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Marie not immediately recognising Peacock as Patricia definitely makes sense, although I don't think Marie has changed that much lol. I mean, she has the same haircut and wears practically the same maid outfit as she always did. But yeah I guess that's it's more for dramatic effect and Peacock maybe did not get as close to Marie as some panels made it look.Marie and Peacock not instantly recognizing each other is fine. Both have been separated by several months and have changed drastically. They probably thought each other were dead. Especially if the story ideas seen in that Kuroirozuki interview with Alex is used in Marie's story mode (i.e. that shotgun detail).
I don't think the Life Gem is carved to have a face, it's just what it naturally looks like. After the Gem gets recreated from Fortune's corpse, it still has a face.
The Gem compelling Ms. Fortune to swallow it is definitely an interesting theory. I think it's more simply that she was enamoured with the Gem in that frame, but it certainly could be seen as her falling under some spell. Could have some important implications on the nature and origin of the Life Gem.
It feels almost like it's drawn bigger than it should be in some frames lol. Like, Lorenzo keeps it under his shirt on a necklace, but we never see a significant bulge in his shirt while he has it on. Like other things in the SG universe I guess it can grow and shrink as the plot demands. :P
There I am, Gary! There I am!
Not in Dahlia's story mode, apparently...
Or, maybe, Robo-Fortune's compactor is better at its purpose than Cerebella's Living Weapon.
I do like this idea. Not sure if it's canon, but like it nonetheless.
Two weeks!
I think the reason for her swallowing it is pretty straightforward. She thought it was a valuable gem and since she thought they might get caught, hiding it inside her body seemed like a good idea, and she probably thought once she had escaped she could have retrieved it later once it... well... passed through her body.
Yeah, I think it's the case of the former - it's larger than it used to be because the rest of Ms. Fortune was compacted along with it.Did it go from plum to pineapple size because Cerebella hyper compacted the Life Gem with Ms. Fortune? Maybe the Life Gem diminished in size as Lorenzo Medici leeched its power over the decades. Perhaps shrunk to necklace pendant size. Leads one to think the Life Gem is like a Philosophers' Stone, fueled by the blood/life sacrifice of others.
I think this might have actually been the longest Two Weeks in SG history.
Yeah I think it's been established in 2E stories that neither of them were present at Fortune's slaying, with Cerebella only having been told of it by Vitale after Dahlia was already done with her, and Eliza wasn't even told of the Life Gem in her story and only found out when Bella blabbed about it. I think the start of 2E stories are based on established canon, so they should be more reliable than the Webtoon, but there's always the possibility of retcons so who knows.
Let's hope it would stay that way
I don't think they would retcon it.
I had no idea it was him. Now I have to read it again. Makes sense.
Yeah I think the way it currently is is better. There are some weird events and characterisations in the Webtoon which I'm not super onboard with like Dahlia being so meek with Lorenzo.
Yeah it's super interesting.
Episode 21 said:
I think it's funny that Lorenzo sounds so cliche. You have to remember that Lorenzo is this terrifying villain mainly because of his reliance on the Life Gem. Without his magic rock, all Lorenzo is is this old, decrepit, half-dead man who can just make empty threats.All caught up to Issue 22 but I wanted to note a couple fumbles in Issue 21:
Establishing shot is the destroyed city somewhere in No Man's Land with comically wide streets, first seen in Episode 0. This church is where Marie first meets Double and is given the chance to become the Skullgirl. Why the heck is it her base in the present? Are Double, Valentine, and Marie really traveling outside of the Canopy Kingdom every time they want to go scheme in a busted cathedral? Did they forget it is No Man's Land and just wanted an asset reuse?
This Lorenzo dialogue made me groan:
"You want this family to fall apart?" - in what universe would that line appeal to Dahlia or Eliza? Without the Life Gem, Lorenzo is barking like a cliche mobster.
