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I think Minion Toss/Big Gay Army just needs more options
like Bronto Burts and Cappies and Bandanna Dee (as the 9)
maybe even Scarfies
 
Yeah, even though I'm also pretty certain it's a Punch-Out!! stage (whether Mac is playable regardless) but it also covers the Dedede fights.

I hope the ropes can be bounced off of. Like, you know how when the spring item in Brawl is sideways? Like that but stationary. It kills any competitiveness which gives me sustenance in the form of MLG tears but would make for a super fun experience.

Speaking of, Brawl had some stupid items. Like, honestly.

Gooey Bomb, Cracker Launcher, Smoke Ball, Team Healer and the Bumper were all generic items that should honestly have been at least been based on other franchises. The bumper was a little understandable, cause it had the Smash logo on it and appealed to the pinball-like nature of the fighting, but the rest were inexcusable.

I wonder if Sakurai will try to do some of the things he did with Bowser with Dedede (Besides masked final smash)

I don't think Giga Bowser will be his Final Smash again. It totally clashes with the tone, unlike in Brawl where it fit really well. I'm hoping we get him growing big like Bowser's Inside Story, or riding his Swag-Wagon from 3D World.
 
Jesus christ, can we stop calling it the big gay dance? I mean for fuck's sake, does that really sound like a good name? "Big gay dance"?
Damn you kirbopher, you always make bad jokes and then everyone repeats them endlessly!

I hope the ropes can be bounced off of. Like, you know how when the spring item in Brawl is sideways? Like that but stationary. It kills any competitiveness which gives me sustenance in the form of MLG tears but would make for a super fun experience.
Pretty sure they already veto stages that aren't floating islands anyway.
 
Jesus christ, can we stop calling it the big gay dance?

I actually have no idea what it's actually called so

I actually really hope Ganondorf keeps his Dark Beast: Ganon Final Smash.
Because that was fucking awesome.
If he returns that is

While it really was, it would be neat to see Link to the Past Ganon, with the trident and everything, in HD.
 
I can confirm that the official name is "Big Gay Dance"
King Dedede and his army spread the gay throughout the stage mercilessly

the homosexual steamroller cannot be stopped
 
I can confirm that the official name is "Big Gay Dance"
King Dedede and his army spread the gay throughout the stage mercilessly

the homosexual steamroller cannot be stopped
DAMMIT RUIN
 
I thought that too, and I really regret it.

Like, actually.

I was eating chocolate donuts when I saw and I damn near threw up, agggh
 
King Dedede Drooling While Eating

that is all

don't google that
I don't know what's worse.

That people actually think about that.

The fact that somebody drew that.

The fact that somebody stole that to sell on Sears.com.

The fact that that was successfully sold on Sears.com.

The fact somebody bought that from Sears.com.

How I decided to google that.

Or how I've seen worse than that.

*deletes internet history*
 
I'm not searching for that.

But yeah, I'd rather have Dark Beast Ganon, because it was so good and cool
The roar stunned people, then everyone in the path had their shit wrecked.
I'd rather have that then another Transformation super
 
What has this thread come to

Sakurai this is YOUR FAULT

YOU MADE THIS HAPPEN WHEN YOU TOOK YOUR LITTLE BREAK

AND YOU KNOW WHAT BREAKED THE MOST?

OUR SANITY

jk this is my favorite thread ever I love all of you
 
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And really, in all honesty.
I'm fairly certain Ganondorf will get a new moveset.
Or LOTS of changes.
Because Sakurai does appear to be making the movesets more faithful.
...at least in some points.
Still kinda miffed Toon Link hasn't whipped out the Deku Leaf yet.
 
WHY DO YOU KNOW ABOUT DEDEDE DROOLING WHILE EATING

Well... it's a long story, so I'll spoiler it.
My father was a priest named John, which means "God Is Gracious," despite him being anything but. At the age of 26, he begot me with a 14 year old prostitute from Japan named only "Black Kiko". Her true name, to this day, is a mystery to our entire family.
I know nothing of my life before 6, as I was but a wee lad living a normal life, but at the age of 7, everything changed.
My father, now a womanizing alcoholic, decided to kill my mother. Why? Well, he was a priest, as you know, and for a priest to be the husband of a 14 year old Japanese prostitute would be a rather… interesting career choice. So, my mentally-unstable father and I lived together for but a couple weeks before he started the chain of events that changed my life.

