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Shin Megami Tensei and Persona

You say unecessary but the new female and new endings add more content to the game. None of the old content was removed in favor of the new stuff and without getting into spoilers, Alex is actually a good edition that actually fits and provides solid reasons to add in the new endings.
 
SanoBaron said:
and there's the elitism again.
SanoBaron said:
None of the old content was removed
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those characters arent being removed, the art is being updated.
thats not the same thing.
plus, considering the areas got a new color palette, the art would need an update anyway so you dont have characters who were designed for a more muted color scheme to clash against the more vibrant one.

I'm referring to the new good ending content not removing the original endings.
like, everybody kept saying "Alex shouldnt be able to be here without a suit" and yet they give an explanation on why she can exist in that area without a suit.

every other big SMT fan I've ever talked to about this says its very faithful to the original and loves it. hell, they even animated the sprites of the demons so you don't just have to stare at still images of your party while attacks are going on.
 
SanoBaron said:
those characters arent being removed, the art is being updated.
Downgraded, you mean.
SanoBaron said:
everybody kept saying "Alex shouldnt be able to be here without a suit" and yet they give an explanation on why she can exist in that area without a suit.
"Everybody"? All your arguments for the game, since the beginning even have just been "you all are elitist for having any doubts about this remake". Cited
In fact the only things I've said about this are
  • New art for the characters is a clear downgrade since it looks pretty similar to sprite smoothing
  • Maniax was cool, maybe this will be too
  • I'm not entirely sure why they're remaking SJ since it was on the DS and was great then, if there was some sort of system overhaul like making it press turn that would definitely make sense, and be cool
  • They altered the Law ending to make it less Law, therefore worse
  • The Jack Bros. Metroidvania thing was fucking awesome and should be a full game
  • The theme of the story was pretty spelled out for you in the original, the new "I'm totally not related to Lucifer or something stupid like that" chick just yelling it at you in the trailers is over the top
  • I think Doi's new demons for the most part are trash
  • I think Doi's new Amon looks cool
  • Glad to see some of my favorite demons are being added
But you can keep arguing with me about things I've never said.
SanoBaron said:
not removing the original endings.
They did alter at least one of them though, for the worse.
SanoBaron said:
every other big SMT fan I've ever talked to about this says its very faithful to the original and loves it.
I'm not even sure what to take away from that since it provides no information beyond "I talked to a guy and they said it was cool".

I've never said the game was bad in fact, most of my posts were cautious optimism, new art for characters suck or "new character art sucks but [cautious optimism]". I haven't even played it yet so there is no way I'd say that it's bad, it's probably good, it's fucking SJ. At worst they made it looks somewhat worse, added demons I like, added demons I don't like, added side content that may or may not be quality, I have no idea.

You really do like to throw the words "elitist" and "elitism" around whenever someone doesn't share your opinion, or even just seems to not share your opinion, and I find it rather baffling, you usually seem like a cool enough person when Megaten is not the discussion topic.
 
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I will admit I am a bit hard on everybody here for the dedication they have to Kaneko, but you guys gotta admit it can become a bit of a broken record.

from all the reviews I have seen from it, both from people who played the first Strange Journey and newcomers, the game is being very positively received.

and as for the law ending changes, the actual original ending is pretty much the same, just with some updated visuals.

and i will admit I do get pissy when it comes to Megaten but the conversations always devolve into "the art is bad because so-and-so is or isn't doing it" whenever I or anybody else brings up any game in the franchise, not to say you are part of that Aden.
 
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BeatNinja said:
today on 'this is in fact not the Onion' Yukiko's voice actress has a Youtube channel dedicated to weed

 
BeatNinja said:
And what is it with rereleases of SMT/Persona games shoehorning unnecessary females into their plots.

Waifu factor to drum up sales, it's why Marie exists.. Not that it matters to me. I didn't my time with strange journey getting all 3 route endings and I'm not doing it again just to get a revamp.

And the best Strange Journey Waifu will always be Arthur. Gore is second place and Doppelganger my personal third.
 
I wonder if we'll hear Laura Bailey voice FeMC and Rise again and at each other?
 
KZN02 said:
I wonder if we'll hear Laura Bailey voice FeMC and Rise again and at each other?
Laura Bailey is raising a newborn atm
they'll probably get Burch back for Rise and Alexis Tipton for Hamuko
 
I'm a fan of the Etrian Odyssey series but I never took the plunge into PersonaQ. Was it any good? I've heard conflicting things about it, mostly saying it's incredibly easy and persona junctioning or something wasn't really balanced that well.
 
PaperBag_Sniper said:
I'm a fan of the Etrian Odyssey series but I never took the plunge into PersonaQ. Was it any good? I've heard conflicting things about it, mostly saying it's incredibly easy and persona junctioning or something wasn't really balanced that well.
it's pretty easy to bust and Aigis just breaks the game over her knee generally
Naoto is also pretty ridic thanks to IK magic being good, Binds being godly, and sub-personas being able to cover her weaknesses
 
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Ruin said:
it's pretty easy to bust and Aigis just breaks the game over her knee generally
Naoto is also pretty ridic thanks to IK magic being good, Binds being godly, and sub-personas being able to cover her weaknesses
Wasn’t Naoto super fast, too, meaning that she could almost always get the first strike?

Also, Aigis can hit the stat cap for strength via normal leveling, which no other character can do with any other stat. That says it all, imo.
 
With Majin Tensei 2 being mostly done elsewhere, don´t expect any further Megami Tensei work out of AGTP. No updated patch for SMT1, no back-porting of if...´s work into SMT2, no Majin Tensei 1. I´m done. To those who were looking forward to the aforementioned, I truly apologize. Maybe focus on cleaning up your community.

1 - What the hell?
2 - How does one "clean" a community?

For all i remember, the closest of "hate" i've ever seen about it was "if..." becoming a Duke Nuken Forever kind of joke because it was getting near 10 years with only teasers leading nowhere.

Anyone got "proof" of this "hate" he received and how it's officially something of the "community" (whatever that means)?
 
It's odd he also refused to acknowledge that SMT 1 already got multiple patches from other groups with Orden's being the current gold standard. But I got nothing on the "hate" he received other than people asking when 'If...' was going to come out for years. The biggest problem the MT community has is the mainline vs Persona divide. And the divide between old atlus and nu-Atlus.
 
The mobile game can now proudly bear this sticker on its app page.
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Developer interview from 1992 got translated on Shmuplations.
http://shmuplations.com/smt/
Some interesting things like the staff basing demon fusion being derived from Go Nagai's devilman.
 

A teaser for P5R, a new character....and a girl who doesnt like the phantom thieves?
 
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Did I just see Makoto channel her inner Kenshiro? Already a day one purchase. Plus more new tracks from Shoji is a welcome.
 
No one can escape from crossing fate
 
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Hyrule Warriors, Fire Emblem Warriors, now this? I almost expect Super Mario Warriors next.
 
Meh, I'm used to waiting and Persona fans getting yet another waifu boosted update that everyone is going to pay $60 for just means more money for mainline whenever they get around to it.
 
Rise, my children. Atlus finally remembered SMT exists!

 
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