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Frame Clean Up Errors Thread!

grossvamp said:
fukua has some weird pixels under her eye

Fukua has a lot of 1-3 pixel clean up errors. I'm not sure that they will be fixed, nor does it seem that they need to be fixed all that much.
 
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Welp.
 
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Ms. Fortune's forward dash. The fluff on her jeans(?) turns the same colour as her blood for one frame.
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Double's skin colour overlaps onto her eye in the end frame of her s.HK.
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Flotilla said:
@EU03 Bella's new taunt has some funky pixelation going on with her face's shading
Looks like something with the rendering from the lighting; it's affected in almost all her frames. Nothing I can do.
Gimmie$20$Dolla said:
Beos teeth are really dark in his taunt. Even if it's the lighting, they are really dark
Fixing this now.
evilben said:
is it just me or does ms fortunes stand block have tons of see through bits?
It does, because of the way the clean-up was done on those frames. It's not a quick or easy fix, but I'll look at what I can do.
Zazz said:
I think this may be a bug/error: during Filia's taunt, Samson's spittle is colored really dark blue.
Noted, will fix today.
grossvamp said:
dont know if i already posted this but fukua has some weird pixels under her eye
Can't really do much about this. The eye is an aliased shape, which is heavily affected by any scaling. I made a small tweak that makes it look slightly better, but that's all I can do.
 
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magolor said:
Ms. Fortune's forward dash. The fluff on her jeans(?) turns the same colour as her blood for one frame.
Not the blood (actually the bell colour), but fixed regardless.
magolor said:
Double's skin colour overlaps onto her eye in the end frame of her s.HK.
Fixed.
Cheesedragon said:
Welp.
Not clean-up error, but I guess it's something Mike will(?) look at.
 
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The eye issue was fixed but now Double's s.HK is doing this
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Peacock's c.hp? I mentioned in several threads that a part of her hair changes color after the shotgun blast.
 
magolor said:
The eye issue was fixed but now Double's s.HK is doing this
AGGGHHHHGH ok fixing it now.
 
Swiftfox-Dash said:
Peacock's c.hp? I mentioned in several threads that a part of her hair changes color after the shotgun blast.
Looks like the color from the shotgun blast was sticking around for a few extra frames. Fixed.
 
EU03 said:
This has already been addressed in the latest build!

Sorry my bad! Thank you!
 
magolor said:
The eye issue was fixed but now Double's s.HK is doing this
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Dude wow haha
 
In Peacock's palette LP MP HP (the Pajama palette, which has everything but Peacock herself the same color), Andy's iris' palette color are all colored the same as his sclera, instead of the red color it's supposed to be.
 
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Zephyrel said:
In Peacock's palette LP MP HP (the Pajama palette, which has everything but Peacock herself the same color), Andy's iris' palette color are all colored the same as his sclera, instead of the red color it's supposed to be.
That's a limitation of the colour map, not an error. Sorry, but it can't be fixed.
 
No idea if this is the right place to post it or it would be better in the "Last Beta Suggestions" thread, but this seemed like the better place overall?
Not really a clean up error but sorta related I suppose or .. something. Apologies if this is in the wrong place!
-- Fukua L.Shadow turns transparent very slowly and late, causing this:
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It goes almost fully into the opponent before fully disappearing; has an entire char length less range than it seems to have
That makes it very very difficult to discern when it is going to it - which is both a hassle for the Fukua and for the opponent (most notably for Bellas trying to reflect)
It instantly disappearing after the active frames run out is probably an awful idea, but perhaps make the fadeout a bit quicker? If at all possible without looking ugly

Surely offtopic:
You recently changed the Robo Fortune Beams on Varia Suit and Gravity Suit palettes omg I love you thanks <3 Bzoom Bzoom
The Plasma Beam looks really really good too, now I got a bit of a palette dilemma even :O

Slightly less offtopic.. still OT but I didn't know where else to toss it and since I was already posting here~ Sorry if this was a bad decision!:
As a finaaaaaaaal nitpick on the VariaSuit palette; I think it would be a bit better if the 2ndary effects (cHP sparkles etc) were Ice-Beam-Blue as well
For one I don't really know what (if anything) the pink is referencing, for two the 2ndary effect is what causes the opponent's colour (as they flash in that effect's colour after being hit),
and the Ice Beam palette turning the opponent blue would be.. quite fitting, I believe! That is what happens in the game, after all ;-)

Again, apologies if this post is entirely out of place, I just wasn't sure where else to post the things so it landed here :/

Thank you lots for all you guys are doing!! <3
 
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Beowulf has no eyes during his level 3 I dunno if that's intentional but yeah. No eyes. Iris? Pupil? I dunno eyes.
 