It was May 26th, I remember it like it was but a day ago. He came up to me, his large, bulbous nose jiggling as he heartily laughed at me, but no, these laughs were not out of joy, but of disdain. He hated he, he blamed me for everything. That day, I broke one of his favourite Red Merlot bottles that rested on top of the fridge. He told me that children like I should be banished. I told him he wouldn't dare.

That night, I was sent on a train to Berlin, Belgium, a small town, poseur-ish in nature. With a population of 75, I should have known everyone. Sadly, this town was full of nothing but snobby artisans, people who had no time for a homeless, broke 7 year old. However, one day, a stranger drifted into town that was the golden link in my chain of life.

This man was large, and incredibly hairy. His beard was a rats nest, and his body could have been mistaken for a member of the Sasquatch species in hiding. While I was resting in my cardboard box one night, watching the rats eat the lining of my shoes, he approached me. He muttered, in his husky voice with a thick Russian accent, "Have you heard the news?"
"No," I replied "I am but a homeless child, sir. I can't afford the newspaper."
His eyes turned dark. His body vibrated, like he was filled with anger! What did he do?
He removed his pants. Hanging before me was his scrotum.

And that was it. He stood there, bollocks hanging, and just… waited. His scrotum was, however, a thing of beauty. It was freshly waxed, and let off a warm glow, a reflection of the moonlight.
Every night afterwards, he would do the same thing. In the winter, his scrotum-light gave me warmth. He never did anything different, he'd just ask me for the news and remove his trousers.
His name was 'Bear Hugger'.
Every day for 5 years. Every night, standing there, giving me warmth, light… and hope.
As for food, you may be wondering, I ate snow and leftover remains of the skin that shed off of his scrotum.

But, one day, when I was 12, something changed. He came to me, and asked me for the news as usual. I asked "Is it your scrotum, Bear Hugger?"
A sad look came across his face. His eyes, no longer black with anger, were solemn and sincere.
"My son," His voice was no longer Russian, but proper British.
"My name is Bear Hugger. That, you know. But what you don't know is that I am actually a Millionaire. I decided to find an heir, as I cannot bear children with my Genetically-Modified Glowing Scrotum. You were the only child to gaze upon my scrotum and not do anything to it. You fulfilled my life's purpose… to use my scrotum as a tool of justice.
Sadly, I am ending my life today, as the Government of Latveria has put out a warrant for me. The Doombots will get me. I leave my entire fortune, my summer home, and my giant transforming robot to you."
"…"
I was silent.
He then took out a pocket flamethrower from his back pocket.
"End me, please." He said, closing his eyes.
I took it from him, and lit him ablaze. His entire body ended in a flash of light. Nothing but ashes and a hunting knife remained.
To pay tribute to the fallen Soldier, I took the knife and shoved it into my upper right thigh. I plunged it in and removed a VHS sized chunk of flesh from my leg. It was so cold that no pain came to me. I took the ashes and put it into my leg cavity. Beside me was a dead rat, which I shaved with a bone from a chicken thrown out and twined into a rope which I sewed the meat back in with using the bone as the needle.
On his knife was an inscription. "The largest house in Prague. The Bear Hugger House".
And so I began the walk.
900 km across a European landscape wasn't hard. I slept in various barns, empty houses and Tauntaun corpses that I used the knife, now my best and only friend, to cut open and sleep in. For food, I ate various animals, small children and leftover garbage from the Neo-Nazi Seahorses that patrol the coastlines.

Eventually, I came upon Prague. I'd never seen a big city before, so the lights startled me the first time I saw them. In the center of town was a mountain, huge and majestic, and at its peak, the biggest house I've ever seen.

My house.

As I opened the door, I was greeted by an army of robotic maids and butlers. The maids were dressed like traditional Japanese girls, but with huge eyes. I had seen something like them in my travels… I snuck into a house of a middle aged man who never left his basement. He was watching something… what did he call it? I think it was a …. "Hentai"? Something like that. Strange man he was. His days consisted of playing a television entertainment system he called "CoD" and watching colorful ponies prance around and sing songs, as he referred to himself as a "brony". Strange, strange fellow.

The male butlers all had a nameplate that read "Ricky Gervais" on it. I never understood the title… maybe it was Bear Hugger's true name?

That night, the RickyGervais-Bot asked me what I wanted to eat. For once, I had a choice as to what I could ingest, however, I couldn't bear the thought of leaving my old life style so immediately. So I ordered Scrotum-Shavings and Snow, along with a cup of rat urine to drink. It was the best meal I ever had.

