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Who's the strongest?

Also I need to make this clear. Human DNA is not what gives a person limitless potential, it's Human Spirit.
All sentient creatures capable of higher thought possess the human spirit and what determines the extent of their potential is the strength of that spirit. Scythana may be half-human, but that doesn't give her any sort of advantage over anyone else in the cast. The way I see it, unless Scythana's will is strong enough she will lose to Beowulf.

I honestly don't see her as being very strong.
 
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And what does CENTURIES WORTH of human spirit say?

It says ANNIE, GIRL OF THE STARS.
 
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DDB said:
And what does CENTURIES WORTH of human spirit say?
Centuries of enduring the Skullgirl's curse, centuries of fighting monsters, centuries of protecting the weak.
There isn't a doubt in my mind that Annie has one of the strongest souls in the cast.
 
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remember everyone
we're all made of star stuff
annie can harness the power of the stars
stars also made of star stuff
that we're made of
annie is fucking OP
 
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Damn, now I have to make another thing clear. Willpower alone isn't enough in battle, but without it there's no chance to win in the first place. Between two people of similar physical strength the one with the stronger soul will prevail, but if the gap between that strength is large enough the power of the soul won't matter. I understand this, what I'm trying to say is that Beowulf has both decent combat strength as well as super high willpower, this makes him an extremely formidable opponent despite his limitations.

Scythana may be a Half-Gigan, but Beowulf beat two Full-Blooded Gigans, in a single fight.
OK I'm done for now.
 
yeah but how does he fare against wicked rushdown and mad mixups
and hypervelocity stars
those are tricky
point annie
30 love
 
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I'm not good at cases, what can I say

I already made my big one early on.
 
In this community forum thread I see a lot of assumptions (stated like facts, moreover) that this character is or isn't more intelligent/strong-willed than that one, usually based more on wishful thinking and less on any reliable word of god. I hope y'all are aware this is wild headcanon territory.
 
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This argument is pointless until you give a unanimously accepted definition of "strongest" without that everything is merely subjective conjecture.
 
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Don't you mean

unANNIEmous?
 
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That whole speech I gave about willpower and combat capability still stands, I'm speaking from experience here.
 

Stronger... soul? Willpower? Maybe if you're in a shonen anime, sure...

Generally when you have two people of similar physical strength it's the one who is a.) more skilled and b.) more wily who will come out on top. You might have all the willpower in the world, but if the other guy has more finesse and is cleverer than you then you'll most likely get your ass kicked.

Though I guess that's neither here nor there. It's as Muro and Mysterygamer said--ultimately, all of the discussion in this thread is highly subjective. Not to mention subject to some very clear bias. We've all made our cases as to who The Strongest is, but all we're really doing is guessing and trying to fill in blanks until such time as more lore related material is released.

Ultimately it's just going to end up with us all arguing in circles and not really coming to any meaningful conclusions, because everybody wants their favorite character to be The Strongest. So... yeah.

Maybe instead of trying to have a metaphorical dick-measuring contest with characters' power levels, we should all just be trying to figure out who the weakest one is. That sounds like a much more fun discussion and a lot less prone to stupidity. Who's the most pathetic character in the entire known cast?

Adam
 
guys it's pretty obvious who the strongest is around here
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LKArtillery if you're implying that I think Beowulf is the strongest and that I want him to be the strongest because he's my favorite character then you are personally insulting me. I have never said either of those things and you should stop jumping to conclusions.

Also I have a question, have you ever been in a fight? Has anyone here fought before?

Do any of you know the feel of combat!?
 
Artillery by physical strength I meant fighting ability in general, that includes strength, skill, cleverness, speed, etc.

I chose the wrong words, but my statement still stands and so does my question.
 
Denizen said:
LKArtillery if you're implying that I think Beowulf is the strongest and that I want him to be the strongest because he's my favorite character then you are personally insulting me. I have never said either of those things and you should stop jumping to conclusions.

