[Untagged Spoilers Allowed Here] The Spoiler Discussion Thread (for Umbrella's story and onwards)

[Corridor89]

I guess it was to be expected that there would be some tomfoolery that would have eventually prevented the Skull Heart from breaking/reforming incorrectly. Y'know, since the plot has to escalate eventually.
Maybe Valentine will have something to do with the Skull Heart shards. Seems like it would help accomplish her goals. Maybe Peacock will be responsible; shattering the Skull Heart so that Marie can live. Double will be mad, but then again, she still has Umbrella.

 

[Chrono_Tata]

I always thought Marie was just as "powerful" as she was because she's only ever fought in the catacombs of the Grand Cathedral/Final Atrium, where she has immediate access to virtually limitless resources. Similarly, I thought the whole reason Valentine and her team lost to Marie (and Double) was because they challenged her in No Man's Land.

I know she's not powerless without corpses lying around, but a limit to her resources could mean a fairer fight?
Though I guess this goes out the window the moment you put playable Marie into Final Atrium or No Man's Land, lol.

Lore-wise then yeah, Marie and Skullgirls in general would be limited in power if they don't have corpses around they can use, but I think even their innate power is a force to be contended with. Like how Marie just burned up the Medici goons in the SGM story in seconds.

I guess it was to be expected that there would be some tomfoolery that would have eventually prevented the Skull Heart from breaking/reforming incorrectly. Y'know, since the plot has to escalate eventually.
Maybe Valentine will have something to do with the Skull Heart shards. Seems like it would help accomplish her goals. Maybe Peacock will be responsible; shattering the Skull Heart so that Marie can live. Double will be mad, but then again, she still has Umbrella.

Yeah, I was thinking that one theory is that it might be something to do with the Labs coming up with ways to "destroy" the Skull Heart that still leaves shards of it that could be collected, as we know that Lab 0 is trying to retrieve the Skull Heart for study.

 

[missingno]

skull heart destroyed whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

 

[tristePinguino]

The Skull-Heart-shard theory is fun, but I can't help but wonder if Marie's "survival" could also have something to do with the fact that the Skull Heart never had full control over her.

 

[Sun]

The Skull-Heart-shard theory is fun, but I can't help but wonder if Marie's "survival" could also have something to do with the fact that the Skull Heart never had full control over her.

she is simply too much willed to die

 

[Brawlitup99]

The Skull Heart shard seems to be an explanation on why Marie survives despite the Skull Heart being destroyed. Lore-wise, it probably is also supposed to explain how she can have a playable version that's not an extremely powerful Skullgirl, but rather a "depowered" Skullgirl with only a shard of the Heart rather than a full one.

If that's the case it could be possible (and would make sense for her Story Mode) that Marie references one or more of the Story Mode endings, though which one exactly it is could really be any one of them. The trailer shows Peacock which could suggest it's either after her or Big Band's story, but that shouldn't really be evidence IMO since Peacock could show up at any point in any story mode depending on how they wanna spin it.

My money's on the her story mode being aftermath of Eliza's story--her post-credit scene was a notable tease and would allow for a lot of lore and story elements to develop if it's Marie hunting down Eliza instead of the other way around.

 

[Chrono_Tata]

If that's the case it could be possible (and would make sense for her Story Mode) that Marie references one or more of the Story Mode endings, though which one exactly it is could really be any one of them. The trailer shows Peacock which could suggest it's either after her or Big Band's story, but that shouldn't really be evidence IMO since Peacock could show up at any point in any story mode depending on how they wanna spin it.

My money's on the her story mode being aftermath of Eliza's story--her post-credit scene was a notable tease and would allow for a lot of lore and story elements to develop if it's Marie hunting down Eliza instead of the other way around.

Personally I think it will actually be an "original" timeline. It was previously confirmed that, in the canon timeline, Marie actually would require several people working together to beat her. Rather than continuing any one character's what-if stories, I think they might pick it up where Marie would be "canonically" defeated. In the same way that we had been getting glimpses of the canon timeline through other what-if stories, like the Lab 8 attack, destruction of the Medici Tower, etc.

Analysing the trailer, in the "flashbacks" right before the scene with Marie and Peacock is shown, we see several characters final scenes with the Skull Heart from their stories, including Filia, Ms. Fortune, Painwheel, Big Band and Parasoul. Perhaps these are the characters that work together in order to defeat Marie?

Notably Peacock herself was not shown in that sequence. Perhaps she didn't have a hand in defeating Marie, and only arrived later and found her?

 

[Sun]

Personally I think it will actually be an "original" timeline. It was previously confirmed that, in the canon timeline, Marie actually would require several people working together to beat her. Rather than continuing any one character's what-if stories, I think they might pick it up where Marie would be "canonically" defeated. In the same way that we had been getting glimpses of the canon timeline through other what-if stories, like the Lab 8 attack, destruction of the Medici Tower, etc.

Analysing the trailer, in the "flashbacks" right before the scene with Marie and Peacock is shown, we see several characters final scenes with the Skull Heart from their stories, including Filia, Ms. Fortune, Painwheel, Big Band and Parasoul. Perhaps these are the characters that work together in order to defeat Marie?

Notably Peacock herself was not shown in that sequence. Perhaps she didn't have a hand in defeating Marie, and only arrived later and found her?

it just makes me even more curios to what her story mode gonna be you know and what comes after

 

[Zazz]

With marie finally being real, i hope the teams at HV have the ability to retire her boss form and have all the story/arcade mode appearances of her replaced with actual gameplay marie.

 

[Corridor89]

I keep forgetting to ask, but does anyone else think Aileen is supposed to resemble Anne Frank? Keeping with the themes of her being named after Aileen Quinn, who played the titular Little Orphan Annie in '82, her appearance was taken from yet another famous Ann(i)e. And maybe there's a connection between Aileen's essay and Anne Frank's diary????

 

[Chrono_Tata]

I keep forgetting to ask, but does anyone else think Aileen is supposed to resemble Anne Frank? Keeping with the themes of her being named after Aileen Quinn, who played the titular Little Orphan Annie in '82, her appearance was taken from yet another famous Ann(i)e. And maybe there's a connection between Aileen's essay and Anne Frank's diary????

That's kiiiinda a reach for me. She's just meant to look like Annie but with a different hair I think. I don't think her hair looks particularly like Anne Frank's apart from being wavy.