For the next couple months, nothing happened. I discovered a box, similar to the one the middle-aged man played. I turned it on, and discovered it can show me images from anywhere I want. Not only that, I could put in disks and play them whenever I want! Bear Hugger left me a collection of disks labelled as "The Twilight Saga". It was rather boring, and very unrealistic.
In the garage was a giant robot. It was pure red, and had a pair of sunglasses on its front. It could fly, and used drills to drill things. I called it "Gurren Laggan," as my cat jumped on the keyboard of my computer as I was writing the bumper sticker for it. I liked it.

For a year, I watched the movies, rode Laggan, and… that was it. Until one day, the door bell rang. One of my robot maids named Mitsuki answered it. Nobody had rung it before, as nobody really cared about us. At the door was a man in a priests robe, tattered, and had a Chihuahua humping his leg. It was … daddy!
"Can I have some money?" he asked.
"No." I replied, and slammed the door.

Every day for the next 5 years, he would come and beg for money. Eventually, he stopped walking away, and just stood there in perpetual begging. He finally died of hunger. I felt no remorse whatsoever, as I did to him what he did to me. It was justice, just like Bear Hugger's scrotum.
I took out Gurren Laggan and fried father's body into ashes. I decided to put them next to Bear Hugger's remains in my thigh. I didn't know why, as he didn't love me, but… I felt like I should. Put him beside the person who was more of my father than he was, as a way of showing him the man he could have been.

Weeks passed, nothing happened. I discovered a new set of disks in the backboard of my huge bed. These videos, entitled "Big Butt Booty Basher's 7" was… interesting, to say the least. They had no plot, just lots of naked wrestling. They brought tears to my eyes, reminding me of Bear Hugger…

One day, however, I was awoken by a familiar noise… a noise that was the last memory of my father. The door bell… the sound of a nostalgic hatred.
Upon opening the door, I gasped, as for a second I swore it was Bear Hugger … but nay, it was a woman, as a large pair of breasts were shoved into my face right after I let out said gasp. She looked exactly like Bear Hugger, the beard, the hairy arms and legs, except for the fact that she wore a red, striped dress and carried a purse.
It was… a hug. A warm, hairy embrace by a woman with a beard. A hug that felt… pure. Real. Like family.
"Son…" she sounded dear and kind, yet gruff. Like David Hayter on helium. "The name of Bear Hugger is only a title passed on through the lineage of our family. As such, you should be the new one… however, you have yet to do something to prove yourself. One thing… do you choose to accept it?"
She held out a pill in either giant man hand. A blue pill and a red pill.
"This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill – you get knocked out, and I give you a mission. Which do you chose?"
My life at this point was pretty boring. Nothing but watching those DVD's, walking around the house, sleeping and eating scrotum shavings. To be honest, it was really boring. I needed a vacation, I craved something new.
So I took the Red Pill. And everything went dark.


Cold… so much cold…. everything around me, cold. My eye lids were frozen shut… my hands were stiff and felt as if there were just mere wooden copies. My legs were gone… not really, but they felt so. As I used my frozen, bony fingers to pry my eye lids apart, all I saw was white… and a sign amidst it. It read… "Welcome to Canmore, Alberta".

As I woke up, I noticed I was stark naked. Nothing on me… or so it seemed. I found taped to my back a note, written in cursive. It said
"To become a Bear Hugger, you must do so. Find a bear, and hug it. Once you are covered in the fur of the Almighty Almighter, you may become Bear Hugger yourself."
And so off I went.


The world she left me in was dark, cold, wet and white. Surrounding me were trees, tall, green, and hard, much like Bear Hugger's knob. It was kinda sad, seeing all of them alone, much like me, but I persevered in my looking for a bear.
Miles and miles I walked, and nothing but trees and the occasional Brent Butt. I slept in a cave for the night, as I was tired, my feet were calloused and worn, and penis being bitten by a wild Ryan Nugent-Hopkins. It hurt, so I brushed him off. I found a rock to sleep on, and I fell and slumbered.
When I woke up, I saw I wasn't sleeping on a rock, but rather a bear's armor!
"Young one… why do you not wear armor?" muttered the bear inside said armor. He was brown, and had large ears and eyes.
"You see sir," I told him, "I have a mission. Its to…"
I hesitated, as I did now know if it were to offend him or not.
"Spit it out boy. A strong tongue is a mark of a great man… or lover." He smirked.

"I need to hug a bear."