Also I have a question, have you ever been in a fight? Has anyone here fought before?

Do any of you know the feel of combat!?
All the time in highschool (meaning when I was in highschool not at the school). Why do you ask?
 
Denizen said:
LKArtillery if you're implying that I think Beowulf is the strongest and that I want him to be the strongest because he's my favorite character then you are personally insulting me. I have never said either of those things and you should stop jumping to conclusions.

Also I have a question, have you ever been in a fight? Has anyone here fought before?

Do any of you know the feel of combat!?

You're jumping to conclusions and getting defensive if you assumed it was only you I was talking about :> If I was personally insulting you, I'd come right out and say it.

Anyhow, why does it matter if any of us have been in a fight or not? That can constitute a whole hell of a lot of different situations, none of which may be relative to your own personal experiences. This thread's about discussing characters with crazy powers and stuff fighting, I'm pretty sure that beyond a very narrow range of the cast what a particular flavor of IRL fight is like doesn't really apply to the discussion.

I have been in a few fights, by the by. Of varying sorts. But as I said--is it relevant?
 
I ask because it's so easy for people to talk about who's the strongest when none of them know the dynamics of one on one battle. It sickens me when people say, "Oh this guy would beat that guy because he has fire magic and the other guy doesn't." It's not that simple, people who are familiar with combat should know that. The arguments that I've seen on this thread so far have lead me to believe that no one understands those dynamics.

You're right Artillery, it doesn't really matter whether you've been in a fight or not, but it still surprises me that we can disagree on such things when we both have. That's why I assumed that you've never been in a fight, because you disagreed with me, so I wanted to be sure.

By the way, it doesn't matter whether someone is fighting with a mop of living hair, a hat with muscular arms, an arsenal of cartoon weaponry, or just a chair. Fighting is fighting, real world thinking still applies, therefore people with real world experience have more input here.
 
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*Was gone for a few days*
LKArtillery said:
If Alex says it's reality warping, it's reality warping. Doesn't mean it's "totally and completely broken to levels rivaling the gods" reality warping or anything.

At this point, you're just arguing semantics.
Normally semantics aren't overly important, but when talking about skill sets and power levels you have to avoid using words incorrectly. It's the "who would win etiquette", without it there's no point in talking about who would win. Imagine if people referred to character with resistance to mental attacks immune to them? Or said every character with invulnerability was impervious to harm (even superman can be injured without using his weaknesses)? Or if they equated characters with similar power sets?

Sanoblaze said:
I like to think scythana is a very high contender for the strongest
We shouldn't be considering any power rating for Scythana at all. We have no real evidence of anything she's done.

Denizen said:
Scythana may be a Half-Gigan, but Beowulf beat two Full-Blooded Gigans, in a single fight.
Full-blooded or half-blooded doesn't really matter. Look at DBZ and Inuyasha, Gohan at like age 10 surpassed every other Saiyan we'd seen by a lot and kills one of the strongest mortal beings in the universe. Inuyasha was stronger than basically every other demon, even without the Tetsusaiga his full-demon mode was capable of taking out the beast that killed his full-demon father (who was also a badass). But we won't know if Scythana is of Gohan's or Inuyasha's kind until she comes out.

Denizen said:
I ask because it's so easy for people to talk about who's the strongest when none of them know the dynamics of one on one battle. It's not that simple, people who are familiar with combat should know that.
I have been in one on one fights and one on several (commonly referred to as getting jumped; I was the one). But that doesn't matter, cause you wanna know a secret? It doesn't matter which characters the strongest or which have the most willpower or has the most experience, whoever the creator wants to win wins, and they apply whatever logic suits them. See: Squirrel Girl VS Thanos.

That's enough on physical fights, though, that has nothing to do with nothing.
 
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So basically this thread is fucking pointless?

OK, good to know.
 
well Zen, asking "who would win in a fight" and "who is the strongest" can be two entirely different questions which can come up with different results.
 
