that's the point.
If it isn't the point, maybe they could be accessed with 22+HP/HK on the assist screen?
 
*swooshes in* remember how Captain America's moves are the same, but have an extra entity (the shield) overlaid on them?

Beowulf is the same way, j.HK is an example, j.HP is an example, I almost want to say st.HP is an example but I am pretty sure it's not.

Also recall that roughs and keyframes of the animation were shown at anime expo--explicitly his tag in/out

he's just gonna bop you with 2 fists until proven otherwise.


theoryfighting is hard.

beowulf's stage is cool

*vanisheseseseses*
 
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ian to the max said:
Hey Mike (and the rest of the Skullgirls community), Ian from Shoryuken here. I just wanted to pop in and say that we hear you loud and clear regarding promotion of the Salty! streams when they are live as opposed to simply posting archives. My apologies for dropping the ball on that front.
You sexy bastard you!

Mike_Z said:
Dead On Time's wall splat
Ninja said:
so confirmed wall bounce for Grendal's Arm Super?
Bounce? No...

Kitsuziza said:
Is there a reason Beowulf's chair has to disappear from the background when he's tagged out.
Well, he uses it in his tag in, and he's not getting an alternate tag in for time and space reasons.
Beowulf, master of Time and Space.
But mostly it's because it isn't finished yet. The idea is indeed to have it stick around, behind everything else, then fall over and disappear when he tags in...but this probably means your chair toss assists become their respective normals after being used once. And you still can't come in chairless.
 
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Ugh getting a wall splat. That sounds terrifying

Lol
 
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Oh....I thought Eliza is taller than Beowulf. They about the same height.
 
I forgot....she's tall because she have heels....
So that's mean Beowulf taller? @_@
 
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