Chaos I don't think that Dragon was seriously considering that, so don't take it so seriously.
I actually really like this idea. Like, A LOT!The army thing kinda sounds like The Incredible Hulk: Bruce is pursued by the military not only for being a monster, but also so they can make their own Hulks as super soldiers. ... An interaction between Sparks and Parasoul (attempting to draft him into the Black Egrets army as punishment for his crimes) would be interesting
*sigh* Ok, I'm going to present some problems that I have with [Insert name]. These are just issues with the story that I personally feel don't add up.I haven't fully decided what the Ally should look like, so that's a tough one. But for now I'll say: the Ally looks more like a monster than a backpack; but he does function like one by clinging onto [insert name]'s back (carrying [insert name]'s objects in his mouth when he goes to school, etc.); but the appearance really depends on whether he's in his good form or the bad one. If the ally is in his negative side, he bears a similar monstrous resemblance to Samson considering how he's an offspring of the original, even calling him "Pops". When he's in his goody two-shoes form however, he hardly looks anything like Samson and doesn't look like he could hurt even a fly (or at least WOULD hurt one), losing his teeth and getting a smiley face I guess? Idk what exactly they should look like. But I meant to say that [insert name] was the one who weighs around 100 lb, not his parasite. Compared to most teens his age, he's supposed to be smaller than average in both weight and height. But yes, his ally is a remote parasite since he can just freely come off his host at anytime and technically doesn't replace any body part unlike his original and Leviathan. Alex Ahad said that if a parasite is removed from its host, they'd both die from the process. But since the ally isn't really a part of his host, nothing happens to either one of them when they separate; where Filia is pretty much stuck with Samson for the rest of her natural life :)
But when fighting, [insert name] and his ally both do an equal amount of the fighting and in most of their attacks, they combine together instead of just walking his parasite from place to place like Filia and Squigly do. They usually do it by morphing together into other animals and objects like a Giraffe, Armadillo, Snake, Elephant, or their personal favorites: an Alligator (when in bad form) and a Frog (when in good form). For example, one of their blockbusters is a command throw where they together form a giant snake and swallow the opponent whole, riding their combined body onto a roller coaster track to damage their swallowed enemy inside both their bodies (kinda gross though) who is getting rocked around from all the motion without any seatbelts. Without [insert name], the parasite would be too small and skinny to even put the opponent in his mouth, nor would he have the finesse to control the way he's going and would fall off the tracks. Roller Coaster Snake FTW
The main problem with this duo is that I think I made it a little too similar to Filia. For that reason, I made them interact only once and the two never see each others' faces again (despite saying they would), although I did make an untold alternate story where the two have a much bigger interaction between each other:
His ally remains in his bad, negative form almost all the time and rarely shows his goody two shoes dies, becoming even more brutal and darker than Samson. This occurs to the point of him persuading his host to become a full-on criminal and encourages him to commit lots of crimes, causing lots of mischief in the kingdom. Basically changing who he was: A good (but lonely) citizen transforming into a troublemaker. He also no longer has an interest in cop shows and is now pursued by the police (who formerly liked him as a good citizen). Filia, who helped him gain his new friend when they first met, regrets her actions (or rather Samson's actions, since it was he who propagated the ally from annoyance) for turning a good kid into a devious crook. So she is in pursuit of them as well, with the ambition to remove that "fiend" (as she put it) from [insert name]'s body and separate the two for good, and hopefully clear his good name so that the police would stop chasing him down and take the beast who transformed him instead. If he gets angry at her for doing it, she plans to try and convince him (and fail horribly) that he never needed [insert ally name], all he really needed was a nicer, normal friend. When they met, he could've just asked her to be his friend instead of having Samson reproduce one for him, had she known the events that would follow.
I dunno if I should tell the whole story though, this thread is kinda shallow when it comes to activity and I don't wanna feel like I typed it for nothing. Need a bigger audience before I tell the rest.
You're not weird Bucky, I had the same experience that you had, only mine wasn't as optimistic.
I would also like some criticism for my character, Wiglaf.
I would also love it if someone tried to draw him, my lack of artistic talent is so frustrating...
I have been meaning to respond to this and now is a good time as ever.
This. So much this.
That's a nice looking character post you've got there. Would be a shame if people didn't give their personal opinions about it.I would also like some criticism for my character, Wiglaf.
Thanks for the answers! Can't wait to see what other characters you have to share with us!
Is the trial mission different for everyone? If not, do you have an idea of what the trial mission would be?
