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Eliza Beta Combo Thread

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for eliza woudl you say that her keep away when back into a corner would be j.hk

what would be a good anti air for her when someone tries to jump in
 
5th of dismember said:
for eliza would you say that her keep away when back into a corner would be j.hk

what would be a good anti air for her when someone tries to jump in

1. you trying to say that if Eliza is in the corner, that the best move for her to do keep away would be j.hk? eh if I were to be jumping in the corner I would j.hp, air dash cancel into another j.hp it covers a nice amount of the screen and it doesn't push Eliza backwards farther into the corner.

2. Now if some one is jumping in on Eliza they are going to have very easy time taking her out. Eliza's DP is horrible at point blank range, her servant summons are too slow and would be easily countered. You only best bet would be Light Osiris Spiral, it covers a fair amount of vertical space ( Be careful it's hitbox does not cover the top of Eliza's head so somebody could still smack you if they are spaced just right.) , it comes out at an okay speed, and depending where you hit them you can follow up with s.lp jabs into a full combo. The only other move would be Sekhmet's Turn but that costs meter and is a high risk for if your opponent were to block the incoming attacks they could grab punish you.

Eliza is purely offensive the second she has to defend she is going to have a tough time, even more than Big Band. At least with him he can parry jump ins.
 
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5th of dismember said:
for eliza woudl you say that her keep away when back into a corner would be j.hk

what would be a good anti air for her when someone tries to jump in

I really don't get the first part but j.HK wouldn't be bad if you could bop them with it I guess... to get out of the corner. Dunno why you want to keep away with it though?

5MP is the best anti air she has. 5HK kinda works too and Upper Knat timed late works, LP for jumpins, MP or especially HP as a wall to keep them out of the air at range.
 
infected melon said:
Eliza 9.5k corner combo, you end up with 3/4th of a meter less than you started with.


Thanks @Manukiru for the starter.

Yo, I've been having trouble connecting the s.hk after the chair because it's not juggling in the air with me. Any advice on timing the chair? Also, does this work on anyone besides valentine?
 
Dinglejet said:
Yo, I've been having trouble connecting the s.hk after the chair because it's not juggling in the air with me. Any advice on timing the chair? Also, does this work on anyone besides valentine?
make sure you time sekhmets part like this: jMP (slight delay) jHP, makes them bounce higher, therefore youre able to hit the couch earlier and so they bounce higher for the followup sHK.
also make sure to summon the couch as soon as you regain control of eliza, the timings annoying sometimes.
Should work on every light character, doesnt work on heavies (para, bella, eliza, band, double)
 
any bnb sekhmet combos the ones I iaved tried are too long and hard( no pun intended) I need something easy to practice then go for the hard stuff
 
you looking for combos that use sekhmet in them, or combos that are only sekhmet doing things?
 
Ninja said:
DEM DOUBLE TAGS

Just to be sure, you know that a regular grab after stagger is techable, right?
 
RemiKz said:
Just to be sure, you know that a regular grab after stagger is techable, right?
NOOOOOOOOOOOoooo~ I never KNEW that. DO YOU WANT ME TO UPDATE THE DUMB IMPRACTICAL COMBO VIDEO FOR YOU? CAUSE I WILL.
 
Ninja said:
NOOOOOOOOOOOoooo~ I never KNEW that. DO YOU WANT ME TO UPDATE THE DUMB IMPRACTICAL COMBO VIDEO FOR YOU? CAUSE I WILL.
Nah its fine, just wanted to make sure you were aware of it :P
 
Here. It has no music and no editing because it's meant to be part of a larger combo video going on.


I like rivalries and color coordination so:
Eliza vs. Squigly (midscreen vs lights)
Odette Eliza vs. Skullheart Double (midscreen vs heavies)
Jedah Eliza vs. Morrigan Fortune (midscreen featuring Sekhmet)
I-No Eliza vs. Potemkin Bella (reset featuring Sekhmet)
C. Viper Eliza vs. Decapre Fukua (midscreen burst bait featuring Sekhmet)
I-No Eliza vs. Millia Rage Filia (corner burst bait)
Eliza Eliza vs. what I always believe to be Nina Painwheel :p (corner burst bait)
Dio Eliza vs. Valentine for copyright infringement (corner burst bait)
Cleopatra Eliza vs. Parasoul (corner counterhit combo)
 
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guitalex2007 said:
Here. It has no music and no editing because it's meant to be part of a larger combo video going on.
Ignoring the actual combos, if you are going to record things like that make sure that when you load state and record you aren't hearing them finish their ground tech VO and reply, it sounds bad.