Just noticed that today too, I think it might be intentional though.
 
Oh MAN I've been waiting for a place like this:
Beowulf's chair being incorrectly colored and his argyle pattern being non-existent during his low block animation
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Big Band's headphones being incorrectly colored during his sliding knockdown animation
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The valves on Big Band's sax pack being drawn incorrectly during his s.MP
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The laser-hitting-the-ground effect on Robo-Fortune's air light laser having a weird outline
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A weird red...something near Big Band's sax pack during E-Brake
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Big Band's headphones going transparent during his s.MK
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Big Band's sweater being not-red during his the assist "taunt" before he jumps off screen
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The whites of Big Band's eyes being oddly colored during his air grab (more noticeable with other palettes last time I checked)
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Big Band's foot-wheel not being black during his back-dash
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A single black pixel on Big Band's eyes during his c.LP that my eyes always go to whenever I use the move holy mother of GOD this annoys me
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The slide during Brass/A-Train/E-Brake looking weird near the front (end?) of it
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The base of the Noise Cancel cymbals (I don't know what they're called) not being the same color (Don't know if this counts as an error, but whatever I'm mentioning it anyways)
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The bass clef on Big Band's tag-out not fading back in after fading away, unlike the treble clef effect
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yagyu said:
Hey guys, in R. fortunes 22nd palette both of her arms are black, but when she does her win pose one arm turns green while the other stays black, i would include a screenshot but steam is being stupid.
That's a result of the lighting from the eyes, increasing the slight green bias from the black; it's not an error.
 
EU03 said:
That's a result of the lighting from the eyes, increasing the slight green bias from the black; it's not an error.


Directly after posting this i played a little more with that palette and noticed that it was just her lights, in the brighter stages i could have sworn it turned green though, My mistake.
 
Throwaway said:
Oh MAN I've been waiting for a place like this:

All of this stuff is now fixed except for the bass clef disappearing (low priority), the sax valve on s.MP (low pri and harder to fix), and the foot wheel on backdash (we like it grey instead).

Thanks for point all this stuff out!

Stuff said:
Beowulf has no eyes during his level 3 I dunno if that's intentional but yeah. No eyes. Iris? Pupil? I dunno eyes.

As Skarmand said, this is intentional.
 
I've always wondered what's going on with the logic behind Painwheels forward HK, specifically the inconsistent number of blades. If the extra blades in this attack are just supposed to emerge from hammer space I guess I'll buy that explanation.
1: One blade of four is extended, four remain (Total of five). Notable for the entire attack is that the blades somehow flip backwards (They usually have the point counter-clockwise, but here the ones that aren't hitting are pointed clockwise) which is probably major enough on its own to invalidate all further nitpicking but here we go:
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2: Two blades extended, four still remain folded back:
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3: Here the whole thing just moves forward a bit which I guess makes sense physically. There are still 6 blades total:
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4: The "rest" of the blades extend and now they're just four total. I have no idea what's going on:
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I'm not really asking for anything to be changed but man the way this is animated boggles my mind
 
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zeknife said:
I've always wondered what's going on with the logic behind Painwheels forward HK, specifically the inconsistent number of blades. If the extra blades in this attack are just supposed to emerge from hammer space I guess I'll buy that explanation.

I'm not really asking for anything to be changed but man the way this is animated boggles my mind

Gonna have to get used to feeling boggled on that one. Sorry.
 
zeknife said:
I've always wondered what's going on with the logic behind Painwheels forward HK, specifically the inconsistent number of blades. If the extra blades in this attack are just supposed to emerge from hammer space I guess I'll buy that explanation.
1: One blade of four is extended, four remain (Total of five). Notable for the entire attack is that the blades somehow flip backwards (They usually have the point counter-clockwise, but here the ones that aren't hitting are pointed clockwise) which is probably major enough on its own to invalidate all further nitpicking but here we go:
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2: Two blades extended, four still remain folded back:
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3: Here the whole thing just moves forward a bit which I guess makes sense physically. There are still 6 blades total:
nyLlDgC.png


