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The canon info thread - what we know

It it makes you all feel better you can all blame this delay on The Wulf Pack. We're tough, we can take it, and it was probably our fault anyway. We basically doubled the size of the list at the last minute.
 
It it makes you all feel better you can all blame this delay on The Wulf Pack. We're tough, we can take it, and it was probably our fault anyway. We basically doubled the size of the list at the last minute.
Lol that's okay. :P Actually the Beowulf questions I don't think was a problem since most of them are pretty short and he could probably come up with answers for those quickly. Some questions in the list are quite deep though so Alex probably needs more time to think about them. Didn't help that I only submitted the list yesterday orz
 
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98 seems like an odd number of questions...make it 99 or 100
but then again chance you might not get to ask all them in the first place so I guess it's cool
also YOU CAN LINK TO DOCUMENTS LIKE THAT?! Learn something new everyday~
 
98 seems like an odd number of questions...make it 99 or 100
Chrono please add one more question so that Alex Ahad can have 99 questions but Z-Rays ain't one. Seriously no one has asked a single question about Z-Rays. I was so focused on Beowulf that I didn't realize until it was too late.
 
Chrono please add one more question so that Alex Ahad can have 99 questions but Z-Rays ain't one. Seriously no one has asked a single question about Z-Rays. I was so focused on Beowulf that I didn't realize until it was too late.

Why is Isaac's fashion sense so damn fine.
There. There's your 99th question.
 
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MY QUESTION IS...

What does Alex think of the people who wanted to animate Annie?
 
MY QUESTION IS...

What does Alex think of the people who wanted to animate Annie?

That makes it sound like they no longer want to. Is that so?
 
Haha, so it looks like even lore interviews aren't immune to taking 2 More Weeks™. It is pretty cool that Alex cares enough that he doesn't just want to half-ass the answers, though. Definitely makes me look forward to it more. ; v ;

Agghh though, now that Denizen posted that it's got me thinking about Z-Rays, too. Are they just the lasers? Are they not the lasers? Are they both? Partially? Something else entirely? Now I can't stop thinking about it.

There are too many questions that need asking ;-; diggety dang nabbit
 
No no no, it's not that they don't WANT to. It's just they're less motivated because they were denied the ability to actually make Annie because Lab Zero couldn't possibly accept something that they didn't think met their quality.
 
Alright! Call should be starting in a few minutes. Just got feedback from Alex about which questions he will answer. Here is the list again with the questions he won't answer greyed out.
So this isn't being streamed right, I can continue playing Dark Souls II?
 
I'm mostly just excited to learn why the hell Isaac's hair has a scar.
Truly it is the most burning question in all of Skullgirls' lore.
 
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>69, 76 and 77 to be answered
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Shame about 71 but gotta save something for the official Story or even for speculation. All good stories leave room for the reader/viewer/player's imagination, after all.
 
Oh sweet Chrono is editing the list as he get's answers from Alex, that's awesome.

I see that a lot of the Beowulf questions won't be answered, that's understandable since most of that information will be reveled when he's in the game. I'm really happy that my Young Beowulf question will be answered.
 
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ISAAC'S HAIR CONFIRMED FOR HARDER THAN STEEL
ISAAC'S HAIR TOP TIER
 
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Alright! We just finished the call. I had everything recorded but I was taking notes on the list as well in case something went south with the recording, but I just checked and it looks like everything is okay. :3 I will upload the recording in a bit and then write up the info. I will have to go through and edit the recording first though since I was talking to Alex about some random personal stuff as well which I might not want to put online publicly lol.
 
Beowulf's Wresting Record: 32-0

BEOWULF CONFIRMED FUCKING UNSTOPPABLE.

>implying Beowulf wouldn't eventually get his ass beat by a total newcomer on the grounds that someone decided it'd make better drama
 
More Annie answers! The hairstyles! The general acknowledgement of Beowulf!
 
>implying Beowulf wouldn't eventually get his ass beat by a total newcomer on the grounds that someone decided it'd make better drama
>implying that pro wrestling in the Skullgirls universe is fake, which it isn't.
 
>implying that pro wrestling in the Skullgirls universe is fake, which it isn't.

I guess we already have our first question for the next time someone scores a lore Q&A, don't we?
 
I guess we already have our first question for the next time someone scores a lore Q&A, don't we?
Alex Ahad already confirmed that a long time ago.
 
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Alex Ahad already confirmed that a long time ago.

Well that's not even wrestling then, that's just unarmed gladiatorial combat.

Unarmed gladiatorial combat made of liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiies.
 