I have some things to say about the webtoon, but one of the good things about it is that we're getting some answers to a lot of unanswered/hinted at things in the SG world.I guess it would work on Cerebella but yeah Dahlia would laugh it off and Eliza would be like wtf
Since no one else has posted it so:
Next Fast Pass episode is confirmed to be the last chapter in "Season 1" of the Webtoon (a lot of SG Season 1s ending lately huh). While the Webtoon isn't my favourite thing in the world, more SG lore is always welcome so if you care about lore as well do help to read and like the chapters and spread the words to you friends, so we could get a Season 2.
To be fair, I think what Cell is saying is that Mike Exner the writer isn't a long-time fan or follower and he was contracted and came in to learn about a huge amount of the character lore in a short amount of time. For the most part he did a decent job of grasping most of the character relationships and personalities, but in Dahlia's case he didn't get it quite right, which can be understandable from his perspective since Dahlia had had a very small role prior to her story's release.
That's a very good point! I don't Mike Ex is a bad guy or anything, and he seems like he really enjoys doing the comic, but it's clear there should have been a bit more oversight on the script to nail out any mistakes. The webcomic isn't terrible by any means, it just needs to be pushed in the right directions.To be fair, I think what Cell is saying is that Mike Exner the writer isn't a long-time fan or follower and he was contracted and came in to learn about a huge amount of the character lore in a short amount of time. For the most part he did a decent job of grasping most of the character relationships and personalities, but in Dahlia's case he didn't get it quite right, which can be understandable from his perspective since Dahlia had had a very small role prior to her story's release.
But yeah, I think this could have been improved if there were better editorial efforts on the script before they were finalised. I think the devs especially on the lore side probably got a lot of things on their hands (in SG development tradition, devs who are in charge of the lore are also probably doing a lot of other different things lol), so, again, understandable, but I think it's a piece of constructive criticism that they could take into account for future Webtoon episodes, if we get them, or SG lore contents in general.
My biggest issue with Brain Drain's characterisation here is that it doesn't seem to fit the bigger picture at all. He is extremely arrogant and petty, yes, and we know that both he and Valentine look down on Lab 8 members as being to weak because they are bound by morals, but there is no reason he would have intentionally sent the Skullgirl after Lab 8. Especially if, as Dahlia's story hints, he could be the founder of the Labs, Dr. Victor Geiger. If he wanted to get rid of Dr. Avian, he could have just... fired him?Episode 23 was pretty good. Big Band was big (that car is way over weight capacity) and Brain Drain was a creep as expected. Ms. Fortune learning to adjust to her revenant body was interesting. A lot of "it's magic!" hand waving especially if one knows the mechanics of muscles or how speech is created (in short, Nadia shouldn't be able to talk when the head is disconnected from the torso).
It is confirmed that the SG universe does have holidays that are the same as ours, just in different contexts, which is why the Last Hope are codenamed after them.In our world, it is sometimes traditional to get a family photo with everyone wearing Christmas sweaters. At Valentine's desk there is something similar with Last Hope ninja-nurses wearing some kind of Trinity holiday sweaters. Just reminds me how Last Hope members are named for our world holidays that may or may not exist in the Skullgirls world.
Yeah that is also a very weird one lol. I'm not sure where the writer got that Fortune didn't know Minette previously. She's a resident of Little Innsmouth and at least must have been to Yu-Wan's restaurant before.
Yeah, Vitale plotting for the Gem to be stolen so he could re-steal it would have been an interesting idea. However; I think based on what we see so far, it's probably more likely that he just took advantage of the situation that the Fishbone Gang stole the Gem, probably in the same way that he didn't plan to kill Marcus either. It seems to me like he's a good reactive thinker and quick to take action, but he's not proactive in his long-term planning and he's not as smart as Marcus was implied to be.
- I hoped the Webtoon would explore Vitale's fratricidal motives, but they seem as opaque as ever. Not clear what he's up to. It would be nice if there was more sabotage to play up the "takeover the Medici coup" angle. Like he should have been the one to leak Life Gem intel to the Fishbone Gang (instead of them accidentally and impossibly looking into the balcony window of a skyscraper too high above them) or paid Black Dahlia to botch the retrieval. Multiple plans to eliminate his father and because he's paranoid or hateful, make up a reason to kill his brother.