Do each of these 3 branches have their own different factions? And if so, have you given any thought into what they are?
Now what exactly should be covered when creating a character for the Wulf Pack. After all, we can't really assign our characters ranks, and assigning our characters a specific job can be hard if we don't know exactly how many people are needed for that job/want that job, etc. Maybe there could be a sort of Template people could fill out. Have things like Name, Code name, Wolf Pelt Color and Placement, Branch, Specialty, etc.
Well there aren't many Personas there to begin with! Seriously, though, I would like to see more people in that thread.
I actually really like this idea. Like, A LOT!
I have a couple more questions about Shockbrave.
-It seems as though Shockbrave is an alias given to her after she performed heroic feats? What name did she go by before?
-She's characterized as a brave hero, so why didn't she just attack/detain Vitale when he threatened her and her family?
-How does an undead person have "health benefits" from foods they eat when they don't even need to eat to begin with? What are the "health benefits?
-Did she know that she needed to be electrically powered from birth? How long does a charge hold for?
-And lastly, what exactly makes her a 4th wall breaker? There's nothing in her personality that gives me the impression that she would be able to do that.
Overall, the Shock and Spark siblings have a pretty solid story. They are a twist on a classic story and, for the most part, it works. There are a few things here and there that are a bit dubious, but it's not anything that a little more information and character development can't fix. They are interesting characters that have a lot of potential. I hope you continue to craft their story with the same passion and creativity you have thus far.
*sigh* Ok, I'm going to present some problems that I have with [Insert name]. These are just issues with the story that I personally feel don't add up.
-First of all, if they aren't totally bound together, there is no way [Insert name] should gain any sort of powers from the parasite. After all, parasites need to be bound to a host to survive. The powers given are sort of like payment in return for a permanent place of residence. No permanent binding, no powers.
-Why would Parasoul try to arrest [Insert name] just because she didn't like his answer? It seems a bit extreme and feels like it was written in just to have them fight in the Story mode.
-The method the Mafia chose to wipe out [Insert name]'s family seems like it would draw a lot of attention. I feel that it would have been easier to just send B. Dhalia to assassinate him and maybe even steal his inventions/research at the same time. Less mess and less fuss.
-When describing the attack on his family, you mentioned that Shockbrave actually apologized to [Insert name] for killing his family, but then she lights the house on fire without killing him first. Why didn't she just kill him there? She pretty much gave him a free opportunity to get away.
-Also, I might be interpreting this wrong but it seems like he gets mail at his Lego Brick house? People know to send stuff to this house, but the MAFIA can't find him?
-You mentioned that he started building his house to avoid wild animals. But it took half a year to build the house. How did he avoid the animals during this period of time?
-I find it really difficult to believe that he had NO negative feelings towards Shockbrave. Even though she killed his family. Family that he felt "comes first before anything else, even his own life." He can still see that her boss is the real reason his family is dead, but I would imagine that he would still be at least a little upset with her.
-Of course, this also means I find it even more strange that she's actually listed among his LIKES. It just seems...off.
-I also find it strange that you mentioned several times that [Insert name] is really shy, but when he sees Filia, a girl with a frightening monster for hair, he has no problem talking to her. Not only that, but he then challenges her to a fight after her parasite vomits a sentient creature onto his back? It just seems out of place with the character you have been trying to establish with [Insert name]. Maybe there's more to this, but they way it is presented, it just seems out of character.
-The Ally's origin is also kinda strange. There is no evidence (as far as I know) that parasites can create other parasites. It seems a little far-fetched and (again) written in only to give some sort of connection to a member of the SG roster.
-The PERSONALITY section brings up a couple more questions. He likes partying? But I thought he was shy? Shyness doesn't exactly mix with the extremely social environments of parties.
-Also, here it says that he enjoys hanging out with people, but in the previous section it said he "knew no way of approaching others and conversing with them." The only way I could see this working is if he gained confidence after obtaining his Ally and the former statement occurs after he meets him, whereas the latter occurs before.
-And of course, in the gameplay section, you say, "his greatest (and perhaps only) weakness: having to choose which form to switch to and (possibly, still working on it) needing Dramatic Tension meter to switch for the appropriate task." From a gameplay perspective, if the only "weakness" you have is choosing how you want to beat up your opponent, you have an overpowered character.
