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Them's Fightin' Herds

The Dave said:
I was under the impression "Season 2 Upgrade" was a super akin to, say, Hatred Install (better moves and mobility for a limited duration), whereas Annie's main gimmick would've been a "perfect hit" mechanic by hitting the enemy with a specific part of her sword.
I'm thinking more like Phoenix's lv 5. But yeah, that detail just stuck out to me the most. Becoming a straight up better character by using some sort of resource you have to gather rather than getting improvements here and there for a limited amount of time.
What is the source for that season 2 upgrade thing, by the way? I can't seem to be able to locate it.
 
yeah Annie's gimmick is the "edge" sorta like what Marth has in Smash Bros but you know in a fighting game format. So hitting the opponent with the edge would most likely have increased hit stun and maybe more damage. Because of that mechanic most of her moves that use the Perfect Hit mechanic would be command normals.
 
Oh, so you're saying that Annie would've been an incredible character.
 
The Dave said:
I was under the impression "Season 2 Upgrade" was a super akin to, say, Hatred Install (better moves and mobility for a limited duration), whereas Annie's main gimmick would've been a "perfect hit" mechanic by hitting the enemy with a specific part of her sword.

oh nooo we missed out on marth style tippers this is a travesty
 
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Ryin said:
What is the source for that season 2 upgrade thing, by the way? I can't seem to be able to locate it.

Some of the art from her character proposal mentions a "temporary season 2 powered up mode":

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This also showed up at the end of Robo Fortune's story mode.

SO, how about those farm animals? Any predictions for plot twists? I'm guessing Pom's puppy sheepdogs are actually conspiring to keep any of the animals from shutting the gate to Predator Land. By contrast, whatever horribly dark thing not-Twilight accidentally summons will turn out to be a "surprisingly honest and friendly" terrifying devil figure. I mean, Satan does technically still fit the "hooved resident" criteria.
 
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The Dave said:
By contrast, whatever horribly dark thing not-Twilight accidentally summons
>accidentally

Or maybe it'll be like Billy and Mandy where he's under her control and hates it whike Oleander herself is crazy about love and camraderie
 
The Dave said:
whatever horribly dark thing not-Twilight accidentally summons will turn out to be a "surprisingly honest and friendly" terrifying devil figure.
Automatically reminded me of a thing.
 
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The Dave said:
Some of the art from her character proposal mentions a "temporary season 2 powered up mode":
Thanks a lot! I was looking for it in text form, no wonder I couldn't find it.

About the ungulates, I don't really expect that kind of plot twist with Pom's dogs. And I think FHTNG will be a pretty chill demon guy. I like the idea of Oleander believing dark magic may be good, I wanna see it being true.
And she's the best ungulate.
 
Anime plot twist: The predators were the ones keeping the world in balance, the circle of life, and the Fœnicians broke it. Thus eventually summoning an ancient intergalactic species to Fœnum in order to devour them all and keep harmony in the universe.
 
Anime plot twist: The Foenicians were actually the ones in the prison, and the key keeper was actually meant to escape into the real world along with her species.
 
Ninja said:
Anime plot twist: The characters in the roster actually weren't animals but... People... who were turned into animals due to WWIII and nuclear fallout and mutations for 1000's of years.
And Rash from Battletoads makes a cameo appaearance
 
Mr. Marowak said:
And Rash from Battletoads makes a cameo appaearance
yes exactly. Which then ties into Killer Instinct due to Rash and the Battle Toads crashing the party over there. Along the way The Battle Toads were traveling the multi-verse when they happened upon Cerebella and that's why she knows the Battle Butt technique. and we all know that from Skull Girls it branches out to all the other fighters, like Street Fighter where Chun-Li and Guile have been turned into cute dogs and are held as hostage at the Casino. SEE? ALL FIGHTERS ARE TIED TOGETHER IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, LET'S SEE HOW DEEP THIS RABBIT HOLE CAN GET SHALL WE?

