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Attack On Titan/Shingeki no Kyojin

Attack On Titan

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so is this series still grimdark and rageahol or did it actually get good
 
Ruin said:
so is this series still grimdark and rageahol or did it actually get good
its still good. it never lets up on the grimdark. theres still rage, but not so much of unbridled rage as it is righteous fury.
 
also do they ever go back to the whole "humanity struggling for a chance at existence" thing or is it still naked people punching each other
 
One of the things I really like about Attack on Titan is that it doesn't pay any attention to Gender at all. In this show a character's sex has absolutely no bearing on the story, EXACTLY HOW IT SHOULD BE. Annie flipped Reiner and the dudes a fucking tank and no one made any stupid remark that he got beaten by a girl. Also people are killed and eaten indiscriminately, no one get's any special treatment because of their gender.
I hate it when someone writes a 'strong female character' just for the sake of writing a 'strong female character'. DAMNIT JUST WRITE A STRONG CHARACTER, THEIR GENDER DOESN'T MATTER.

Ruin don't be a scrub, this show has always been good. Now stop starting shit.
 
Ruin said:
also do they ever go back to the whole "humanity struggling for a chance at existence" thing or is it still naked people punching each other
well, those go hand in hand, obviously. everything boils down to giant naked people punching each other.

Denizen said:
One of the things I really like about Attack on Titan is that it doesn't pay any attention to Gender at all. In this show a character's sex has absolutely no bearing on the story, EXACTLY HOW IT SHOULD BE. Annie flipped Reiner and the dudes a fucking tank and no one made any stupid remark that he got beaten by a girl. Also people are killed and eaten indiscriminately, no one get's any special treatment because of their gender.
I hate it when someone writes a 'strong female character' just for the sake of writing a 'strong female character'. DAMNIT JUST WRITE A STRONG CHARACTER, THEIR GENDER DOESN'T MATTER.

Ruin don't be a scrub, this show has always been good. Now stop starting shit.
its not even that. the characters have their own quirks, their own flaws, their own personalities. whether its Mikasa's obsession of protecting Erin to Sasha being selfish when it comes to food. sure they CAN be strong, but why make that their only defining feature? why limit them to something so fucking menial to their character by forcing them to act accordingly to their power level? its fuckin' dumb. stop focusing on social justice cokcamamey bullshit everyone is sick about and just focus on writing GOOD characters.

Also, Ruin isnt doing anything wrong. he's just being Ruin.
 
Hajime Isayama is the writer right?
That guy fucking gets it, he's good writer. I have to say something though. I'm not saying a character's strength should be their only defining characteristic. What I am saying is that a person's strength does in fact have an effect on their character. Yes, characters at certain 'power levels' will act a certain way, that's human nature.
For example, a person of Levi's strength would never behave like Armin, and vice versa.
The important part is to write those characters in their respective power level correctly, and with no regard to their gender, race, or creed. Keep those things in mind and you have a good character in the making.

That's why I like Levi so much. Isayama considered what a soldier of Levi's caliber would be like and he hit the nail on the head, the same goes for Mikasa. Levi and Mikasa are both very strong characters with similar personalities, but they are still noticeably different from each other. They just share some of the same traits that strong people usually share. As a good writer Isayama recognized this and made sure that Levi and Mikasa weren't just genderbent versions of each other.

Unlike most other writers Isayama really makes an effort to make sure his characters are sufficiently Human before putting them on paper.
 
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I'd also like to specify that when I say strength, I'm talking about fighting ability.
I'm not talking about strength of character which is an entirely different thing.

Mikasa is a very skilled fighter, but I don't think she's a strong willed person.
Eren and Levi are strong willed people, but that's an entirely different topic.
 
Sanoblaze said:
well, those go hand in hand, obviously. everything boils down to giant naked people punching each other.
I'm talking more about how the main form of combat (the Omnidirectional Gear or whatever the kids are calling it these days) is discarded fairly early on in favor of Eren and his giant naked punches. And now the characters who seem to be able to get anything done with the things are Mikasa and Levi the Hedgehog.
It just kinda rubs me wrong to see a cool idea go to waste in favor of giants punching other giants, this coming from an indisputable fan of giant things punch each other.

plus when the main puncher is a character I can't related to (or even like all that much), it just loses the appeal
 
Denizen said:
I'd also like to specify that when I say strength, I'm talking about fighting ability.
I'm not talking about strength of character which is an entirely different thing.

Mikasa is a very skilled fighter, but I don't think she's a strong willed person.
Eren and Levi are strong willed people, but that's an entirely different topic.

I'm not saying having powerful characters is a bad thing, the problem is that its the only thing people seem to focus on. (I wasnt referring to you in my statement)

this series takes the weaker and weak willed characters and makes them the best from their weaknesses.

Jean overcoming his fear.
Armin's intellect alone (too many scenes to name) is amazing and the way it's handled is flawless!
and theres so many more!

characters acting according to their power levels are fine, but if thats the only thing they have going for them: fuck. that.

