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Blood for the Blood Goddess! Eliza BETA Gameplay Discussion

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Calypsx said:
DHC only super? My friend is not going to be very happy with missing out on a cool fancy super move. She really is only interested in playing solo Eliza. Hoping there's some sort of exception for solo players.

You know... did they clearly say that DHC means interaction with a team member in this case? Eliza basically is 2 characters, what if she can cancel this super into her others or Sekhmets?

DDB said:
Since when has there ever been an exception for solo players?

Since release, buffed health and damage, remember?
 
That's more a general ratio thing, though. There are no mechanics EXCLUSIVE to solos.
 
Detective Q said:
Since release, buffed health and damage, remember?
Duos also get similar buffs vs Trios, so that's not much of an exception. The only unique aspect Solos get is downs after a health bar is depleted.

Anything that exclusively interacts with teams (DHCs themselves, assists, regenerating health) has so far never got an exception so that it can be usable by solos.

Molly's whole suggested playstyle was going to be that she only really worked on teams, offering buff supers that could only be called when she was not on point, so there's already a precedence for team only mechanics being thought about.
 
Hmmm, DHC-only super...Anyone notice that we've never seen Molly and Eliza in the same fight? :PUN:

Cellsai said:
Molly's whole suggested playstyle was going to be that she only really worked on teams, offering buff supers that could only be called when she was not on point, so there's already a precedence for team only mechanics being thought about.
Well, at least we had a solo-preferring character in Adam, but I know that's not really the same thing.
 
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chickenwithtie said:
Of course he can, pff.

So, will we get an update in the Beta? Today? Tomorrow?

You know Mike, when an update comes out the time it does is random. I just wish people would just sit back and enjoy the wonderful summer air and not worry about our Goddess ( she's "fleshing" out just fine. )

BlToQeyCYAAC2ww.png See? nothing wrong here, it's perfect.
 
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TechPowah said:
Hmmm, DHC-only super...Anyone notice that we've never seen Molly and Eliza in the same fight? :PUN:

Molly = Eliza

Albus and Horace = Roxie and Panzerfaust

I think Solos get the exception that only the bravest of people play them in a world dominated by three man teams
 
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Hmmm I wonder if 236+LK / QCF+LK is an animation that they don't know where to add, because is ok if Eliza calls someone to tackle the enemy but... why with a lounge chair? it is like that animation was for other thing.
 
Because she's rich and can afford to throw hand-made lounge chairs around
What's the point of having lots of money if you don't slap it on people' faces

enjoy the wonderful summer air

Ah yes. The mosquito bites, the steady smell of sweat and the physiological need to rip my skin off because fuck it's too hot outside. Truly the best time of the year
 
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Sting said:
Hmmm I wonder if 236+LK / QCF+LK is an animation that they don't know where to add, because is ok if Eliza calls someone to tackle the enemy but... why with a lounge chair? it is like that animation was for other thing.

You mean Eliza's Time out pose, aye. it's called using all of your resources, the animators might had just too much to work on with Eliza, so some things had to be used again or changed to fit with Eliza, ie: Sehkmet having hyper armor might because LZ doesn't have enough time or money to give sehkmet all the multiple hitstun animations, knock down animations, burst animation, throw/ throw tech animations, and ground teching animations. Like what Mike said Eliza is already 1.5 of a character this IS alot of stuff that is on her. LZ is just being efficient and smart with all of their stuff.

Also
chickenwithtie said:
Because she's rich and can afford to throw hand-made lounge chairs around
What's the point of having lots of money if you don't slap it on people' faces
That is a valid point as well.
 
Did I not tell ya'll she was gonna make Albus and Horace throw chairs at people?? Ya'll didn't believe me. I'm not sure how I feel about no level 1s and a DHC only super. That kinda makes me sad. But it's pretty much now confirmed that Eliza eats zoners for breakfast no questions asked.
 
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Cellsai said:
2 new palettes.
I saw three.
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Anna Williams [Tekken] (?)
Urien [Street Fighter III] (like the one Zazz made in the fan made palettes topic)
Tharja [Fire Emblem]
(Oichi [Sengoku Basara] still nowhere to be seen.)

It's also noteworthy that when selecting a assist, the moves are properly named now.

I'd make a little fanfare about guessing the taunt input but it was so remarkably obvious, I'll take the modest route.
That said, I now claim Beowulf's taunt input will be LP, MP, Forward, LK, MK. :P

chickenwithtie said:
The mosquito bites, the steady smell of sweat and the physiological need to rip my skin off because fuck it's too hot outside. Truly the best time of the year
+1 know that feel
 
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Oh come on it's not that bad... I'm not a Summer guy Fall/ Winter And I'm finding this weather pretty go- yeah okay Summer is bullshit. I love you AC.

Lives inside house for the rest of the season.
 
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I kinda want to say that i feel disppointed about eliza.. lol already did, but still, she is really cool, and has some BEAUTIFUL animations and she has sekhmet, AND albus and horace, i was really hyped for the blood mechanic, but meh im sure mike has a surprise for us, not the blood mechNic, but something really cool
 
Here's a movelist, if anyone's interested (always have to scavenge the stream for something...I guess the griffon IS my spirit animal, after all!):
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"Upper Khat"...AH!:PUN:


Take notes, princess. Your bikes are weak and ugly. Kill them with furniture!
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The speed and the ridiculous amount of space they take kinda hints at the potential as a assist. Probably a better choice than c.HK. Dunno.

Buncha colored frames: s.LP, c.LK, c.MP, c.HP, dash, air dash and and air back dash (also battle intro and parts of time out but those weren't shown).
 