Mostly, I feel that you tried too hard to incorporate other characters into his story and vice-versa instead of focusing on him and his story. By the time I finished your description post, I didn't really feel as though I had gotten to know him, so much as I had been given a bunch of disjointed events that he was involved in. For example, we don't know that he has any interest in toy bricks until he starts to build a house with them. This bit of info just comes out of nowhere and feels like an afterthought. Kinda like, "Oh yeah, he is pretty good at building things with toy bricks." It might not seem out of place to you, since you created him and you have all his info in your head. But we don't have anything to go on other than what you give us. Give your character his own story first. Give him his own name! Establish your character's personality and background. Let us know who he is. Then if you want to put him into the Skullgirls story, go ahead.
But that's just how I felt while reading it. Maybe others had different experiences. And maybe I'm just weird.
Anyway, I think that's all I got.
I'll answer the SB questions first:Hope that answers it all!- Until discovering her own powers and sneaking off to explore and learn about the world, she didn't really have a name yet. I guess never thought about this...
- Because since she likes practically everyone she meets (even bad guys), Shocky is supposed to be a bit of a pacifist and would generally try to avoid violence at all costs unless there is no other option. She is very young, naïve, and has never seen a gun before up until meeting Vitale. When she saw him kill that deer in her yard with a headshot, she was horrified by the puddle of blood and the brain sticking out of its head that came from the headshot, and fears that he will do the same thing to her (even though it won't really kill her, she doesn't know it and it will still hurt her anyway) or her family. Unless you're filming a martial arts movie with her (even then she hates that), she's not the kind of person who'd resort to violence unless its completely unavoidable. Plus, she only recently discovered her powers a few days before the incident and isn't aware of what she's fully capable of (and she never uses them for violence, even as a heroine). There is a chance that her powers can't stop the gun he used, or at least she thinks that way. You wouldn't see her even try to kill a group of ants, and she dislikes being around such bugs (she once woke up with some crawling around her body after taking a nap outside, and biting her too). Because of these, she figures that if she just does what he says and goes along with it, no one gets hurt... not him, herself, or the family he threatens. She figures that she might learn something from his job offer and get to explore more of the world anyway, and has yet to find out what the job actually is, maybe something good could come from it. Unfortunately, only 3 things did, everything else was bad:
1. She gets to meet lots of interesting people, including Cerebella, who she became fast friends with after working part time in the Medici circus (it was the closest thing she could get to plays and filmmaking). Although, Cerebella likes to tease and play jokes on her because of her naivety, just like she does with her roommate Feng; and Shock usually does nothing about it... although I did plan on having her playfully do it back by sticking a cockroach into bella's shirt (her profile says she hates roaches) before a live performance, making her scream the hell out and publicly humiliate her in front of the audience, ruining her act. She did feel guilty about doing it, but at the same time she enjoyed watching her freak out and actually laughed.
But I don't think anyone would find this funny (especially when this game has no animated cutscenes) and that'd probably ruin the good progress I made so far, so I don't think I should put this into the biography... I don't wanna add something awkward like that.
2. Maybe one of the jobs she gets will lead her to her brother Sparks, who she usually can't find or he goes away before she can meet him face-to-face. She eventually does, but the meeting isn't exactly a happy family reunion...
3. As mentioned before, simply just explore the world and have fun :)
- Considering how she's only 6 years old and isn't remarkably intelligent, no she does not. She doesn't really know much about her own anatomy, and usually has to visit a doctor to learn more about her own body, Charge lasts for about 37 hours maybe? Not sure how she would recharge, but I'm thinking of having her just eat batteries or something.
- Simple: Absorb a small amount of nutrients, energy (fruit contains some electricity ya know, at least lemons) growth, etc. Even as undead, they can still get affected by food they eat even if they don't actually need it, just not significantly. They can also still taste the food, and would love to appeal to their own tastebuds on their tongues (mostly Sparks though, Shocky doesn't care about that as much).
- Simple, talking to the player or the in-game announcer during some parts of the gameplay, reminding them not to play for too long and other stuff like that, or occasionally getting annoyed with the announcer's voice suddenly appearing out of nowhere. Deadpool does 4th walling in UmvC3 (YOU PRESSED THE WRONG BUTTONNNN!!) and other media. She learns the 4th wall-creaking concept from watching TV and movies when she seeks inspiration for her next films when other fictional characters in the shows do it.. which makes her assume that she's fictional too... and she is right :) She only does it during fights though, doing it in the story would seem really weird and would ruin the flow. I was also thinking of having Sparks do it as well, but far less often and in very few quotes, not as noticibly as his sister would. I'm not sure I should though, could also ruin it.