Well that's not even wrestling then, that's just unarmed gladiatorial combat.
Yeah pretty much, it gets brutal I mean Beowulf did rip a giant's arm off.
 
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Yeah pretty much, it get's brutal I mean Beowulf did rip a giant's arm off.

Wasn't that how Andre the Giant died anyways?
 
Alex likes giving some trollish answers every now and then. :3
But great to see my headcanon for A&H pretty much confirmed and pleasantly surprised that they can at least rank a respectable "comparable" in terms of battle prowess.

Again, much obliged, Chrono_Tata. (__)

@Chrono_Tata Can you give us a link to the doc itself? I'm having trouble with the embodied version.
High Priority
1. In early lore materials, Squigly’s full name was given as Sienna Quinton CiShan Contiello, and she has Dragon Empire heritage. Are these still canon?
* She still have some Chinese theme in her move but her heritage isn’t canon anymore. No middle names now

1. Were Marie and Patricia maids before they were captured by the slave traders, or was it the slave traders who captured them to be trained as maids?
* They weren’t technically maids. The orphanage was originally a nobleman’s house. So they made do with the clothes that were available. Marie took care of things around the house and the other kids would listen to her better if she dresses up like a adult

1. Previously, you have said that you can’t remember exactly what the functions of ASG Lab 5 and 6 used to be, but you think that they might have something to do with vehicle development and Theonite research. Could you confirm which one does what?
* 5: Specialised weapons, 6: theonite research

1. Avery the bird appears to be one of the manifestations of the Avery Unit’s power, but what exactly is the Avery Unit? Is it grafted onto Peacock? What does it look like?
* It’s up to our imagination :P

1. Would you consider putting more of your early 2003-2005 sketches into the art gallery? It's cool seeing the humble beginnings of such awesome characters.
* Yes

1. When Leviathan was Squigly's father's parasite, did he reside in him internally or externally? (I guess the question is if other people could see Leviathan usually when he was attached to Roberto)
* External. Arm or shoulder area

1. Can artificial parasites be unattached? Without any side effects?
* Depends on how they are attached. The point of attachment can’t be removed without massive surgeries, but unlike normal parasites, artificial parasites can have removable parts (like PW’s Buer Drive in the violin case) Peacock can remove her arms, like an action figure

1. Besides being more magic-based than Canopy Kingdom, what's the Chess Kingdom like in terms of population, culture, and architecture? Do any of the currently-revealed characters hail from the Chess Kingdom, or are there any revealed characters of Chess heritage? If so, which ones and in what ways?
* Mostly human, medieval European motif, but modern.
* Name comes from the majority of their military force having massive robot arms kinda like giant rooks
* Lore regarding this is uncertain so it could be changed

2. What exactly is "soul contamination", anyway? Does it have any noticeable effects, physically or mentally? Is it only caused by Synthetic Parasites?
* Mental corruption for ppl with multiple (synthetic or natural) parasites. Could probably kill the person. Very dangerous

1. Is there anything Peacock can't summon with the Avery Unit? How does that thing... work?
* Use your imagination lel
* She can’t literally summon anything out of thin air. They are modified arsenals. Even then there is a limit to her power
* Her power still growing, she might be able to summon more things in the future

1. Does being the Skullgirl change your personality much? Is Marie very different now from how she used to be?
* Yes. She is getting affected. More cold and ruthless. Still got a moral compass. She is resisting it with a strong will

1. How long would Parasites be able to survive while not being attached to a host? Is it necessary for Parasites to have food and sleep like other organisms?
* Don’t need food or sleep while they are detached. Depends on parasite. Some can go into minimal forms, like some bacteria

1. I always wondered if Vice-Versa had a secondary ability to not have its carrying weight affect Cerebella when she's wearing it, or if she herself had some kind of super strength, like with the elephants in her story mode.
* A bit of both. Vice versa negates some of the weight

1. It was mentioned that Peacock based her friends around people or things she has seen in the Lab, e.g. Andy was based on Stanley. Was Tommy based on Big Band and George and Lenny based on the huge 88 sphere in the middle of the Lab 8 stage? If not, who or what were they based on?
* More scientists. Tommy based on the big blocky scientist. The bombs are based on the small top knot guy

2. Squigly says “You used to be a lot shorter” to Parasoul. Have they met in the past? How much did they know each other?
* They haven’t met in person. Photos and TV

