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Is that a light novel relating to Monster because that sounds cool if it does.
 
Cybermanworf said:
Is that a light novel relating to Monster because that sounds cool if it does.
No, it has nothing to do with that masterpiece.

There is a sequel to monster, forgot what it's called.

It's a story about this super powered badass whose killed by his yandere stalker and reincarnates to become an even bigger badass in another world.
 
Well that was different to what I was expecting, sounds good I might look into.
 
whoa wait back up iLoli, there's a sequel to monster? :O
 
SanoBaron said:
whoa wait back up iLoli, there's a sequel to monster? :O
Yeah, I believed it's called "another monster".

Scratch that it's more of a companion piece.
 
well, its at least a little nice to know that someone out there wants to expand the Monster lore.

thank you though. :)
 
Rizil said:
Just in case people don't know wtf Ruin is talking about, the ME!ME!ME! video in question:

Warning most definitely NSFW:

http://animatorexpo.com/mememe/
See, I started to watch this when you posted it but I thought it was just some weird arthouse video about a stick figure man. Someone mentioned the title to me today and I thought he was describing a completely unrelated video or something. This was one weird trip.
 
it's pretty trippy I'll give you that.

btw, Garo the animation is still good. I love that Herman episode. just runnin' around nekkid. all it needed was the Benny Hill theme. newest episode is gonna bring Rafael and Alphonso again, which means more of that sexy as fuck knight of defense Gaia! P:
 
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I have been watching a few episodes of Grisaia no Kajitsu and am really enjoying it so far but how does it compare to the visual novel ?

Like how much stuff was cut out for adaptation ?
 
YO! THEY GOT DIGIMON TAMERS ON NETFLIX!

THAT'S MY SHIT YO!
 
I K N O W, T H A T' S M Y P O I N T
 
J U S T M A K I N G S U R E T H A T E V E R Y O N E E L S E D I D
 
ISUREDID,IACCTUALLYKNEWABOUTTHISAFTERREADINGTHATARTICLEFORTHEFIRSTTIMEWHENITFIRSTCAMEOUT!

btw, while we talk about Miyasaki. Anyone watching Sanzoku no Musume Ronja? I don't, but some I know who are said it was suprisingly good. The CGI still make me avoid it though!
 
Can we cut it with the formatting? Thanks.

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while we talk about Miyasaki. Anyone watching Sanzoku no Musume Ronja? I don't, but some I know who are said it was suprisingly good. The CGI still make me avoid it though!
I don't plan to see Sanzoku no Musume Ronja, as I've been disappointed by other Ghibli films that were based off of other people's works.
 
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so quick update on what has been on my watch:

Garo
good episodes. I loved the 2 interconnecting storyline episodes with Leon and Herman.

;-;7 stay stay ripped Rafael. you were a badass. also, it was a nice touch having Alfonso take up the armor of Gaia. can't wait to see him join the main crew and there's gonna be more of Emma soon as well.
Monster Musume
I really don't get what was supposed to be upsetting about this story. like, how harpies often have one night stands? that Pappy's mom has a guy she regularly visits?

the only thing that frustrates me is that it seems the monster societies have all been women. :/ seriously, are they gonna try and tell us every one of the main 3 is from an all female species? please let Cerea's story prove me wrong.

also, I wanna see something about Pappy's dad. like, he's a super nice guy and shit.

I need to jump onto Bahamut, is it still going well? I haven't really given it a shot since I'm a little put off by the main characters Ronald McDonald design.
also, Terraformars? is it good, or really kinda depressing?
 
>just watched ME!ME!ME!
Before music started, when I saw that "photo" with two girls, first my thought "wait a second, is it P&S related?". After I finished watching, I have read who created it. >TeddyLoid (author of whole soundtrack for P&S). Damn, man, his style is memorable. And was expecting something like that. Love it.
 
SanoBaron said:
I need to jump onto Bahamut, is it still going well? I haven't really given it a shot since I'm a little put off by the main characters Ronald McDonald design.
It's pretty top
real nice animation and choreography
real good music
the characters are all nice (Amira is my favorite)
Its got a lot of cool aesthetics and inspirations
Def my anime of the season so far
 
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good to know. I have couple days off next week so I'll marathon and catch up.
thank you @Ruin
 
I watched Hen Zemi in one sitting, it made me skip a class. I normally hate the Ecchi genre but this was pretty good. Comedy was on point, like a dirty version of Nichijou. Thanks for pointing the way @chickenwithtie.