For [insert name]Wow.... that's a big wall of questions ya got there... I'm not even sure if I can come up with good answers of all of them, but I'll try. Can't blame ya for misunderstanding them though, since my work is incomplete anyway (as mentioned before) and I'm still trying fix it. I just forgot to come back and edit it some more. I still haven't came up with a name for [insert name] (I'm terrible at naming stuff), but I'm just gonna call his parasite Cassius, referencing Cassius from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar story. Can't think of anything else, but let's go: *cracks neck*
- ??? I don't remember anyone saying that they had to be permanently stuck to each other anywhere. Think of it more like Venom (from Marvel comics), an alien symbiote who is known for having more than one host and takes over multiple bodies (most notably Eddie Brock) and giving them his powers, covering them like a suit. I did the same thing with [insert name] and Cassius. Instead of being permanently attached to his host like his original and everyone else, this one clings onto his host like a backpack, like a spider on a web, and is able to freely come off when not in fights and come back on when they do happen. [insert name] also uses this to his advantage by using him as a tool like a swing, hamster ball (running inside of him in the form of a bubble), drill, hot air balloon, etc. He is still attached to his host and makes physical contact with him, just not permanently like everyone else does. I really don't see how it would have to be that way, something like that would be beyond me.
- Answer is in different elsewhere. But I guess you're right, it was pretty extreme. I just thought about changing it right when I read this and I'll say why later on.
- Sending Black Dahlia's a nice idea, but I wouldn't get to add one of my fave parts if I did it with her instead of Shockbrave! lol
- Actually, I thought of changing that part to this: to let him live, since she felt shame in doing it and caused enough trouble already. Even if she id know she failed on killing him and I kept it that way, she would lie to the Mafia anyway so she could let at least one person live. Her primary objective was to murder his dad any numerous witnesses, not him. As long as he doesn't know who her boss is or where to find him, what can he do? He's got no proof that it was her and as mentioned before in her own story, Shockbrave is wildly popular and well-known for polite nature and heroic deeds (before serving the Mafia anyway). It would be so unlike her to murder anyone all of a sudden, and even if [insert name] name tried to tattle on her to the police and get help, no one would believe him, no one. It's kind of like Dib trying to expose Zim (in the TV show in Invader Zim) and prove that he's an evil alien who wants to conquer Earth, but almost everyone thinks he's crazy and few humans know Zim's true identity. Even [insert name] himself knows that she's a popular actress with a pacifistic nature and success is very unlikely to happen for him, and he felt something was not right. He's better off not telling anyone about it anyway, and I can answer why in the very next question:
- The Mafia thought he was dead, plus the murder was over a year ago since he built that bricky house of his. Not everyone's gonna remember something from a long time ago. Also with the mailmen issue, he masquerades as another person when they do come. Not because he fears the Mafia or Shockbrave coming back to try and kill him again, but for something else:
He's only about 15 years old, and lives in a house on his own, secluded deep in a maze-like forest where hardly anyone is ever likely to find it (even he, himself forgets the directions to home). Since his parents are gone, he lives without any adult supervision and is basically free to do whatever he wants (though that hardly makes him feel any better), and is still determined to go find Shockbrave and her boss and uncover the mystery of the incident. If he were to tell the cops about and they actually did believe him, that also means that he can't stay in his own house since he's just a kid and not an adult, especially not one that's made of nothing but LEGO bricks in a forest where animals live. If they were to discover this, they would take him to an orphanage and make him stay there until someone comes to adopt him and he finds a new home, where he'll be put back under adult supervision and won't have his freedom anymore, and would probably forbidden to go and look for the girl who killed off his family. Basically, he's trying to find her while he still can, as well as enjoy his rule-free life in general.
Admittedly, this was very hard to do until he met Cassius, where it became much easier since the two could just fuse together into a being that makes him look taller, bigger, and older than he actually is. That way, no one would try to remove him from his current home and prevent him from solving that mystery. Though people have commented on how weird he looks, it fooled practically everyone except Filia, although it isn't saying much considering how the two have little interaction with each other (except in my alternate story for [insert name]). When meeting Parasoul however, he forgot about this and spilled this secret to her by accident, which prompted her to order her soldiers to take him to an orphanage while she attempts to deal with the Skullgirl and fry other eggs, rather than arrest him like I originally planned (thank u 4 letting me know that btw). Still determined when he finally found Shockbrave, [insert name] and Cassius refuse and resist, and after knocking her out they retreat from her unconscious body and resume following that girl, so much for no adult supervision now... Hope that answered 3 of ur questions at once!