"I see. … now, lets get down to this quickly then."
He stood on his hind paws, his large Magitek armor whirring and glowing. He held out his paws…
And then we collided. His warm fur covered me in heartwarming embrace, his heart against my face, the beating of it making my face flustered and warm. We hugged, tighter and tighter, and tighter… until II hugged to strong. Unbeknownst to me at the time, I killed him. I broke his back, armor and all. But that didn't stop me. I hugged that corpse until it the sun went down and came up again. When I finally let go… I realized he was cold and stopped moving.
Sadness overcame me… not due to his death, but due to the fact that I had nothing to burn him into ashes and place him into my personal memory thigh with. Instead, I grabbed my knife, which I had shoved up my buttocks ever since I got it, and cut slices of his fur off. I made a patchwork pair of pants, shirt and hat. I descended the mountainous mountain area to an awaiting helicopter with Bear Hugger's mother sitting inside, bag and fur in tow. I was still a mile away, but I could hear her booming voice.
"How did it go?" she asked me, obviously not in vision.
"…"
"Is… is that… it looks like my …. son?"
I walked into view, and I saw her taken aback.
As I walked up to her helicopter, I had one thing on my mind. One phrase that was given to me as a child which shaped me into the man I am today. I asked her…
"Have you heard the news?"

The helicopter ride back was a silent one. She was ecstatic but silent. I was sad, to be honest. The bear, whom I decided to name Dan, won't be forgotten for a long, long time. Finally, right above my house, she told me something.
"Don't Google King Dedede Drooling While Eating. For your sanity... and the lineage of the title."
I didn't heed her words. Curiosity arose out of me, came to life, and forced me to type it in. What I saw scarred me, forever. From seeing it, I felt something die, inside of me. The thing that died... was Bear Hugger. The title lost, I lost the deed to the home, and my lifestyle with it. All because of that picture...
Curse you, Dedede.
Curse you, Sakurai.
 
AND YOU KNOW WHAT BREAKED THE MOST?

OUR SANITY
I'm sorry, but my time on this planet has come to an end.

I must say though, don't be discouraged by Dedede, there's much worse that you could encounter.

Seriously, my friends decided to look up pictures with One Piece's Nami and Airplanes. Those images still haven't left.

Always fight the mental battle, for I will be with you, in spirit.

*fades into nothingness*
 
Oh yeah, Sakurai probably wants him more balanced than any other character. Maybe make all of his non-up B moves shorter to prevent abuse of them. Or maybe longer move delay?
 
maybe not change meta knight and make everyone else meta knight tier
 
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maybe not change meta knight and make everyone else meta knight tier
Yeah, I thought that too, but some characters felt like they can't be changed enough for that, or they haven't changed enough already. Though it is Sakurai, who knows.
 
I'm just hoping Sakurai won't remove Meta Knight because of all the complaints about him.
But then again, this is the same person who put tripping into Brawl to troll competive players.
So I wouldn't put it past him to keep Meta Knight in there.
 
TROPHIES RETURN!
Today's picture is Saria's Trophy.
Plus this delicious bit of info
""Happy New Year! Pic of the day. There will be trophies in the 3ds and Wii U games and each version will boast different types and models. The 3ds Trophies will be mainly from handhelds, and the Wii U version will feeature trophies from home-console games""

This is basically porn for collectionists like me.
 
I never really saw why Meta KNight was so OP. But that Mach Tornado could stand to be shorter.
Mach Tornado not beating everything, slowing down some of his air normals, reducing his recover ability a bit, and make it so his moves don't all have transcendent priority.

That ought to do it.
 
YUSH TROPHIES

Let's hope there's a nicer spread than in Brawl though. A lot of Pokemon and Animal Crossing trophies, but almost no Mother and Wario ones. It was kinda jarring.

I'm noticing how much Sakurai is pushing the Console on Console, Handheld on Handheld thing, but I think the word people are missing is MOSTLY. There won't NOT be a Kid Icarus stage on console or a Wii Fit stage on 3DS. Every character needs a home stage (though ROB in Brawl and the FE characters in Melee are weird exceptions) so they won't just be completely forgotten because they're more console/handheld based.

You know it's 6 in the morning and I'm not sure that's a coherent sentence above this
 
Something other than the main fighting game being showcased here? About time. Now I only hope for Stage Builder and My Music to return.
 
Kersti confirmed.
 
someone mind posting the image?
The site is still on a zelda image for me
 
3pu9.jpg
 
someone mind posting the image?
The site is still on a zelda image for me
If you got either a 3DS or Wii U you can just head onto Miiverse. If you either follow Sakurai or look at the Smash 4 dev room community you can see it.
 
I'm not sure if I want another minigame to get them. Hopefully there's some form of Adventure Mode where you can find them.

I do want the achievement wall Sakurai loves so much back.
 
But when's Wonder Red
 
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