Watched the first episode of Katanagatari on recommendation from somebody who's actually cool, so I couldn't say no. Great soundtrack, great animation, great story, loads of talking. I'm not a fast reader so that last point surprised me, but I got used to it. Not much to go on from one fifty minute episode, but I think I'm in for a pretty sweet ride.
 
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so I'm trying out that cyclops hitomi manga that's published by the same company that publishes MM, and it's not half bad. I love all the crazy designs and weird deformities of all the characters. I just got past the 2D girl chapter and it's still pretty cute.
the artstyle is really nice as well.
 
SanoBaron said:
I need to jump onto Bahamut, is it still going well? I haven't really given it a shot since I'm a little put off by the main characters Ronald McDonald design.
FWIW I really dislike it. I'll finish it because I don't like dropping series, but for me the characters are unlikeable and poorly developed, the plot is unimpressive both in its general direction and combination of 'references', the humour isn't funny and the opening theme is so dumb that it makes me want to smash my headphones every time I hear it. It's visually pretty in some ways, but that's about all it has going for it.

I also caught up with Monster Musume: it's not terrible but I really can't see why it's become as popular as it has.
 
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y'know what? I can't really explain it either. I mean, I like the world building, I like the designs of the characters, I like the writing.
but I really don't understand how an ecchi gets popular. :<
especially new york times best seller popular.
 
The thing that gets me is that there is practically no plot at its core and the writing each chapter is usually
1. Main characters plus <subset of existing harm> do something crazy or boring but made crazy by the fact that the girls aren't human. Also boobs.
2. Minor complication introducing some new monster girl.*
3. Complication is resolved, if the writier can't think of a solution just have Suu or the MC grope someone. More boobs.
4. WELL GUESS WHO'S COMING TO STAY (*= this is who). Bonus points if she has big boobs.
Which makes it nothing more than ecchi, leaving the series feeling (to me) like porn with irrelevant tidbits of backstory instead of sex scenes.

In other news, I finished Rurouni Kenshin the other day. Post-Kyoto-arc is why I mostly avoid longer series.
 
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Like i said, i cant explain it either. At the very least they've been changing it up with some of the most recent chapters. And I feel like while they're gonna introduce more characters, they're not gonna go too many cooks and just add them to the house.

and yeah, I know there are some good fights in Rurouni Kenshin after the Kyoto arc but the Kyoto arc is just amazing and feels like the latter parts of YuYu Hakusho after the dark tournament.

I still love Rurouni Kenshin though
 
I made the same comparison in my mind about how both went downhill. I think I preferred YYH's dark tournament to Kenshin's Kyoto, but YYH's bad arcs were really drawn out while Kenshin's were mercifully short. Apparently the filler at the end of Kenshin was because the series caught up to the manga so it's somewhat excusable.

I kinda want to read the manga now but I'm a really slow reader so such a long series is a bit daunting.
 
SanoBaron said:
Monster Musume
I really don't get what was supposed to be upsetting about this story. like, how harpies often have one night stands? that Pappy's mom has a guy she regularly visits?

the only thing that frustrates me is that it seems the monster societies have all been women. :/ seriously, are they gonna try and tell us every one of the main 3 is from an all female species? please let Cerea's story prove me wrong.

also, I wanna see something about Pappy's dad. like, he's a super nice guy and shit.
No, it's a bait and switch story. We're led to believe based on Poppy's initial statements that harpies are very carefree sexually and don't stay with any particular male because they are migratory and "free". Coupled with the drama of thinking that the guy in the photo was Papi's former boyfriend it's supposed to make us question her memory and future intentions with darling.

Her mom in the end says that none of the harpies actually follow the rules since, "she forgot them" so it's strongly implied that a lot of the harpies are actually monogamous and her referring to the man in her picture as her hubby and talking about going for the tanned look because it suited his tastes solidifies that. It was just a chapter for drama and some bird brained puns and the usual fanservice.