Ruin said:
I'm talking more about how the main form of combat (the Omnidirectional Gear or whatever the kids are calling it these days) is discarded fairly early on in favor of Eren and his giant naked punches. And now the characters who seem to be able to get anything done with the things are Mikasa and Levi the Hedgehog.
It just kinda rubs me wrong to see a cool idea go to waste in favor of giants punching other giants, this coming from an indisputable fan of giant things punch each other.

plus when the main puncher is a character I can't related to (or even like all that much), it just loses the appeal

eh, it does seem more like the titans have gotten accustomed to the manuever gears ands even then the gears dont really give them much of an advantage if its one on one. Erin isnt bad but he's certainly not the best. its more of a case of how the rest of the cast are so much better than him.
 
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gee it's like having a strong protagonist is important or something

on the real tho, the only character I like is Armin. kid goes from pissing himself to psychological warfare, and that's cool
Mikasa is way too static (and dear god the incest vibes it's like tales of legendia all over again) and when her entire motivation is a rage machine that I don't like, it's hard to care about her
never cared for jean either
everyone else is super boring (sasha killing connie's dad on foot was cool though)
and the titan shifters are god awful. If Isayama thinks he can get away with trying to make us sympathize with people who are out to annihilate humanity (you know, the side we want to root for), then he's got some kind of defect
 
Ruin said:
gee it's like having a strong protagonist is important or something

on the real tho, the only character I like is Armin. kid goes from pissing himself to psychological warfare, and that's cool
Mikasa is way too static (and dear god the incest vibes it's like tales of legendia all over again) and when her entire motivation is a rage machine that I don't like, it's hard to care about her
never cared for jean either
dude, Aremin is my favorite character in the series. He's the greatest. Shota-He-man 2weeksever
I'm not saying Eren is a bad protagonist in any way. he's fine for a character still learning how to do what he is able to do. its justr that he's not the most interesting character.
I have never seen Mikasa's feelings toward Eren as an incest thing: 1. I dont see it as love (especially considering the last thing Erin's mom asked her to do before she died) and 2. even if it was love, they arent related at all. no blood relation whatsoever. adoptive relations shouldn't mean anything in terms of a relationship and most definitely shouldn't count as incest. and 3. I do not like the awful stereotype of if someone of the opposite gender shows affection and care towards you, its clearly they want you in their pants.

I'm not gonna get into the rest because I would prefer you put that stuff in spoilers.
 
Sanoblaze said:
I'm not saying having powerful characters is a bad thing, the problem is that its the only thing people seem to focus on. (I wasnt referring to you in my statement)
That's a relief, I was about to get all up in your business if you had accused me of something like that.

As for the primary method of combat in the series, compared to how often the 3D Maneuver Gear is used Eren fighting as a Titan is relatively rare. Likewise, proper skilled use of the 3D Maneuver Gear is also pretty rare.
I think this scarcity of power is done on purpose to emphasize how difficult it is to kill Titans.

Also you're all nuts for not liking Eren or any of the other characters. Also it's too late for spoilers.
 
Denizen said:
That's a relief, I was about to get all up in your business if you had accused me of something like that.

As for the primary method of combat in the series, compared to how often the 3D Maneuver Gear is used Eren fighting as a Titan is relatively rare. Likewise, proper skilled use of the 3D Maneuver Gear is also pretty rare.
I think this scarcity of power is done on purpose to emphasize how difficult it is to kill Titans.

Also you're all nuts for not liking Eren or any of the other characters. Also it's too late for spoilers.
I can see why people dont like Eren. he's not the greatest character but he's certainly not bad.

and NO! humanity must receive their grim reminders at their own pace! this series can't have spoilers! we can prevent them!
 
well since spoilers are fair game
people being titans was super obvious and Eren being able to control them is the most cop-outtingest shit in the world

peace yo
 
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Ruin said:
well since spoilers are fair game
people being titans was super obvious and Eren being able to control them is the most cop-outtingest shit in the world

peace yo
I think his ability should have been retarded strength though tbh. out of all the titans he fights his body just falls apart on impact, why could it be something like he can increase the centrifugal force of his own attacks. I mean, its super hype to see that his own attacks could destroy HIS OWN BODY. thats beyond retarded strong!
 
I would understand putting spoilers in the Anime/Manga General Discussion, but this is THE Attack on Titan Thread. We should be able to talk freely here. If anyone who gets spoiled by this thread it's their own fault for clicking it.
I'll be respectful though, I'll start using spoilers from now on.
I fucking love Eren. His iron will and unbridled Titan fury is a thing of beauty. Mikasa herself put it perfectly, watching one Titan tear apart another in a fit of berserk violence is exhilarating. Every punch, every stomp, every righteous roar is so cathartic to watch. Unlike Mikasa or Armin, Eren never contemplated suicide, he would never even entertain the thought. The concept of failure doesn't register with him. Humanity would have won by now if everyone was more like him.
As for his Titan Power, I think it would have been cooler if he kept the Flame Cloak, though I'm not sure if that's an Anime only thing.
No, no peace, not after that.
 
you know what denizen, you are right. spoilers are fine, just be sparing with them. some people only watch the anime, not read the manga (even though they should be doing both) (also support the official release of the manga)

and again, Eren's titan power in canon is not so great. it would have been a lot better if his power was more combat heavy.
 