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Okie Dokie said:
Anime plot twist: The predators were the ones keeping the world in balance, the circle of life, and the Fœnicians broke it. Thus eventually summoning an ancient intergalactic species to Fœnum in order to devour them all and keep harmony in the universe.
Sounds a lot like Mass Effect
 
Jesus Christ. They're not doing a lot to make the Ungulates very sympathetic. Seriously, all that was missing from that primer was a description of the trains taking the predators to the gas chambers.
Hitler Pony said:
“In my speech before the Hoofed Council on the first of September 1939, I spoke of two matters: first, since we are forced into war, neither the threat of weapons nor a period of transition shall conquer us; second, if Predators launch another war in order to destroy the Ungulate nations of Fœnum, it will not be the Ungulate nations that will be destroyed, but the Predators... once the Fœnum Predators laughed at my prophecy. I do not know whether they are still laughing, or whether they are laughing on the other side of their faces. I can simply repeat — they will stop laughing altogether, and I will fulfill my prophecy in this field too.”
 
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Kai said:
They're not doing a lot to make the Ungulates very sympathetic.
This makes the lore interesting to me. Right and wrong aren't clear cut here based on what we know now.
 
erkicman said:
This makes the lore interesting to me. Right and wrong aren't clear cut here based on what we know now.
I feel like it would be interesting if it were intentional, but my first impression is that it's the product of tone-deaf writing. Like, in that world, banishing half the population to a hellish void would be the best and most preferable outcome, because fuck the predators. They do not adhere to our ways.

It's like Gazorpazorp, but not a joke.
 
Isn't that the problem with most cartoon hero and villain struggles? Like in Thundercats...sure Mumm-Ra worshipped Evil Spirits, but that doesn't mean he was a bad guy. He was like the landlord for a whole planet, and the Cats just flew in and started building their furry temples in his yard without a permit, or even paying taxes. I'd be mad too!

And then you had Cobra Commander. Swell guy for a terrorist. He even dressed his soldiers up in colorful uniforms so nobody could confuse them for civilians. Shoot, without him, the GI Joes wouldn't even have a job. You think the US government would spend trillions of dollars to help the Joes rescue kids stuck on ferris wheels? Cobra helped to keep those weapons manufacturers employed.

So when you think about it, Cartoon Villains are really just good guys that lose at the end of the episode.
 
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I do notice there is a strange tendency for furry related things (or at least internet/fan things, Pixar or classic cartoons never had this issue) to get all "dark and edgy" in somewhat tone deaf ways.

Like, if you compared all bad webcomics to all bad furry webcomics, I think the average EDGE ratio would be significantly higher for the furry side somehow.
 
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Kai said:
I feel like it would be interesting if it were intentional, but my first impression is that it's the product of tone-deaf writing. Like, in that world, banishing half the population to a hellish void would be the best and most preferable outcome, because fuck the predators. They do not adhere to our ways.

It's like Gazorpazorp, but not a joke.
I see where you're coming from, but when the other half of the population's ways typically involve killing and eating the other half (not necessarily in that order) then just banishing them doesnt sound all that bad.

That said, there's definitely possible grey areas on both sides. Did any carnivores try to make meat alternatives (tofurkey/soyBurgers/etc), were carnivores meat hungry maniacs, were there omnivores that went either way but were still banished, etc.

I mean look at the sheep dogs. This quote from the IGG comes to mind:

"No one really knows how it came about that Sheepkin live side by side with Sheep Dogs, but the popular theory is that the dogs are descended
from friendly omega-wolves who were harmless enough to hide with the sheep while the rest of their kind were disappearing."​

Like....what was making them disappear? Why did they have to hide if they were friendly? If they were friendly, then what did they eat? Why couldn't other carnivores eat it?

I personally think the grey areas on both sides (whether they were made on purpose or not) are great points that the story writer(s) can flesh out.
 
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They can eat some "magic meat" and boom! World peace!
 
Hello! I have just a quick question that maybe somebody on this forum could answer.

I have decided to contribute a second time in order to get another copy of the game to send to a friend of mine. Does it work in this way? I know I should have probably asked before re-contributing but...
 
@Oreo you think you can help him out here?
I'd tag another person on the project but IDK who else is on it
 
ribaluigi said:
Hello! I have just a quick question that maybe somebody on this forum could answer.

I have decided to contribute a second time in order to get another copy of the game to send to a friend of mine. Does it work in this way? I know I should have probably asked before re-contributing but...
Send a message to the campaign organizers and they'll likely help you out.
 