- How to avoid Wild Animals:
That's how :P
- Change your scent so they can't smell you
- Make weird noises and raise your arms up and down to frighten it, making yourself look bigger and scarier than you really are.
- Huck Rocks and Sticks at them
- Build a campfire to frighten them off
- Stay away from water: Crocodiles would love to jump out of it and bite onto your leg, drag you into the water, and kill you with the spin of death. In real life they are much more aggressive and dangerous than alligators: don't ever wade in, swim in, or walk near water inhabited by these beasts. They also camouflage themselves as floating logs, make sure u don't fall for it.
- If the animal chases you, try to cut them off by running past obstacles like trees and bushes.
- Glad u asked that, cuz that's the next part of the story. I can answer both of those at the same time:
After sneaking into the Medici Tower, [insert name] finally finds Shockbrave again, talking to a man named Vitale and he spies on their conversation unnoticed. Upon listening to their conversation, he finally discovers that it was he who gave her the order to assassinate his family and force her to do many other dastardly deeds against her will, and learns that he blackmails her by threatening her with a gun, which caused him to forgive the girl and pity her. She was not just trying to protect herself, but her own family as well, which was something [insert name] could relate to in a way. I admit that he was kind of mad at her for not resisting him, but the bulk of his anger was pointed at Vitale (not the entire Mafia though, doesn't know really them that well).
Nevertheless, he and Cassius came surprisingly out of nowhere (from their view) and interrupted the conversation, snatching the gun from his hand and then tossing it out of the window so he couldn't shoot her with it. He then proceeds to angrily assault and kill the man not only to gain vengeance, but also to free Shockbrave from his diabolical control and stop others from getting the same fate his own family did. While flattered that he came to try and save her (she could tell because of the gun he tossed), she was horrified by the violence he was creating and the puddle of blood he and his friend were making the floor, which reminded her of the deer killed with a headshot on her lawn. Before [insert name] and Cassius could kill Vitale, Shock herself slowly approached him and put her hand on his shoulder while smiling in an attempt to calm them down, and then she tazed them with electricity, stunning and paralyzing them so Vitale could make his escape.
After he gets away, Shock then tries to urge [insert name] not to try and kill him again, as she felt vengeance isn't going to make him or anyone feel any better when his deceased family will be gone, asking "What would they say if they saw what you now?". She also stated that a friend of hers (referring to Cerebella) also considered that man to be her father, and that killing him would do the same thing that man did to him, saddening his "daughter" and make her hate him as well if they ever meet. Understanding her speech, [insert name] gives in and goes along with it (though Cassius wanted to bite her for shocking him and ignored her speech), and she once again apologizes for the madness she created that year ago, still seemingly sad and ashamed of herself. He accepts her apology and told her it wasn't actually her fault (okay, it was partly hers), it was Vitale's. He thanks her for talking sense into his mind and she escorts him out of the tower (pretending to treat him like an intruder and simply dispose of him), telling him that her family is still in danger as the medicis placed guards over her home so that no one can try to rescue her, plus she was given the order to seek out the Skull Heart and bring it back to the Mafia, as well as take out the Skullgirl who plans to destroy them. To be continued....
I can' answer everything else yet, but I will soon :)
I'm sorry for the double post, but I have to say that THIS is the right way to do a pun name. She's also one of my favorite characters on this thread.
Yeah I was trying to go for as many as possible, he's never going to be in the game so I might as well go all out. You're right, I'll change name of the howl when I think of one. It may be a buff but I don't want the name to sound hot blooded or inspirational since it's a reference to Lucy.Wow, that's a lot of command normals. Maybe too many. Though I suppose that could be part of his unique character mechanic. The specials look good, but I would probably change Sorrowful Howl to Inspiring Howl, or something like that. Sorrow sounds like a downer instead of something to get you pumped up.
Sweeeeet, please I'm definitely interested in it and I would love to see more, same goes for the other artists here.
The only problem I have is that I wish I could draw.@Sanoblaze: I see! That's neat, then, and I had never heard that so cool learning moment. Glad to hear it's a reference to something and the origins fit. :)
Not listening, lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala *clicks ignore button*
I'm interested. Let's see it!Does anyone want the character creation template that I used to present Wiglaf?
I'll get to this later. I have to come back from the dead first, apparently.
Thanks a ton, Zen. I was actually planning on posting a character or two soon. This will help a lot!
I AM BEYOND DEATH.