1. http://o-8.livejournal.com/2003/04/30/ To my knowledge, this post is the very first public display of any Skullgirls character, with Filia's first concepts dating some months after. Some months later, you drew more pictures of Peacock with a new design, and commented on the old design with "i think i like making peacock like this, than the previous design w/ the ugly patterns and shite". As all the pictures from your old website have since been purged, no one has seen Peacock's oldest design. Care to share/comment on it?
* Similar but more sharp. More like diamonds (the eyes). Patterns on her skirt . Skirt shape different. Face more angular. Taller.
* Peacock not the first skullgirls character tho. Posts of Umbrella, Parasoul before. Cerebella early 2003. Either squigly or para first character designed, before it was called skullgirls

1. Why was Peacock's design changed around so much? Did you originally have different plans for her?
* Demented type character. Changed to more cartoony

1. How old is Big Band's design concept? While some supporting characters such as Annie have artwork that is nearly a decade old, not much concept art of Big Band has surfaced at all.
* Big Band designed under concept of sg directly. Ileum and Brain Drain as well. He used to have arms

1. Do the Black Egret officers with the trenchcoats and military captain caps still exist in the current canon, or were they entirely replaced with the current Egret design (olive green suits and picklehaubes)?
* They still exist. Higher ranking officers. captains and stuff. Some sketches for glass canopy. Many different

1. Can Cerebella actually turn rock into diamond just with the strength of Vice Versa, or is that just a, "gameplay," feat, and not really her true-to-lore power?
* She should be able to

1. Valentine can be seen doing things that a normal human would never survive (skin ripping off, etc). Does she have some form of actual super powers or modifications, or is that attributed to, "ninja skills?"
* Ninja skillz. Illusion

1. Was there a reason Taliesin started to turn women into instruments? I assume it started with a nasty break-up.
* That would imply he saw others as people. Sociopath

1. Could you give us the order of when the ASG-units came in from oldest to newest? Were any of the Labs members introduced at the same time?
* Might be changed
* Black, Brain, Geiger, BB, Ilu, Hive, Leduc, Pea, Pain. BB and Ileum around the same time. 7 years ago. Hive and Leduc around the same time. Peacokc slightly later. PW in tandem in lab zero


2. Are the bees Hive controls mechanical or living organisms? Does she treat them like they're her pets or children?
* Mechanical. Like bombs or missiles. She has those bee-shaped. Not alive. Have no theonite in them

1. Did dinosaurs exist at all in the universe?
* Would be awful if they didn’t

1. Does Isaac have any connections with the ASG-labs?
* nope but his job has brought him into contact with unusual tech. Makes sesne if he knows stanley in some way. On the side. Isaac is a professor at Canopolis

2. How long has Annie's show been on TV? Do people know that she is immortal because of a Skullheart wish?
* She hides by getting different hairstyle. Eliza doing a similar trick

2. What purpose would the Mighty Metal Man have served for Lab 4? Was he a Skullgirl-fighting android? Was an AI like Ottomo meant to pilot the M3, or only to serve as an aide to a sentient pilot like Tom?
* A custom made M3 made by Tom. Lab 4 is vehicle actually

1. Are Tom and Stanley rivals, since they shared history and Tom betrayed the lab that they formerly worked together in?
* If they meet again they would certainly be rivals

1. Do those little kids hanging out with Ileum in the background of Lab 8/Under the Bridge have names?
* Don’t know yet

1. What was Filia's relationship with Carol like? Anything you can give about them pre-changes?
* Filia did not have genuine sincere friends like Carol. Carol was one of her few true friends

1. How did Peacock and Marie become friends? How long were they slaves for?
* Knew each other before the war. Become closer by being survivors. Peacock broken as an example. They were never slaves technically

1. How long has Patricia been Peacock?
* about a year or so. She developed rapidly

1. How did Minette and Ms. Fortune meet? Did it take much for them to become friends?
* Minette thought she was a cool cat. Fishbone hung out at restrarant all the time

1. What happens to Parasites if their host become a Skullgirl?
* They too are likewise corrupted. Could lose their individuality

2. What was the former country that Rommelgrad was located in? (And to a lesser extent, is Rommelgrad a country or a city? Alex is vague on it. If it is a country, what's it's capital? What was the town Marie and Peacock is from?)
* City. No name for the country yet

3. How old is Avian? Brain Drain?
* Pretty old. Brain Drain is pretty Brainy :P. Younger than Avian. Been in the lab a long time

1. Did Brain Drain already have some psychic powers pre robot body or did they only manifest after?
* The only successful psychic soldier. So before. The other psychic soldiers were unstable. There is a particularone that is not named yet

6. Did Beowulf fight in the Grand War?

* Might make sense that he is drafted. But not certain

3. Beowulf's early concept art showed that he was originally supposed to be a young man wielding an oddly shaped sword. Could this still be canon as Beowulf's younger self?
* Probably not really. Other desing where he was holding a hammer. Someone mentioned chair before Persona came out.