Really, if you want a satisfactory reason for why most of the cultures we've seen so far are female only I'm going to remind you of that picture I posted. Keep that close to you going into the next chapter because you might need it.
 
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I made the same comparison in my mind about how both went downhill. I think I preferred YYH's dark tournament to Kenshin's Kyoto, but YYH's bad arcs were really drawn out while Kenshin's were mercifully short. Apparently the filler at the end of Kenshin was because the series caught up to the manga so it's somewhat excusable.

I kinda want to read the manga now but I'm a really slow reader so such a long series is a bit daunting.
if you want, check out the live action movies. They're pretty fuckin' good and the fights are really awesome. Especially that one Sanosuke fight. You'll know it when you see it.
 
Y'all really don't know anything about monster girls do you? I'll give you the low down as a lot of the current lore behind MGs come from Kenkou Cross' Monster girl Encyclopedia and games.

Okayado's earliest sketches and H-comics depicting MGs were inspired by KC's early monster girl works but only kept some of the ideas as KC expanded. One of the biggest things Okayado did keep is that Mamono, or monster girls, are species made entirely of females. They require human men to reproduce. This is a sexual fantasy we are talking about. According to KCs canon, which is widely accepted for the most part, monster girls can only give birth to monster girls as well. That is why human/human and human/MG pairings exist, though certain members of the monster girl community deviate at times with their own beliefs.

Monster Musume no Nichijou is really not much more than a slice-of-life, eechi, harem manga. I love it to death but that is its selling point. I will include a link below to a pastebin that has the names of a lot of series that have monster girls within them.

If you really wanted "quality" monster girl stories I would refer you to the Monster Girl Collection (link also below). Its a blogspot that has collected a lot of art and written stories from participants in the monster girl forums from around the internet.

Useful links:
KCs Encyclopedia updated: http://monstergirlencyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Girl_Encyclopedia_I

Monster Girl Collection: http://monstergirlcollection.blogspot.com/

Monster Girl Media Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/6kd9Bjdk
 
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Got to known Boku no Hero Academia.

Liking it so far.
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Osmiumsmith said:
Got to known Boku no Hero Academia.
I've been seeing pictures of that frog girl on Tumblr and I was super interested but I could never find the name of the thing that she's from, thanks for telling me.
 
@WayForger
The only reason I'm overanalyzing the most recent chapters is because, unlike the one-shot comics, there is an actual setting that is starting to get to the point where trying to shoehorn in the typical harem tropes becomes a hindrance to the plot. Sure according to the encyclopedia entries most of the MG species we'll see are basically the Asari which is fine for the fetish the author is catering too. But now that he is putting the setup of "boy meets Monster Girl" into a larger, more fleshed out setting, some problems are occurring.

Just a couple questions I've been asking myself.
  1. Does the Cultural exchange program even need to exist? Because from Centorea's background she tells us that Centaurs were given positions of nobility. And I don't think she's lying about that like the Dullahan was about being an avatar of death. So if the initial premise is that the world at large didn't know about extra-humans, how long ago did their existence start to get buried under rumors and myths? It seems like it would be pretty hard for any government to hide extra-human species unless you lived on an island...wait.
  2. Since we know that Harpies and Lamia are female exclusive. How could they find a suitable number of men to sustain a population if the aforementioned world governments were hiding these species away from the public? You'd think that they would actively be enforcing some sort of border but Miia's village apparently keeps luring guys in and Poppy's people are migratory so it would be hard to keep them in one spot unseen.
And I get it. It's not supposed to be that deep but I can't help but overthink the story because there is some interesting stuff going on in the background that could make for a good story or commentary in it's own right.
 
@PaperBag_Sniper
my guess is the government probably knew, but hid it from the public.
news medias could have discovered monster societies and forced the government's hand, but those are just my theories.
the only reson I feel little jaded toward Pappy and Miia's species being female exclusive is because of the fact that there ARE monstermales in this universe.
also, Centaurs might have their own region or country. she said they held nobility, but never explicitly said where.
 