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Yeah I was thinking of doing that one or Horace's divekick as an assist. I'll have to test stuff first though.
 
Balder said:
I saw three.
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Urien [Street Fighter III] (like the one Zazz made in the fan made palettes topic)
Urien just felt like a cool idea to me. He's tall and imposingly brutal but also regal in a way.
TechPowah said:
Taste the power of the sun, motherhubbards! :PUN:
I hope she gets a Dark Souls style PRAISE THE SUN! line in there too.
 
Denizen said:
Pfft Hehehehehe...
Took me a bit to connect the dots but once I did - MUH CHILDHOOD!

yellowflash26 said:
Yeah I was thinking of doing that one or Horace's divekick as an assist. I'll have to test stuff first though.
Seems we have another Bella in our hands. The amount of good assist choices is too damn high!
I might use Osiris Spiral if it proves its worth as a decent lockdown choice. Together with Napalm Pillar (DP) and H LNL (tank), I'll have a bona fide trifecta of scrubby assists! :3

Zazz said:
He's tall and imposingly brutal but also regal in a way.
It's the sideburns. Gotta respect the 'burns.


Anywho, with the possibility of the chariot trample being the DHC Blockbuster and the air Blockbuster very likely be the air grab dive bomb, will she have three Blockbusters and the third be the one shared by both her and Sekhmet and it also be the blood hippos? Or are these blood hippos nothing but a red herring? ....the blood hippos are a red herring?! What a vexatatious notionality! o_0
 
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You don't appear to be as knowledgeable about Eliza as you say you are.

Blood hippos are her sMP.
 
@Balder Yeah. The ground one will be shared by her and Sekhmet. Idk about blood hippos.

@DDB Those are Serpopards not hippos.
 
And once again Lab Zero proves to make some of the best names for moves; special, normals, or otherwise
 
Balder said:
That said, I now claim Beowulf's taunt input will be LP, MP, Forward, LK, MK. :P

I think the better question is who's gonna get LP, LP, forward, LK, HP


EDIT: I just looked it up, I forgot Morrigan had 3 of those damn supers. For some reason I always remember Cryptic Needle and Darkness (Luminous) Illusion, but the third one is the Tennessee Titans of supers.
 
Annie.
 
I wish I knew what these inputs are referring to.
 
Annie deserves Raging Demon and you know it.
 
LP, LP, f, LK, HP is either Akuma's Raging Demon or Morrigan/Lilith's Darkness (Luminous) Illusion
f, HP, MP, LP, f is Morrigan's Cryptic Needle
LP, HK, MK, MK is Hsien-Ko's Tenraiha
LP, MP, f, LK, MK is Talbain's super. I forget what it's called. I never really played him.

Everyone but Akuma is from the Darkstalkers/Vampire Savoirs series
 
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Oh gosh Albus.

Ooooh gosh

I think I know what I'm going as for the next PAX
 
Domo said:
DDB i swear to god if you keep it up with these stupid posts
Hey hey hey, they asked.
 
So lk summon is going to be a physical hit? Can't wait to try and do Val's lvl2 counter against that.
 
Fedora_Ninja said:
So lk summon is going to be a physical hit? Can't wait to try and do Val's lvl2 counter against that.

It'll freeze Horus and Albus?
 
Fedora_Ninja said:
So lk summon is going to be a physical hit? Can't wait to try and do Val's lvl2 counter against that.

I wonder what would happen. Cuz Eliza isn't the one doing the hit. She goes back to idle when they are moving the chair.
 
Ein Blitz said:
It'll freeze Horus and Albus?

Nope, my guess is that they are going to be counted as projectile physicals, Mike wouldn't make both summons pure physical attacks for it would just make for some dumb bugs ie: Val counter, and don't hedge your bets on Bella being able to reflect them either.
 
Not pleased at all with the blood mechanic being ditched. Kills all my hype for this character
 
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alexpi said:
I think the better question is who's gonna get LP, LP, forward, LK, HP


EDIT: I just looked it up, I forgot Morrigan had 3 of those damn supers. For some reason I always remember Cryptic Needle and Darkness (Luminous) Illusion, but the third one is the Tennessee Titans of supers.
The classic. Indeed.
Well, Pea getting the Tenrai Ha input makes perfect sense and Eliza having Anakaris' has some sense of affinity (likewise for Beowulf getting Talbain's for his) but I don't really see much of Morrigan's super in Big Band's so the connection isn't entirely necessary. That said, I would probably give it to Fukua because doppelgängers (effect could be giving a hit of armor to her QCB+K moves).

I'm not certain of my fighting game chronology, but wasn't Ms Aensland rocking that input before Akuma? If so, it should be the Darkness Illusion input, not the Raging Demon input. INPUT APPROPRIATION! :3

Morrigan had two of those in Nightwarriors - Darkness Illusion and Astral Vision (that later became her Dark Force skill) and in VS, she has DI, CN and a throw? *checks wikia* Even though I always associated the correct name and input, I thought CN was the pew pew pew Super. How mortifying! -_-"

alexpi said:
LP, MP, f, LK, MK is Talbain's super. I forget what it's called.
Moment Slice. He stabs the opponent in the gut with his claws and follows with a upward slash.
(I mention all this stuff not to preach to you but to give some context to those unfamiliar with the series. I don't mean to be condescending.)

Ninja said:
and don't hedge your bets on Bella being able to reflect them either.
Bella bounces them back as Lv3-sized diamonds. Eliza be like "Well, you win some, you lose some." *dashes off with loot*
:PUN:
 
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Oh, this makes me happy she looks amazing
and @Balder that is anna williams palette so now i'm even more excited lmfao
 
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