Sanoblaze said:
and again, Eren's titan power in canon is not so great. it would have been a lot better if his power was more combat heavy.
Well he's already super dangerous, so I'm OK with giving him a more strategic ability. It's also ironic that he would use other Titans to further his own goal of destroying them all. There's a sense of perfect revenge in that ability.

I would still rather he catch fire though, that shit is badass.
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Looks like the creator of gundam needs a cruel reminder.
 
Is it weird that I like this English fandub of Guren no Yumiya more than the song itself?

 
shoryusatsu999 said:
Is it weird that I like this English fandub of Guren no Yumiya more than the song itself?
Nah it's not that weird, I mean that really could have been done better but it still sounds good.
It makes me entertain the thought of how good it would sound if an English version were to be done professionally.
 
Denizen said:
Nah it's not that weird, I mean that really could have been done better but it still sounds good.
It makes me entertain the thought of how good it would sound if an English version were to be done professionally.
hell, just have shadowlink do it.
 
I'm not all that impressed by the singing so far but these lyrics are fucking incredible.
"Your crimson arrow rips through the twilight, this is the moment for war!"
That's just so damn good.
 
check out the lullaby version made by the girl who wrote the lyrics for the video I linked.
 
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Sanoblaze said:
Check out the lullaby version made by the girl who wrote the lyrics for the video I linked.
I didn't think such a battle hungry song could be turned into a lullaby and still sound good.

On the topic of music, am I the only one that likes Jiyuu no Tsubasa as much as Guren no Yumiya?
 
who would want to voice whom for the english dub?

Denizen said:
I didn't think such a battle hungry song could be turned into a lullaby and still sound good.

On the topic of music, am I the only one that likes Jiyuu no Tsubasa as much as Guren no Yumiya?

no. Wings of Freedom is amazing in every way. it reflects how super metals this series is. the only thing more metal than this is....
 
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Erin - Jason Liebrecht
Armin - Vic Mignogna
Mikasa - Brina Palencia
Annie - Colleen Clickenbeard
Jean - Eric Vale
Krista - Kara Edwards
Levi - Brandon Potter (the dude needs more voice work!)
Ymir - Clarine Harp
Connie - Todd Haberkorn
Marco - Sean Schemmel
Erwin - J. Michael Tatum
Sasha - Martha Harms

more to come
 
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considering that Vic Mignogna and Todd Haberkorn don't even work in Texas anymore
you might need to rethink that list there
 
Ruin said:
considering that Vic Mignogna and Todd Haberkorn don't even work in Texas anymore
you might need to rethink that list there
I'm sure Vic is freelance considering he's done voice work for Viz while he was doing voicework for Finu as well.
these are more who I'd prefer to play them anyway.
 
I had a dream where I was zipping through New York City in 3D Maneuver Gear.

It was probably one of my most memorable dreams, just thought I'd share that.
 
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No, he's based in LA almost completely now

the last role I can remember him in from Funi is a bit part in Panty & Stocking
 
he's also been in other bit roles though too.

and if Todd was able to come back for his role of Natsu I don't see why Vic couldn't come back for a new role.
 
DID YOU GUYS HEAR?!
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ATTACK ON TITAN IS ON NETFLIX!

 
Night Phyre said:
I guess I have to give it a chance, now :|
try to go in neutral and dont be too hype for it. thats just me with anything but go into it however you feel like going into it.
 
Sanoblaze said:
try to go in neutral and dont be too hype for it. thats just me with anything but go into it however you feel like going into it.
Real talk, I can't help but go in with a sense of dread. I just finished Aku No Hana not too long ago, so I'm fearful this will fall terribly, terribly short of that. I hope it's just as good as the tumblr echo chamber suggests, but I just have the worst feeling that it's going to be the worst kind of teenage-aimed grimdark dreck.

God, I want to be wrong. Please let me be wrong.
 
I would say its almost more berserkian but add in the 3D manuever gear stuff to it. if that makes sense.

I know I am a huge offender of overhyping things, so please dont take the overhype I have been giving to heart.
 
Night Phyre said:
God, I want to be wrong. Please let me be wrong.
Don't worry, you are wrong on so many levels that the average human mind cannot even comprehend it.
In fact, if you don't enjoy Attack on Titan even slightly then there is something fundamentally wrong with you.
That might sound rude but I'm not talking about you specifically, I just find it really hard to trust people who say that they dislike the show, it's like hating The Walking Dead or Breaking Bad.
 
I can see why some people hate the walking dead and breaking bad, whether it be because of the genres or what not. I think it would be best if we retained the nice guy image that the AoT fans have given themselves.

I will say its comparable to a modern Berserk.
 
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