SanoBaron said:
@PaperBag_Sniper
my guess is the government probably knew, but hid it from the public.
news medias could have discovered monster societies and forced the government's hand, but those are just my theories.
the only reson I feel little jaded toward Pappy and Miia's species being female exclusive is because of the fact that there ARE monstermales in this universe.
also, Centaurs might have their own region or country. she said they held nobility, but never explicitly said where.
Centorea mentioned kings and since knights are her motif it's safe to say Europe. And when you look at the sheer number of monster species we've seen and the possible countries of origin they could arise from it honestly doesn't look like there would be any sufficient explanation for why people didn't catch on sooner. It would make more sense if it was just a matter of granting civil rights laws or something to circumvent discrimination. Making it so monster species weren't marginalized.
 
PaperBag_Sniper said:
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I hope this is helpful.
In a way the cultural exchange program is a necessity for the slice-of-life setting. More of the commonly accepted lore with monster girls in the contemporary moment is that they entered our world through the magic of their demon lord (the one who transformed all of the monsters into their current female form), something akin to the plot from Gate - Jietai Kare no Chi nite, Kaku Tatakeri. Their really is no support at this time that shows whether people knew about the species of monster girls now found amongst mankind or not. I chose this line of thinking because if monster girls were spirited to our realm through the demon lords power then that would explain the king and knights that the centaurs harp about. It would make the most sense.

I would think that Okayado is following the third of the four options that monster girl enthusiasts usually follow with MG to human population: With mankind at a whopping 90% to the much smaller 10% monster girl population. Going by these stats it isn't impossible that their are just not many monster girls and they are getting by through meeting men that their hearts go doki doki for, rather than for equalization of population. It seems, from the general reaction to the girls in public places, that many people are usually mildly surprised at their existence as is. Marginalization is bound to crop up, but for the most part I don't that Okayado will show any of it unless for a specific purpose.

Furthermore, the internet and other social media is within the MonMusu universe so I will assume that since the monster girls were recognized as peaceable and willing to integrate with humankind that many people know of them, but they haven't actually been in contact with any. Rumors and myths would have definitely cropped up at the beginning or integration into human society, and from that judgemental couple we see that some people still hold that xenophobic/anti-monstergirl attitude. But, to reiterate, I am pretty sure that what we are missing is just further setup and backstory from Okayado here in regards to how monster girls were introduced to the human world (unless they were already there prior and somehow were hiding on an island which would be absolutely ridiculous).

Your second question is actually kind of easily answered. Monster girls, and this is canon, have kidnapped men for copulation or just sex in general. Straight up (though I am not really up in arms against it, this is just a reality made by Kenkou Cross and perpetuated by a wide majority of enthusiasts). There enough males on this planet that a group monster girls could overwhelm a few and continue the existence of their species, as seen by Miia's villiage plan to literally use Kimito to impregnate as many lamia as possible as a shared husband. Though I don't know how exactly the author would go about the migratory nature of harpies, I am pretty sure that within their natural habitat many monster girls would be nearly undetectable by the average person and would not try to raise suspicion up until the point the Human-Monster Girl laws/integration became general knowledge (especially if we go along the lines that they were magically introduced to our world).

Also @SanoBaron, what you are referring to, technically, are just beastmen. Okayado seems to be fusing MG canon with D&D stylings in a way. This really just serves to reinforce the idea that the MGs and other species were introduced via magic. But since this story is in media res, I can't say for 100% that there aren't more male species. Okayada never said that he was following Kenkou Cross' canon so it is a possibility that there are species that have males. Its hards to make heads or tails of Okayado's background considering we only have snippets or general facts.

I mean I could do my best to answer any of your questions that you might have. This is an area of my own expertise, but even I don't have all the answers. People deviate from the Monster Girl Encyclopedia all the time. A lot of what Okayado is doing now is along his own personal vision of MG and human interactions in a modern setting. It often does come down to the author's personal structuring. I personally don't stray too too far from KCs MGE but there is stuff within it that I find of little worth (especially in the cookie cutter personality department). Variance among characters, character development, background information, and plot is what really drives monster girl literature/doujins/manga. The fan service and lewd nature of the content is important but not always necessary from what I have seen as well. Its very subjective and the entire concept is interesting and worth delving into.
 
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I don't know what to say exept Sora, Mimi and Kari look identical.
 
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