Cellsai said:
Send a message to the campaign organizers and they'll likely help you out.
I have followed your suggestion. By the way, I think that they could add a multiple copies tier. For example, I have really liked the possibility on Steam of buying 4 copies of Skullgirls. In the end, fighting games are amazing to be played with friends and buying multiple copies, at a slightly discounted price, is really useful.
 
Multiple copies are usually a thing for....actual released games though. Besides the fact that the game isn't even approved on Steam Greenlight at the moment (the biggest issue with promising something like this), figuring out how to distrubute stuff from big crowdfunds is a big hassle in of itself. Setting up multiple copies for how limited such a thing would be for a tier just sounds like more work.

At least, more work than just....giving money to your friends to back it themselves?
 
ribaluigi said:
I have followed your suggestion. By the way, I think that they could add a multiple copies tier.
Maybe not as a tier, since that would require every other tier to have "this tier+additional game copy(ies)" variants to satisfy everyone, which would be pure chaos.

Why not as add-ons, though. To provide a quick example, Pillars of Eternity had this (scroll down to Add-Ons to check it). Basically how it worked was that during the campaign you donated the money for whatever tier you picked + some additional $, and after the campaign ended you filled an inquiry form to state how many and what add-ons you want to receive for your surplus $.

I'm not sure how difficult it would be logistically, though. If it matters PoE was crowdfunded on Kickstarter rather than Indiegogo, + if memory serves Obsidian handled the inquiries on a separate site, which might be more organisational work than Mane6 planned. Still, could be worth the effort, if enough people were interested in grabbing an extra copy for a friend or few.
 
Oh, you are right guys. It seems more complicated than I thought.
 
The reasoning behind furry tales being darker than other stories I think stems from the author starting from a realistic place, that the animal kingdom is a harsh and uncaring place. Which is why almost all animals that were in captivity for a long time can't survive in the wilderness again. Having nature that is mostly peaceful where lions make friends with zebras feels completely foreign to us, and possibly leads to crap like Madagascar. Which by the way was about domesticated zoo animals that found themselves out in the wild.

Human tales often start from the premise that civilization has overtaken the natural world and we are on top of the food chain, and then something disrupts that state of being. Which this game is similarly doing by having the ungulates the undisputed rulers of the land before the predators returned.

So while humans conquered the predators of the wild too, we often don't go so far back in a story to mention it as an important detail.
 
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didn't the woman behind the designs and lore of this game worked in some episodes of Powerpuff Girls?

I mean, it was cartoon for childs, but a lot of episodes had some really interesting stuff happening.
 
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That was unbelievably edgy
 
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Sotherius said:
didn't the woman behind the designs and lore of this game worked in some episodes of Powerpuff Girls?

Yep. Lauren Faust is actually married to Craig McCracken, the creator of Powerpuff Girls and they have collaborated on a bunch of stuff including co-creating Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends.

Remember that cool episode Equal Rights where a female supervillain uses a feminist agenda to justify her crime spree and the girls wrongly give her a pass? Faust wrote it but she doesn't like it anymore because it wasn't empowering or socially aware enough or something.
 
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ScarletGungnir said:
They can eat some "magic meat" and boom! World peace!
[shrugs]
Depends on the type of magic. There's magic that lets you augment things without completely breaking the laws of physics, i.e. you cant make something out of nothing. In that case they'd need a source of meat or something in extremely high amounts of protein and nutrients that carnivores can digest, absorb enough nutrients from, and can also be mass produced without running out of magic or other necessary resources.
 
Or y'know, things that eat other things are bad so put em in prison. Over analyzing is kinda silly when we're talking about the subject matter here.

"In episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones."
 
They are putting up more lore now everyday on the official site.

Now I'm hoping for a nighttime stage with transparent predator ghosts in the background.

Also, even the game's furry fandom in the comments is overwhelmingly reading too much into the story and treating the predators like the victims.
 
Okie Dokie said:
They are putting up more lore now everyday on the official site.

Now I'm hoping for a nighttime stage with transparent predator ghosts in the background.

Soooo you just want this stage then?

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