Those were very helpful though, thanks!
 
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Mike_Z said:
Ignoring the actual combos, if you are going to record things like that make sure that when you load state and record you aren't hearing them finish their ground tech VO and reply, it sounds bad.

Those were very helpful though, thanks!
I'm not in charge of editing. I'm leaving enough room for that though.

I'm also ass at timing things. Might need to give myself a cue like tapping s.LP so that when I'm editing and moving the video frame by frame I'll know when to start and stop. I'm stupidly new at recording things.
 
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Much better, @Mike_Z? While the usefulness to your research might be minimal, I used a neutral jump then waited a couple of seconds so as to give me a cue where to cut. Did that help?
 
That feel when you see a more optimal combo than the one you put into a combo video, edited and uploaded already.

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edit: Off-topic, but wasn't that ^ an emoticon here? Can't get it to work.
 
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Nap1400 said:
I think it was on Skullheart 1.0. @Vadsamoht can we get that back please
It was much smaller though...

Anyways, here's the more optimal combo in a more hilarious format.

 
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I can't see that image, so I can't comment on it. It just appears as a monstrously long dropbox link.
 
yellow flash gave me a pretty basic beginner eliza combo

j lk, j mp, j hp>adc>j mp, j hp. The j lk

i was debating if i should extend this combo with a few extar moves for damage or leave it as is

id like to point out that when i do this move j.hp knocks light charcters back and im too far to continue combo is anyone having the same problem or is it me doing something wrong
 
5th of dismember said:
yellow flash gave me a pretty basic beginner eliza combo

j lk, j mp, j hp>adc>j mp, j hp. The j lk

i was debating if i should extend this combo with a few extar moves for damage or leave it as is

id like to point out that when i do this move j.hp knocks light charcters back and im too far to continue combo is anyone having the same problem or is it me doing something wrong
You need a slight delay after j.MP to get them to land on the ground.
 
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Oh hey that mess works midscreen. Let's do.

 
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i cant seem to pull it off ive keep trying and trying cant get knock down so i guess for now ill keep the combo like this
 

Hey look a combo with Painwheel in it that was almost almost meter neutral
 
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sorry if im spamming or asking too many questions

sHPx2 LTwir

cLK cMPx1 cHPx2 Dive Delay Dash cHK MHDP jMP adc jLK jMP jHP cLPx2 cMKx2 sHPx2 LTwirl sLK cMPx2 sHPx2 HTwirl Slaughter

for the shx2 ltwirl part are there any moves i can use instead on s.hpx2 to start it off
 
You can do c.hp(1)>L twirl for slightly less damage. Also after twirl it should be slk>c.mk(2). For the beginning, you can use shpx2>Dive instead of the c.hp because the bounce from that is obnoxious.
 
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i kinda like c.hp xx dive. The high bounce means i have time to decide if i want to go for (my) max damage or go for resets.
 
Yeah I guess. It just kinda messes up my timing for the followup. But like what kind of resets can you do off it? They ground bounce before recovery.
 
you can restand with j.mp stuff low to the ground and have plenty of reset chances. you can also do a j.lp sekhmet, j.mp sekhmet for weird crossup mixups.
 
Zevak said:
Hey look a combo with Painwheel in it that was almost almost meter neutral
Oh right her tag needs to be able to trigger IPS. (Zing!)
 
^ You all should be aware by now that this is where beta combos go to die.
 
Mike_Z said:
It's a legit bug! And Fortune's!
Oh I know. Just joking.
 
Mike_Z said:
Oh right her tag needs to be able to trigger IPS. (Zing!)

Ahhh, it's alright. The third tag is not universal at all anyway so I'll live with being able to tag back and forth once in a combo =-P
 
Zevak said:
Ahhh, it's alright. The third tag is not universal at all anyway so I'll live with being able to tag back and forth once in a combo =-P
Tag is one move. Doing it will take you to IPS Stage 5... So tagging back will trigger IPS on hit because tag was used.

Might be wrong.
 
guitalex2007 said:
Tag is one move. Doing it will take you to IPS Stage 5... So tagging back will trigger IPS on hit because tag was used.

Might be wrong.

Nope, you're not wrong. Just tried doing it with Double/Eliza. Oh well. I'll still have the ability to easily switch between the two with tags. Optimism.
 
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