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Didn't you hear Sano? Both those questions can only be answered by Alex Ahad so we should all just shut up.
 
Denizen said:
So basically this thread is fucking pointless?

OK, good to know.

As a matter of fact, it is.

This is basically exactly the same as those "Goku vs Naruto WHO WOULD WIN????" type threads you see 12-year olds starting on anime boards, except it's specific to this particular game. It's just going to be arguing back and forth trying to stretch points that may or may not actually have any basis in canon.

Until we actually have a lot of canon to draw from in order to properly compare characters, there's no real point in trying to argue who is actually "stronger" than who. The only ones who we know for certain are well and truly on top in terms of power level are the Trinity; otherwise, it's completely up in the air.
 
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As a matter of fact, it is.
More or less. I mean, we can definitely talk about character feats and dissect them, but, especially when bringing in characters who don't exist yet, making statements about who's the strongest/who would win is pointless.
 
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All I see are a bunch of killjoys. I'm not saying I disagree with you two, but seriously just let people have their fun.
 
Denizen said:
All I see are a bunch of killjoys. I'm not saying I disagree with you two, but seriously just let people have their fun.

I've been considering making my signature "Skullheart's Resident Killjoy" for quite some time now, actually. Got a nice ring to it, doesn't it?
 
It would be fitting, I'll say that much. Take that identity and make it your own, DDB did the same thing with Annie.
 
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The Salt... So beautiful.
Well I guess I'll try again with the Grading system that got overshadowed. I'll Just bring them her and add my own. Hopefully another man can brave the salt and make it hear to continue this.
I know this is off topic, but... The topic makes people too salty so fuck it.
 
Lol, I read a lot of posts here on Skullheart and I notice Denizen gets real all the time, very quickly. lol If he is hot-headed online, he must be a timebomb in person.
 
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Fat-Ass ♪ said:
Lol, I read a lot of posts here on Skullheart and I notice Denizen gets real all the time, very quickly. lol If he is hot-headed online, he must be a timebomb in person.
Oh stop, you're just flattering me!
Seriously though keep the topic off of me, these arguments were finished a long time ago.
 
Denizen said:
Oh stop, you're just flattering me!
Seriously though keep the topic off of me, these arguments were finished a long time ago.

I know; I saw the dates. I just saw a lot of your old responses in some threads by chance and I thought it was funny.
 
Destructive Power: Measures the Character's strength and ability to cause destruction in a given period of time. Not only limited to the muscle of the Character, but to also its abilities combined.
  • Speed: Measures the Character's agility and performance speed.
  • Range: Measures the Character's range of manifestation, range of ability influence, and spatial mobility.
  • Durability/Staying: Measures the Character's endurance and level of susceptibility to damage and attacks. --I guess this could be interpreted as endurance
  • Precision: Measures the Character's accuracy and its ability's range of influence to specified targets.
  • Development Potential/Learning: Measures the Character's possible functions and utilization of its abilities and powers.
Destructive Power: C; her strength would be below average if not for Samson
Range: D; while Fillia is pretty spry, she can't really keep up with some of the more tele-porty characters.
Durability: C-D; She is still a normal person for the most part, and the fact that she has to eat a lot more than normal to sustain Samson and herself she wouldn't be able to outlast anyone.
Precision: B; Samson is capable of changing his shape to be a wide variety of tools, and Fillia is in-tune enough with him to be able to effectively use those tools
Development Potential/Learning: D; Frankly put, she's stupid. If it wasn't for Samson telling her what to do or where to go, she would probably be dead. She also doesn't seem to enjoy fighting, so I would think she isn't exactly enthusiastic about learning new abilities.
PARASOUL
Destructive Power: by herself, a E as she's simply the most mundane of characters. With Krieg, I'd give her a B. We don't see it but I have the impression that well placed tears triggering chain explosions could tear (*snort*) a lot of things apart quite easily.
Range: B. While she can't play the distance game as effectively as Peacock, she's still better at it than most of her opponents. If we step out of the games and combine this with a clever use of Krieg and I can imagine her causing all sorts of things to collapse over her opponent.
Mobility: C. She's light on her feet but still no match to the likes of Ms. Fortune and Valentine.
Durability: C. While a normal human with no augments, she does keep herself fit meaning it will take a while before she runs out of breath. Nonetheless, keeping up with the others, who all possess meta-human strength and stamina, is still a problem.
Precision: B. As expected of a fencer, Parasoul knows how to bide her time and wait just for the right moment to strike but hers is a game of patience so she can't force the opponent into making a mistake as well as Valentine.
Development Potential/Learning: A. IMHO this is Parasoul's greatest strength. At a young age and she's already a relatively accomplished commander which means she possesses both keen insight and the ability to adapt to chaotic situations given her battlefield experience.

