What if Cerebellas instant j.HP wasn't an overhead?
Reasoning: It hits from the sides, not from above so it kinda makes sense
More importantly, it's a 19f overhead (This is pretty fast!) that can be applied from a range where merry-go-rilla would be expected to whiff, meaning you can't really trust Cerebellas options to be weighted in any meaningful way depending on her spacing (Surely this is the reason for mgr whiffing at close range to begin with)
There is precedent for this with Elizas j.lk, Filias new j.hk, Fukuas j.HK etc, and she would still have access to j.LP > j.HP for fuzzy guard stuff.
Certain moves look like they'd behave certain ways, but they don't. It's just a thing. Try not to think about it too hard.
19f overhead is not really that fast. All you have to do is hold back on reaction to her jumping. Not being able to react to j.hp means you can't reaction block cerecopter.
MGR whiffing at close range shouldn't come into play when considering j.hp. MGR is basically unreactable, and is hit-invulnerable. j.hp gets smacked out by even standing lights (unless you're like +12), and most (if not all) mashable reversals even if you tried it during incredibly plus pressure strings. j.hp < hold back/airborne/mash anything. MGR < hold up/well timed invulnerable reversal.
Eliza's j.lk is 11 frames (as an instant attack), 1 more than MGR, but leads to an unscaled combo, with little relative commitment. Filia's j.hk was 17f, a bit tougher than Bella's j.hp to react to, but could be made super ambiguous which side it was on, and would also knockdown vs airborne opponents for a full followup combo (Bella's j.hp vs air, of course, doesn't give a combo unless they're in the corner). Fukua's j.hk leads to a full combo if it connects regardless. And if it hit overhead, it'd be a 13f overhead. And if it counterhit, it'd be a full HCH combo every time all day every day, whereas even Filia's j.hk could eat up a ground bounce.
So. I personally don't think it's a problem, no.
I was already skeptic when we talked about it, but now, you're straight up stupid in your argumentation
Don't be insulting. It doesn't make you sound better by shitting on someone. Though... I'm sure quite a few people on this board could take those words to heart.
- I don't actually mind Cere j.HP not being an overhead. Mostly you get it as a reset accidentally when you screw up j.LP mash anyway, she pretty much doesn't use it as an instant overhead so I am not sure anyone would even notice if I did it and didn't say anything. :^P
Hey no please I use it as an actual intentional overhead all the time. I don't like changing things just for the sake of changing things.