3. Is Beowulf well-read, or intelligent?
* He gets the job done

2. Other than Grendel, has Beowulf fought any other superhuman or mythical opponents?
* Grendel’s mom. Mayyybe more

2. What weight class would Beowulf be in, in wrestling terms?
* Mid lower end of cruiser weight. Level just below heavyweight

1. Is the hoodie and leg guards real pelt or just synthetic?
* Real pelt

1. Is Beowulf... A FAN OF ANNIE, and vice-versa? (No not the Living Weapon)
* They respect each other with hard working ppl in the entertainment industry. Like most people, he thinks she is an actress

1. if Peacock stops believing in imaginary friends or dies will George, Lenny, Tommy and Andy disappear?
* SHE’LL NEVER STOP BELIEVING

1. Trivia about Albus and Horace? How are their personalities and how do they stand fighting power-wise?
* Albus younger, more aggressive. Horace out of shape but more refiend and expeirenced. Work together well even if they argue every once in a while. Eliza does most of the fighting. “Comparable” to current cast. They would give beo an interesting match. More experienced than filia but not as strong as samson?

1. How does Big Band do... stuff? Eat, sleep, use the toilet... etc. Can he take that mouthpiece off? (Does he have a rich, brown, chocolaty center?)
* “Yes”

1. How was Ms. Fortune found by the Fish Bone Gang?
* A stray. Hanging around innsmouth

3. How is Regina in regards to personality?
* Disciplinary, cold

1. Why is Panzerfaust so big?
* He drank milk and ate all his vegetable. Also part of the lab 3 programme

1. Could be the artstyle, but does Isaac have a scar in his hair?
* Gravely injured a pair of scissors. Scars are cool

1. Is Eliza the only club singer in Canopy, or are there more obscure/less popular singers around?
* There are others around. She is one of the best known

1. A basic question, but is Eliza fond of cats?
* Yes

1. In the Halloween picture you made back in 2012, did you intentionally dress up Hive as the devil because of her parasite's name?
* She wants to dress up as a sexy devil. Either that or a sexy nurse but that was taken

1. How does training routines work for the Black Egrets? Are their days usually the same or differ?
* Regimented training, 7 minute workout at minimal

2. Do the Black Egrets still have those huge Metal Slug-esque tanks that were in lots of SG's concept art, or have they downsized?
* They still have large tanks. Mostly for display now after the war

1. When did Peacock start smoking? Age, or at least before or after she became Peacock?
* Imaginary cigar. After becoming peacock

1. Also, this one's small, but does Skullgirl-ification change your hair color along with the eyes and skull decor? (I've noticed some people think Marie's hair was brown before she became the Skullgirl due to the lighting in a certain scene in Double's storymode, but I'm not sure whether it's me or those people who are in the wrong.)
* Eyes turn red and hair turn pale. hair&eye was different. Blue eyes brown hair originally

1. Exactly how tall is Big Band, anyway? What's his weight?
* 7’7”. 300-400 pounds. Not sure the latter


2. can you tell me about Andy, Roxie and Ottomo personalities?
* Andy sports nerds. Boxing basketball.
* Roxie. Easy going. Driven by curiosity. Fan of disassembling and reassembling things. She loves sandwiches.
* Ottomo. Refined. Like a robot butler handling dirty work. Programmed like that to please mob bosses. Tom is crass and likes hitting on ladies. really sleezy. Not as infamous as dahlia but still scary

1. I notice that Taliesin, in comparison to Avian, has purple skin, why is that? Are there other unifying traits among elves?
* Pointy ears. Other than that they have a variety of skin tones. Cooler colours like blue, purple, pink

1. Past Skullgirls? What were they like? Theme/motifs? samples of how they were like?
* Very dead and women. They were skull girls

2. Of all the different ways the original poem could've been twisted, what led to choosing professional wrestling?
* Persuit of larger than life fame and glory. Beatign Grendel bare handed was kinda like wrestling

1. What's the extent of Beowulf's relationship with the other members of the cast?#
* He’s pretty detached. A side character. His career hasn’t broght him into contact with the main group

2. We kind of know what Grendel looks like from some old sketches, but what does his Mother look like?
* She looks big. That’s all I got

1. One time you said that Beowulf retired as a result of his match with Grendel. What happened during that match that caused Beowulf to step down?
* Most fans thought that that

1. How tall is Beowulf?
* Lineup are to scale. Roughly parasoul’s size

2. What was Beowulf's win/loss ratio during his career?
* 32:0 completely arbritary. Currently undefeated. Again might change

1. HOW MANY CANS CAN BEOWULF SMASH AGAINST HIS HEAD AT ONCE?
* Trying to hold more than 4 cans is awkward so it depends how many he can hold at the same time
Unanswered questions removed. Inelegant but hope it helps.
 