4: The "rest" of the blades extend and now they're just four total. I have no idea what's going on:
0Swaksq.png
I'm not really asking for anything to be changed but man the way this is animated boggles my mind
Shot in the dark, but they may be at an angle that makes them look three-dimensional but because they are so close together it makes them look like there's more than there actually is until they attack
 
zeknife said:
I've always wondered what's going on with the logic behind Painwheels forward HK, specifically the inconsistent number of blades. If the extra blades in this attack are just supposed to emerge from hammer space I guess I'll buy that explanation.
1: One blade of four is extended, four remain (Total of five). Notable for the entire attack is that the blades somehow flip backwards (They usually have the point counter-clockwise, but here the ones that aren't hitting are pointed clockwise) which is probably major enough on its own to invalidate all further nitpicking but here we go:
ilrkqUP.png


2: Two blades extended, four still remain folded back:
wu74moT.png


3: Here the whole thing just moves forward a bit which I guess makes sense physically. There are still 6 blades total:
nyLlDgC.png


4: The "rest" of the blades extend and now they're just four total. I have no idea what's going on:
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I'm not really asking for anything to be changed but man the way this is animated boggles my mind

Oh, huh. This is how I animated it in the rough:
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Guess those details were lost when I passed it to our animators. Back then we were on a really tight schedule so it probably slipped through our notice.

Looking at the date of the finished file, 9/19/2011, it was one of the last Painwheel moves I did and required working through the weekend to finish. On that day I also started working on my first Valentine's animation, ground throw, and Brain Drain's animation in PW's intro too.

Oh god, looking at these dates, I remembered that we were in ultra crunch and finished up (in-house) Valentine's animation in one month because we were just straight out of time. I think I did like 300 frames in one week or something ridiculous like that. That was not a fun time.


Anyway, this PW animation is probably never going to get fixed. Thanks for catching it though!


EDIT: OH I SEE WHY THIS HAPPENED! The keyframe makes it look like the the blades are hitting the opposite direction because of the way it's drawn - it's extra spiky in the back when the actual blade is smooth on the back. I was working off of rough keyframes Alex drew and didn't catch that it could be misconstrued like that when I animated it. Shoot, sorry guys.
 
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Are Filia's nails supposed to be pink? They turn pink when she is attacked in the air.

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In one frame of Fukua's idle pose, her hair is completely disconnected from the lineart. As far as I know, this is the only frame with the issue. Look into Filia's other win pose, too, since they share the same animation.
 
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@EU03 - For the Fukua idle error, it looks like hair18_colors is a duplicate of hair19_colors.


iDaNtE-_-_- said:
Are Filia's nails supposed to be pink? They turn pink when she is attacked in the air.

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That's all over the place on Filia. The short answer is no, they're not supposed to be, but there are too many individual frames to fix so we're not going to. It's also not that noticeable unless you're looking for it. Though now that I've said it's all over the place, no one who reads this will likely be able to unsee it. SORRY!
 
Found another thing related to Val's vial stuff:
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The palette effect also isn't applied to Beo's chair, but that seems intentional since, well, it's a chair.
 
Outlaw_Spike said:
Found another thing related to Val's vial stuff:
Colors which are not affected by lighting are not affected by palette effects either, so her blood never changes color. Not a bug.
 
Painwheel's mask, the left and right sections are see through. All of PW palettes have the sides see through... on 360. Mentioned on the Beo' Update thread, shortly after release, Mike responded. However, don't know if a fix has been done for the next update?
 
Mr.NiceGuy said:
Painwheel's mask, the left and right sections are see through. All of PW palettes have the sides see through... on 360. Mentioned on the Beo' Update thread, shortly after release, Mike responded. However, don't know if a fix has been done for the next update?
It hasn't...annnnnnnnnd it probably won't get fixed. >.<
 
Mike_Z said:
It hasn't...annnnnnnnnd it probably won't get fixed. >.<
To late to see what's wrong? Figures... to close to R.Fortune's release to work on it I guess. What would be the reason for that bug anyhow?
 
Mr.NiceGuy said:
To late to see what's wrong? Figures... to close to R.Fortune's release to work on it I guess. What would be the reason for that bug anyhow?
Some math in a shader being slightly off. And it's uh, scary to touch.
 
Mike_Z said:
Some math in a shader being slightly off. And it's uh, scary to touch.
More fixes, more problems... Ah well. Feel guilty that I didn't report this sooner though.
 
Mike_Z said:
Some math in a shader being slightly off. And it's uh, scary to touch.
Mike Z nervously tittering over the house of cards that is Skullgirls, lol

"Don't touch that shader, for the love of god!"

And that analogy is why I'm not a programmer.
 
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