Threat Evaluation: B
While not the strongest of characters, Parasoul is a strategist that will exploit any and all of her opponent's weaknesses and mistakes.
ANNIE
Destructive Power: S. She has the power of the Galaxy behind her, has defeated a number of skullgirls, AND fights Double at full strength to a stalemate. There's also her Season 2 Powerup if just her standard self can't get the job done.

Range: S. You may be thinking "But she's so small!" Well, that sword isn't the only way she can get her opponents! She can release little Quasar sentries and Sagan can fire lasers.

Mobility: S. Sagan can act as a jet, not to say that Annie isn't already fast herself with her jetboots.

Durability: S. If she can stand against Double for centuries, she can take a hit or two. Plus she's immortal.

Precision: S. CENTURIES worth of fighting has hardened her skills to the point of almost being invulnerable. Should she spot a weakness, she will make sure it is annihilated. Unfortunately for whatever fool crosses Annie of the Stars, EVERYTHING they have is a weakness.

Learning Potential: S. She's had centuries upon centuries worth of opponents, she's pretty much seen it all and can deduce someone's exact fighting style purely by glancing upon them with her eye.

Threat Potential: SSSSS DO NOT FUDGE WITH OR YOU WILL PROBABLY BE EATING OUT OF A TUBE IN YOUR ARM
Valentine, because waifu
Destructive Power: C, while clearly strong for a normal human an well versed in many weapons, Valentine isn't really all that powerful compared to living weapons and parasites.
Range: C, At the very least, Valentine is somewhat skilled with thrown weapons.
Mobility: A, From what I've seen, she is able to move at the same speed as argus agony's laser during savage bypass...I'll just assume that's the speed of light...
Durability: B sure, marie beat her up...but did you see any actual traces of injury? It looked more like she collapsed out of exhaustion than anything else.
Precision: A Is doctor, surgical precision.
Threat Evaluation: E, because that's her bra size.
SQUIGLY

Destructive Power: C+, She clearly has potential for massive power (mostly through Leviathan), but still she dosen't excell compared to other characters.
Range: A-, She doesn't move a lot, but her ability to bend even game rules to get in close are superb (look we can't ignore her ability to bring focus on herself).
Mobility: D+, It's pretty bad, but made up for.
Durability: C, For being a walking corpse she can take quite a few hits.
Precision: A-, She is very accurate, but punishingly so. If she misses with her stronger attacks, she can pay for it.
Threat Evaluation: B+, She clearly has some talent in taking down skull girls as she has beaten two, but this only applies to skull girls ass when ever there isn't a skull girl, she is dead.
 
Fat-Ass ♪ said:
I know; I saw the dates. I just saw a lot of your old responses in some threads by chance and I thought it was funny.
Fun fact, I was drinking during a few of those exchanges.
I'll leave with this on-topic statement.
Beowulf is the strongest.
Good Night.
 
Denizen said:
Beowulf is the strongest.
Good night.
In physical strength, there is no doubt. I won't argue with this.
 
iLoli said:
do you know the feel of combat

i want that on a fucking fedora
Fedora is power.
She who claims the skull fedora shall become the most powerful, with her lady pants.
 
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