@Chrono_Tata Can you give us a link to the doc itself? I'm having trouble with the embodied version.
Code:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jxHXkZqQbFM2Tqpg1NtJMdVlyCtnlAVej0vcGCtLIuI/edit?usp=sharing

Anyway, this is the first part of the call. My internet disconnect after this point so I had to re-call Alex. Just went through it and it looks like it's good for release. :P I'll go through the second part in a sec.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bdmtikcof38yzqx/2014_04_05 08-04-09 chrono_tata Incoming from labzerogames .mp3

EDIT: Apologies in advance if I'm hard to understand. I didn't really approach this like an interview but like a normal convo.
 
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EDIT: Apologies in advance if I'm hard to understand. I didn't really approach this like an interview but like a normal convo.

I actually liked the accent you have. And I heard you just fine
*eagerly awaits part 2*
 
ISAAC'S HAIR CONFIRMED FOR HARDER THAN STEEL
ISAAC'S HAIR TOP TIER
Lol i just realised I mistyped "injured by a pair of scissors" to "injured a pair of scissors", so it sounds like Isaac's hair it so hardcore that it destroyed a pair of scissors.
 
Lol i just realised I mistyped "injured by a pair of scissors" to "injured a pair of scissors", so it sounds like Isaac's hair it so hardcore that it destroyed a pair of scissors.

Now that's what I call helmet hair.

Man, you are a godsend, thanks a billion for doing all this! Sure, some of the theories I had were mercilessly destroyed, but I was expecting that to happen anyways! Some stuff I had in my head was confirmed, so hey, it's all good.

Also, Isaac confirmed for Indiana Jones. Yiss.
 
At least some of my questions were finally answered
 
Now that's what I call helmet hair.

Man, you are a godsend, thanks a billion for doing all this! Sure, some of the theories I had were mercilessly destroyed, but I was expecting that to happen anyways! Some stuff I had in my head was confirmed, so hey, it's all good.

Also, Isaac confirmed for Indiana Jones. Yiss.
I'm beginning to love Isaac more and more.
He seems like a super chill dude.
 
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Thank you for asking some of my questions, @Chrono_Tata :) (chess kingdom heritage, diamond power, ninja skills, etc)

Seriously, Alex confirmed that Cerebella has some form of super strength even without Vice Versa, and that she can punch fucking rocks into diamond FOR REAL. Not just game play, but actual in-universe strength. With this confirmed, I'd challenge anyone to make a case that she's not the 2nd most powerful character in the cast, lore-wise (peacock obviously being top with all them gadgets).

If she were to ever turn on heartless-killer mode... it'd be fuckin' over, dude.
 
Thank you for asking some of my questions, @Chrono_Tata :) (chess kingdom heritage, diamond power, ninja skills, etc)

Seriously, Alex confirmed that Cerebella has some form of super strength even without Vice Versa, and that she can punch fucking rocks into diamond FOR REAL. Not just game play, but actual in-universe strength. With this confirmed, I'd challenge anyone to make a case that she's not the 2nd most powerful character in the cast, lore-wise (peacock obviously being top with all them gadgets).

If she were to ever turn on heartless-killer mode... it'd be fuckin' over, dude.

Well, there's always the ol' power level argument thread for that. It seems like most characters are at least on some par with each other in terms of strength, or at least everybody's badass enough to keep up. That's pretty cool.

Peacock's a giant cheater which is probably why she's up at the top. Reality abuse is such a wonderfully bullshit power. Though I wouldn't discount fighters like, say, Annie who have superpowers and tons of experience to back it up. Or the literal gods we got in the Trinity. (I'm still rooting for Peacock though. You go, kid.)
 
Thanks for all the questions dude! Thoughts:

-Sweet, got some of my questions answered and at least an iota of my Brain Drain head canon is correct (having psychic abilities prior to accident)

-There's another psychic soldier that's relevant? Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiinteresting

-Roxy sounds cute with her love of putting things together and getting carried away

-Interesting about the Grendel match being so sobering for Wulf.
 
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When Alex Ahad said "a bit of both" for Cerebella it's probably a sort of cartoony in universe strength that's not unique to her. Beowulf lifts Grendel's arm with ease and that's actually bigger than one of those elephants.

What I'm trying to say is that I still think I could kick her ass. Yeah the Who's the Strongest thread is perfect for this sort of discussion, but I would be careful since it's a breeding ground for nonsensical bickering.